What's wrong with young men these days?

[Brandon13]

Re: What's wrong with young men these days?

respecting your elders, well you really don't have to do that but they are dieing and are feeble

Now you're just sounding dumb. If your elders are worthy of respect then you should respect them. Simple as that.

Edit: And I realize there's a decent chance that you're being sarcastic, but I think you're actually being serious.

[callmetaternuts]

Re: What's wrong with young men these days?

respecting your elders, well you really don't have to do that but they are dieing and are feeble so, having a wedding, really no need for that other then the benefits of your relationship becoming law and recognized, putting on clothes, yeah we don't have to but i like my eyes and don't plan on ripping them out, drugs, nothing wrong with them if you get past the whole, they can kill you part, hitting woman, yeah physically assaulting someone is a no brainer, did you know that it actually hurts when someone strikes you with force?

you see legitimate arguments on why these things exist, something that cursing words have none of.

You realize your arguments have no factual basis, no more so than us saying cursing is bad bc many years ago it was decided those words are bad. Some time ago people decided the F bomb was a bad word, probably the same time someone said hitting a woman was bad. No one can trace the roots of any of these things, what you are trying to argue is that you will accept some social norms (i.e. dont hit women, and wear clothes for public decency) but wont accept other (cursing is bad).

But to cater to your argument, please, point out the exact place in time that says we shouldnt hit women, or that we should respect our elders.

[realtalktruth]

Re: What's wrong with young men these days?

Now you're just sounding dumb. If your elders are worthy of respect then you should respect them. Simple as that.

why are elders worthy of respect? in actuality no one is worthy of respect at all but people do it just because. kind of like me, mainly because i want them to respect me as well. this logic does not apply on message boards because when your opinion is different then others respect is the last thing you will get.

You realize your arguments have no factual basis, no more so than us saying cursing is bad bc many years ago it was decided those words are bad. Some time ago people decided the F bomb was a bad word, probably the same time someone said hitting a woman was bad. No one can trace the roots of any of these things, what you are trying to argue is that you will accept some social norms (i.e. dont hit women, and wear clothes for public decency) but wont accept other (cursing is bad).

But to cater to your argument, please, point out the exact place in time that says we shouldnt hit women, or that we should respect our elders.

all i am saying is give me one legitimate reason why those words are cursing words and should be taboo. on a factual basis if you hit a women, or even a man for that matter, you go to jail. if you do not respect your elders they will not respect you as well. if you do not want respect from your elders then this should not be a problem for you. all i am saying is there are legitimate reasons for those types of situations but none whatsoever for why those cursing words are taboo.

[Brandon13]

Re: What's wrong with young men these days?

why are elders worthy of respect? in actuality no one is worthy of respect at all but people do it just because. kind of like me, mainly because i want them to respect me as well. this logic does not apply on message boards because when your opinion is different then others respect is the last thing you will get.

If someone treats you with respect then they are worthy of your respect. That's what I meant by, "If your elders are worthy of respect then you should respect them."

[ThreeKing]

Re: What's wrong with young men these days?

Fish hit it on the head. You are just one of those kids who are going to go against the grain just because.

Good luck with that. Let's see how far you get in life with that attitude.

[realtalktruth]

Re: What's wrong with young men these days?

Fish hit it on the head. You are just one of those kids who are going to go against the grain just because.

Good luck with that. Let's see how far you get in life with that attitude.

you see i find that logic ironic sense in actuality you are following what your parents and society told you "just because". im forming my own opinion about it and basing my decisions on these so called "cursing words". if i don't feel offended by them then why should i pretend?

[callmetaternuts]

Re: What's wrong with young men these days?

why are elders worthy of respect? in actuality no one is worthy of respect at all but people do it just because. kind of like me, mainly because i want them to respect me as well. this logic does not apply on message boards because when your opinion is different then others respect is the last thing you will get.



all i am saying is give me one legitimate reason why those words are cursing words and should be taboo. on a factual basis if you hit a women, or even a man for that matter, you go to jail. if you do not respect your elders they will not respect you as well. if you do not want respect from your elders then this should not be a problem for you. all i am saying is there are legitimate reasons for those types of situations but none whatsoever for why those cursing words are taboo.

What reasons are there? You arent pointing any out. You go to jail, but why? Why is that a law? Its the same with free speech, its free speech until it infringes on the basic human rights of another person. You respect your elders as part of a cultural and social norm, you dont hit women bc there is a law against it, but that is based on social norms here. Everything we say and do right now is based off something centuries ago. I can make an argument against any of this just like you can.

