How (in)significent are we?

[superjames1992]

Re: How (in)significent are we?

this just proves that their HAS to be life somewhere else

No, it doesn't. The heavens could be out there simply for our enjoyment and pleasure. Maybe we will inhabit them one day, though I don't think so in the next hundred years or so at least. We were stupid and would not keep up funding for more moon missions. Otherwise, we could have had a moon base or something like that by now. The fact that we have not been to the moon since December of 1972 really sucks. Just think of what we could have done if we kept on going. Now, at the very best, we won't be back to the moon for 10 or so years, and I really don't know if we will go to Mars in the near future being that there is a 20% failure rate on Mars missions. I could see the Chinese or maybe the Russians doing it since they don't value life like we do, but there is no way NASA would except a 20% failure rate.

Besides, I don't really think there is a way to surpass the speed of light unless we can find a way to use wormholes or something of that nature. It would take four years to get to the nearest star, Alpha Centari, and there is nothing there. It would take hundreds, thousands, millions, billions, ect... years to get to other stars out there and who knows how big the universe is. We'll never go there, anyways, so it really is not significant.

The truth is that, even if aliens exists, we probably won't ever see them being how vast space is. The aliens would probably have to travel hundreds or thousands of years to reach us and I don't think they would go through all that trouble to do that. Besides, why are they always considered the superior race? We could be far superior to them. They could be cavemen!

Now, I don't believe in aliens personally, but there is no way to disprove their existence just as there is no way to prove their existence. It's a guessing game since there really is no evidence either way other than the fact that we have never discovered any aliens. And the truth is, it probably doesn't matter as there is almost no chance that we would ever meet them anyways.
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[Cebby]

Re: How (in)significent are we?

We were stupid and would not keep up funding for more moon missions. Otherwise, we could have had a moon base or something like that by now. The fact that we have not been to the moon since December of 1972 really sucks. Just think of what we could have done if we kept on going.

Nothing. There is nothing to be gained from going to the damn moon. Huge waste of money.

I could see the Chinese or maybe the Russians doing it

You way overestimate the "evil communist" factor. Going into space costs a **** load of money, and going to Mars would probably cost more money than Russia even has. The "human cost" is a joke. No country cares about the people, but pumping in trillions just to say you put a man on Mars doesn't do ****. Why do that when you can spend that money on a missile defense system and tracking submarines and having the ability to shoot dudes with lasers from outer space.

The only thing we need to be wasting money on in space is putting some nuclear weapons and maybe a high velocity rail gun or something. We need to focus on the annihilation of the people on our world before we start worrying about exterminating the Martians.

[QuasiHero]

Re: How (in)significent are we?

what an immense universe we live in, but what a unique place called Earth that we live on. Earth is uniquely different. Check out the following videos:

the 3.5 minute version:

http://www.illustramedia.com/movies/TPP_preview_256k.wmv

the 60 minute version:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5488284265590289530

[superjames1992]

Re: How (in)significent are we?

The only thing we need to be wasting money on in space is putting some nuclear weapons and maybe a high velocity rail gun or something. We need to focus on the annihilation of the people on our world before we start worrying about exterminating the Martians.

We've signed a treaty barring us from putting weapons in space and on satellites, so that won't be happening.

And space exploration is by no means a waste of money. Many of the technologies we have today are direct results of the space race and other space missions.

[J0nnD0ugh]

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Actually, the universe revolves around me.

[jmood88]

Re: How (in)significent are we?

No, it doesn't. The heavens could be out there simply for our enjoyment and pleasure. Maybe we will inhabit them one day, though I don't think so in the next hundred years or so at least.

I hope you're joking. The universe goes far beyond what we can comprehend and it's expanding, there's no way that all that space is there for us. Humans will probably never even leave this solar system.

The truth is that, even if aliens exists, we probably won't ever see them being how vast space is. The aliens would probably have to travel hundreds or thousands of years to reach us and I don't think they would go through all that trouble to do that. Besides, why are they always considered the superior race? We could be far superior to them. They could be cavemen!

Any aliens who have the capability to visit this planet would be more advanced than us.

[Cebby]

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We've signed a treaty barring us from putting weapons in space and on satellites, so that won't be happening.

1. Just because we said we won't doesn't mean we shouldn't have the ability to. In the Cold War we said we wouldn't invade the Soviets, but those billions of dollars in weapons weren't manufactured for fun.

2. A treaty is only as good as its enforcer. Nobody tells us what we can and cannot do.

And space exploration is by no means a waste of money. Many of the technologies we have today are direct results of the space race and other space missions.

I think our hundreds of billions if not trillions by now could have produced something more worthwhile than Tang, Velcro, and teflon.

[superjames1992]

Re: How (in)significent are we?

I hope you're joking. The universe goes far beyond what we can comprehend and it's expanding, there's no way that all that space is there for us. Humans will probably never even leave this solar system.


Any aliens who have the capability to visit this planet would be more advanced than us.

