So Who Else Doesn't do the Flesh Thing

[Stumbleweed]

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Heh, well it's sarcasm, but he basically said that we're "created" to eat meat and that cows were "created" to be eaten by humans, which I think is funny. But yeah, no religion tangent -- we don't want this thread shut down for some BS.

Try that papa al pomodoro recipe, carrabba -- you should enjoy it, especially in the winter time.

[stewaat]

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Here's what I ate today:

6 eggs
7 links of sausage
1 lb of ground beef
4 oz cheese

Eating meat is so great for your body! You can use their fat as your source of fuel! How awesome is that!

eat fat to be slim

[Cletus]

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I subscribe to the Maddox motto: For every animal you don't eat, I'll eat 3.


Best of luck, I was a vegetarian for 3 days, General Tso's chicken was awesome that 4th day.

[Bornindamecca]

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I don't know if this is sarcasm or seriousness, but let's keep the religion talk to a minimum, before the downward spiral starts.

He has a point though. That talk about the intentions of creation is kind of hard to respond to without stepping on sensitive religious toes anyway.

[Chief Illinimac]

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He has a point though. That talk about the intentions of creation is kind of hard to respond to without stepping on sensitive religious toes anyway.

Which is why I'm cutting it off now before it gets out of control and the thread locked.

Although, I would have to say he's not talking about religion. He is just saying it's our animalistic instincts to eat meat. It's part of our nutrition and is natural, thus without the development of societies, it's probably what we'd be eating.

[Double Eights]

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I can understand being a vegetarian because of the possible health benefits (though I think we need meat because we were created to eat meat),

Actually, that is not correct.

The human race used to be dependent on fruits, vegetables, grains, etc.. Meat was usually only had by the wealthy, as it was a very rare treat to be had.

Over time, that changed, and meat became more widely consumed and easier to get. Meat is not a health benefit. Meat is packed full of cholesterol, which clogs your arteries, which leads to deadly consequences like Heart Disease and Heart attacks.

Another example: Having a tan in the old days used to mean you were inferior. It meant you were doing manual labor all the time, and you weren't wealthy. In the past, having very white skin (some even painted their face whiter to greater symbolize their wealth) meant that you were wealthy. It meant that you were not out doing manual labor, and had the money to hire others to do it for you. But now having a tan is the new "hip" thing to have, while very white skin is not "appealing."

Meat used to be a product only consumed by the weathly. If you look back in history, most wealthy people were "plump"...while most of the workers who lived off of grains, vegetables, fruits were thin.

[Chief Illinimac]

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Actually, that is not correct.

The human race used to be dependent on fruits, vegetables, grains, etc.. Meat was usually only had by the wealthy, as it was a very rare treat to be had.

What about before there were economies and it was basically survival of the fittest for human beings?

[Double Eights]

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What about before there were economies and it was basically survival of the fittest for human beings?

Still had vegetables and the like.

Meat has always been a part of the human diet, but it isn't a necessity.

[Cletus]

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people used to also bathe once a week and died from the plague. So things change and we all get smarter, thus we eat meat.

[Chief Illinimac]

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Still had vegetables and the like.

Meat has always been a part of the human diet, but it isn't a necessity.

I'm just saying, I'd bet a lot of humans in the really early times hunted and ate meat. It's a natural thing. Just because a historical period suggests that veggies were more important doesn't mean people don't have the instinct, or natural desire to eat meat.

[Bornindamecca]

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What about before there were economies and it was basically survival of the fittest for human beings?

Interesting query, but we actually weren't very good at survival when we were heavily dependent on hunting. It was only after the spread of the technologies of agriculture that we developed into complex societies. It is the development into these societies which has allowed us to increase our communal survival. Before then, we were as likely to be killed by our dinner as we were to eat it.

There are different levels of survival. Microsurvival, of the individual, and macrosurvival of the species. As a species, it is our agricultural development that has proved most valuable, historically.

[Chief Illinimac]

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Interesting query, but we actually weren't very good at survival when we were heavily dependent on hunting. It was only after the spread of the technologies of agriculture that we developed into complex societies. It is the development into these societies which has allowed us to increase our communal survival. Before then, we were as likely to be killed by our dinner as we were to eat it.

There are different levels of survival. Microsurvival, of the individual, and macrosurvival of the species. As a species, it is our agricultural development that has proved most valuable, historically.

My point is simply that we humans are omnivores, not herbivores.

[Bornindamecca]

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My point is simply that we humans are omnivores, not herbivores.

I think it's more accurate to say that we are adaptive creatures. Within the context of this discussion, calling us omnivores oversimplifies things a little bit, because it could leave open the idea that meat is a necessary part of our diets. Not only isn't it necessary, but its exclusion from our diets can result in improved health under the right circumstances, whereas the ingestion of common meats is usually a detriment to our health.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Heres the problem, Government Corruption.

There is more then enough food to go around.

Well what about in our own nation.

I hope you are doing this to get a girl. There is not ANY other reason period to go veggie, Our teeth were made to chew flesh.

Dude you actually hit it on the head.. a girl was a big part of opening my eyes to different ideas.. but I was very very reluctant to buy into them. Eventually I did start to adopt them into my lifestyle, but I'm proud to say that I chose it on my own.

Anyway, I would hope you at least read the article that was posted, and then you can think whatever you want.

[ESPNdeportes]

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Cattle were made to eat. They are good for nothing else. We must eat them as they were intended to. They are here for us to eat, so why pass them up? They are tasty and if we don't eat them, they will overpopulate, which is not good either.

Just like deer. If it were not for hunters, the deer population would become too much and the dear would start to starve because there would simply not be enough food for all of them.

I think you completely missed the point of what Ex-Carraba is saying as well as the article I posted.