Lets just agree to disagree

[Double Eights]

Re: What's wrong with young men these days?

you see i find that logic ironic sense in actuality you are following what your parents and society told you "just because". im forming my own opinion about it and basing my decisions on these so called "cursing words". if i don't feel offended by them then why should i pretend?

I rarely agree with you, but I will have to agree with you on this topic.

I am sick and tired of "group think," where we all go about our days believing in the census reality. I question everything, and I form my own viewpoints. Going against the grain isn't always a bad thing.

If you dislike cursing, that's your prerogative; however, I believe in Freedom of Speech, so I believe in the freedom to say whatever the hell you want to say (as long as it doesn't endanger lives, ie: yelling FIRE in a crowded area).

"If you aren't insulted by something that someone says at least 25 times a day, there is no such thing as freedom of speech." I forgot who said that (quoting is probably off a bit), but it pretty much sums it up.

[Brandon13]

Re: What's wrong with young men these days?

I rarely agree with you, but I will have to agree with you on this topic.

I am sick and tired of "group think," where we all go about our days believing in the census reality. I question everything, and I form my own viewpoints. Going against the grain isn't always a bad thing.

If you dislike cursing, that's your prerogative; however, I believe in Freedom of Speech, so I believe in the freedom to say whatever the hell you want to say (as long as it doesn't endanger lives, ie: yelling FIRE in a crowded area).

I swear (no pun intended) it was you arguing against legalizing marijuana in a thread awhile back because "if the government made it illegal then there was a good reason for it," or something to that effect. Maybe I'm wrong but I think it was you.

"If you aren't insulted by something that someone says at least 25 times a day, there is no such thing as freedom of speech." I forgot who said that (quoting is probably off a bit), but it pretty much sums it up.

That sounds like something Carlin would say.

[P2K]

Re: What's wrong with young men these days?

you see i find that logic ironic sense in actuality you are following what your parents and society told you "just because". im forming my own opinion about it and basing my decisions on these so called "cursing words". if i don't feel offended by them then why should i pretend?

**** what society tells you. Just go by what you think is right or wrong.

But if you have a kid and you think it is quite alright to kick the **** out of it because society says it's wrong, then let me know where you live right now so I can wipe you off the planet.

[Brian Gee]

Re: What's wrong with young men these days?

Freedom of Speech doesn't even apply to this argument. Nobody has stated that cursing should be met with a fine or anything. What people are saying is that the overuse of it/public use of it/whatever use of it is a sign of low class and/or stupidity. I think these people are right. My high schoolers curse in their sentences almost as a filler between thoughts....it's sad.

IMO, acceptable cursing is for situations like "BLEEP! Giants blew a 21 point lead to Jacksonville!" or "BLEEP! I just totaled my new car!"

The other day I was at the mall and a woman was with her kid and said, "Oh ****! I was wondering where the **** Mandee's was!"

[P2K]

Re: What's wrong with young men these days?

I mean you can't expect a 4 or 5 year old to know and understand right from wrong. It's up to the parents to explain and enforce boundries and rules. There are times to let kids learn things on their own, but if you don't teach a kid to say please and thank you or have him open a door for an elderly person, how is he going to learn?

There are 4-5 year olds that are stealing, beating other kids up and worse. And they got it from nowhere but their own minds.

I didn't have to have my moms stress to me to say thank you or open doors. I did that stuff naturally. Because I felt it was the right or nice thing to do.

[Double Eights]

Re: What's wrong with young men these days?

I swear (no pun intended) it was you arguing against legalizing marijuana in a thread awhile back because "if the government made it illegal then there was a good reason for it," or something to that effect. Maybe I'm wrong but I think it was you.

That sounds like something Carlin would say.

Carlin is my hero; I agree with basically every viewpoint he has. I wouldn't be surprised if the quote was his, I just can't remember where I heard it.

I don't think I've ever rooted against legalizing marijuana, in fact, I don't know if I've ever talked about it on OS. I could be wrong though; I don't remember everything I say. I will say though that I am 100% in support of legalizing marijuana, as well as the majority of drugs (for various reasons, but that's a topic for another thread).

[Double Eights]

Re: What's wrong with young men these days?

Also, I try not to swear in public, as I do try to not offend those around me. Sometimes I slip up, but it's not like I go around screaming curse words all day long.

I honestly don't care what you say, as long as you aren't in my face screaming at me. If I hear an F-Bomb drop, so be it, it's part of life. I'm not going to get all upset and throw a tantrum....or come on an internet forum and complain about it.:wink:

[Brian Gee]

Re: What's wrong with young men these days?

Oh and two places where I think my stance changes on this subject are bars and sporting events. It may be hypocrytical, but it's part of both.