2nd hand smoke causes triggers immediate death

[McLite]

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Smoking should be banned in all public places IMO.

Agreed as well. If you wanna kill yourself do it in private. Why force your uncontrollable habit on others? I voted for the ban...it got passed...so indirectly I am a lawmaker as well.

[BSanders]

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I think they should let Crackheads go into bars where there is a big majority of smokers and let them light up right next to the smokers and I bet you we would be hearing that Crackheads shouldn't be allowed to smoke in public. It's pretty simple your health is yours and you decided to smoke but I see nothing positive that comes from smoking. The problem I have is when I'm eating out or with my kids in a public place and I have smoke cloud in my face, It's no different that a drunk person in your face while you're out, he decided to get drunk on his own but it's f'ing annoying and what's the purpose besides screwing up your health and others that don't smoke. I still haven't understood why people start smoking in the first place, to be cool? I guess it must be a thing like tattoos everyone follows the pack.

[fishepa]

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but I see nothing positive that comes from smoking.

That's because there is nothing positive.

[Herbsinator]

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to blame this on smoking is ridiculous. #1... if you forget your inhaler, that is your fault... #2... If she had asthma since age 2, she shouldn't be working at a smoky bar, nor should she be forgetting her inhaler when going to such places.

You don't choose to have Asthma...this lady shouldn't be limited in what she does because of a condition that she had no control over in getting.


Smoking is a choice....ultimately you choose to get addicted to smoking. It's not fair to other people that you can't have some self-control and you have to feed a habit that is dangerous to EVERYONE in public. To me smoking in public is just as bad as firing a gun in public. If I had it my way...I'd ban cigarettes in general.

[Brandon13]

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You don't choose to have Asthma...this lady shouldn't be limited in what she does because of a condition that she had no control over in getting.


Smoking is a choice....ultimately you choose to get addicted to smoking. It's not fair to other people that you can't have some self-control and you have to feed a habit that is dangerous to EVERYONE in public. To me smoking in public is just as bad as firing a gun in public. If I had it my way...I'd ban cigarettes in general.

They'd probably just become more popular as a result.

[Herbsinator]

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They'd probably just become more popular as a result.

Well, they would become way more expensive. This definitely would make it a lot harder for younger kids to get their hands on cigarettes if their parents don't use them. Most people in general aren't going to use cigarettes if they are illegal just because they don't want to get caught.

[mgoblue]

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You don't choose to have Asthma...this lady shouldn't be limited in what she does because of a condition that she had no control over in getting.

Um, life isn't fair. My grandma was born with epilepsy and therefore couldn't ever drive a car (she could have a seizure while driving and crash). My grandma had no control over getting epilepsy, so should she have been able to drive? Sometimes we have things that limit us...some people with asthma have trouble living in certain cities because of smog. That's life...I agree with the smoking bans for indoors at places, but if somewhere's really smoky then there's a personal responsibility not to put yourself at risk, you know?

Smoking is a choice....ultimately you choose to get addicted to smoking. It's not fair to other people that you can't have some self-control and you have to feed a habit that is dangerous to EVERYONE in public. To me smoking in public is just as bad as firing a gun in public. If I had it my way...I'd ban cigarettes in general.

I'm a former smoker, glad I stopped. Banning something isn't the answer. Haven't people seen the "War on Drugs" and how well banning those do? Tons of people still use illegal drugs. I agree with the restaurant bans and think it's a great idea. I just don't think the government should have the power to ban them completely.

If someone wants to smoke in their home or car, so be it. I personally think it's a bad thing to do and people should quit, but it is more than self-control...it's a physical addiction. It can be tough to get past the physical aspect. Like I said, smoking's dumb and I am glad I stopped, but people like you do have to realize that it's more than just a self-control issue.

I also recommend you stop drinking, if you do, because that's just as horrible for you.

[Brandon13]

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Well, they would become way more expensive. This definitely would make it a lot harder for younger kids to get their hands on cigarettes if their parents don't use them. Most people in general aren't going to use cigarettes if they are illegal just because they don't want to get caught.

That was kind of tongue-in-cheek but still, I don't smoke and have never even tried a cigarette but making them illegal is wrong imo. Once you make cigarettes illegal how do you make a decent argument that alcohol should stay legal?

[snepp]

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You don't choose to have Asthma...this lady shouldn't be limited in what she does because of a condition that she had no control over in getting.

That's the rub, she wasn't that limited. She chose not to take medication on a regular basis and chose to work in that environment knowing her condition and prior history.

Just another case of placing the blame on someone else IMHO, it's par for the course.

[Moses Shuttlesworth]

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It's like this:

You go into school to take a test, and you haven't studied so you aren't prepared at all. You end up failing because you were irresponsible and you didn't make the right decision.

This lady has no one to blame, but herself.
Actually, she isn't even alive so she can't blame anything, lol.

[mgoblue]

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It's like this:

You go into school to take a test, and you haven't studied so you aren't prepared at all. You end up failing because you were irresponsible and you didn't make the right decision.

This lady has no one to blame, but herself.
Actually, she isn't even alive so she can't blame anything, lol.

It's like being super allergic to bees and running right towards a beehive without having your shot on you.

Yes, smoking is bad and I agree with the smoking bans. That being said, if it's not banned then you have to take care of yourself with common sense.

[X*Cell]

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nothing pisses me off more to see adults smoking in the car with small kids in the back seat.

yeah, that's stupid and should not be allowed.

[mgoblue]

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yeah, that's stupid and should not be allowed.

No doubt...that ish is crazy. Hell, I would never smoke in my car if anyone else was in there...i tried not to smoke near people at all, unless it was an obvious smoking area. Especially with the bans, smoking makes you feel like a pariah or something, one of the reasons I was able to quit.

[X*Cell]

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No doubt...that ish is crazy. Hell, I would never smoke in my car if anyone else was in there...i tried not to smoke near people at all, unless it was an obvious smoking area. Especially with the bans, smoking makes you feel like a pariah or something, one of the reasons I was able to quit.

agreed.

I don't smoke cigs. Never bought a pack in my life. I've prolly boned a few here and there, but no matter what, no matter when... if someone among me isn't a smoker, then I don't smoke.

[J0nnD0ugh]

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She made a mistake & forgot her inhaler. So she bares some responsibility for that. I say that as an asthma sufferer who uses an inhaler myself. Also for choosing to work in a place like that.

However, that still doesn't address the issue of 2nd hand smoke in public. None of us should have to worry about going out & being bombarded by toxins. If you choose to do that in the privacy of your home, your choice. But you don't need to bring your nasty filthy habit to me or the public domain.

People said buisnesses should have the right to choose. You know what they are going to choose? Allow smoking. Because they are afraid of the smoker's money going to where they are allowed to puff. & where does that leave us who want to go out & have to deal w/cancer being blown in the air?

Smokers are nothing but drug addicts. I don't want to deal w/people shooting up heroin, see them sniffing up coke & I don't want to smell them smoking tobacco.