I don't mean that the universe was made for us particularly to explore. I agree that we probably will not leave the solar system. I don't see us traveling for tens of hundreds of years to get to other stars that probably don't have planets. What is the point of that?

I agree about the aliens being more advanced than us if they get to earth. I just don't think that we will ever meet any aliens.

1. Just because we said we won't doesn't mean we shouldn't have the ability to. In the Cold War we said we wouldn't invade the Soviets, but those billions of dollars in weapons weren't manufactured for fun.

2. A treaty is only as good as its enforcer. Nobody tells us what we can and cannot do.



I think our hundreds of billions if not trillions by now could have produced something more worthwhile than Tang, Velcro, and teflon.

Here are a few more...

TV Satellite Dish, Medical Imaging, Ear Thermometer, Fire Fighter Equipment, Smoke Detector, Polarized Sun Glasses, Cordless Tools, Thermal Gloves and Boots, Space Pens, Shock Absorbing Helmets, Ski Boots, Failsafe Flashlight, Invisible Braces, Edible Toothpaste, Advanced Plastics, Joystick Controllers, Home insulation, Laser Heart Surgery, Body Imaging, Prosthetic Limbs, Infrared Thermometer, Light Emitting Diodes (LED), Chromosome Analysis, Digital Mammography, Lightning, Wind, and Collission Avoidance Systems on Airplanes, Helmet Padding, Golfball Aerodynamics...

Computer technology: Advanced keyboards, Customer Service Software, Database Management System, Laser Surveying, Aircraft controls, Lightweight Compact Disc, Expert System Software, Microcomputers, and Design Graphics, Air Quality Monitor, Virtual Reality, Semiconductor Cubing,

Home/Recreation Use: Enriched Baby Food, Water Purification Systems, Scratch-Resistant Glasses, Athletic Shoes, Sports Training, Dustbuster, shock-absorbing helmets, home security systems, smoke detectors, flat panel televisions, high-density batteries, trash compactors, food packaging and freeze-dried technology, cool sportswear, sports bras, hair styling appliances, fogless ski goggles, self-adjusting sunglasses, composite golf clubs, hang gliders, art preservation, and quartz crystal timing equipment.

Environmental and Resource Management: Solar Energy, Weather Forecasts More Accurate, Forest Management Improved, Wind Monitor, Fire Resistant Material, Whale identification method, environmental analysis, noise abatement, pollution measuring devices, pollution control devices, smokestack monitor, radioactive leak detector, earthquake prediction system, sewage treatment, energy saving air conditioning, and air purification.

Health and Medicine: Digital Imaging Breast Biopsy System, Breast Cancer Detection, Laser Angioplasty, Programmable Pacemaker, Arteriosclerosis detection, ultrasound scanners, automatic insulin pump, portable x-ray device, invisible braces, dental arch wire, palate surgery technology, clean room apparel, implantable heart aid, MRI, bone analyzer, and cataract surgery tools.

Industrial Productivity/Manufacturing Technology: Engine Lubricants, Microlasers, Interactive Computer Training, Advanced Welding Torch, Gasoline vapor recovery, self-locking fasteners, machine tool software, laser wire stripper, lubricant coating process, wireless communications, engine coatings, and engine design.

Public Safety: Radiation Hazard Indicators, Storm Warning System, Storm warning services (Doppler radar), firefighters' radios, lead poison detection, fire detector, flame detector, corrosion protection coating, protective clothing, and robotic hands.


So yeah, you and I have greatly benefitted from space exploration technologies and spinoffs of those technologies. We probably would not be on this computer or on OS if we did not go into space.

[PVarck31]

Re: How (in)significent are we?

Think about this. Picture all the sand in the world. The earth is 1 grain. And that's probably being generous.

We have come so far in such a short period of time. I mean think about it. 50 years ago there were no cell phones, cable tv, computers, internet, and tons of other things we use everyday. Just imagine what we will have in another 50 years. I mean we are just on the cusp of true space exploration. We have just recently discovered a whole bunch of extra-solar planets. Now think ahead 200 years. Just imagine what we will be able to do then. We are working on Plasma powered engines, which can go over 100 times faster than anything can go today. We are just now starting to see that worm holes could be a real possibility. Not to mention we are starting to figure out dark matter. Sorry this is just a bunch of stuff that spewed out. Probably in horrible grammar too. lol

[Cebby]

Re: How (in)significent are we?

Just imagine what we will have in another 50 years.

As long as there are sex robots, I don't really care what else we have.

[SuperBowlNachos]

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2. A treaty is only as good as its enforcer. Nobody tells us what we can and cannot do.

No one is going to invade us or anything. But if we broke the treaty our allies would not approve, that's where they have us on a leash

[DXZeke]

Re: How (in)significent are we?

At the rate that Humans are expanding on Earth we'll need a planet the size of Neptune, but I'm sure we'd keep expanding quickly if we had the room and size of jupiter.