9-year old is too good?

[Cebby]

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this absolutely absurd. The idea behind Little League, at least I thought, was to teach kids the fundamentals, learn how to play as a team, and learn to overcome challenges. But most of all, it was meant for kids to have fun. Well, how is anyone having fun now,

Who's having fun? Probably every other player. If the league's purpose is for developing players, this kid has no place there.

[countryboy]

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Pledge

I trust in God
I love my country
And will respect its laws
I will play fair
And strive to win
But win or lose
I will always do my best

I guess in Connecticutt there is an extra line stating, "but if I dominate, then I must either not play or not play to my potential."

[countryboy]

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Who's having fun? Probably every other player. If the league's purpose is for developing players, this kid has no place there.

Exactly, probably every other player. But what about this kid? Does he have any prior baseball expierence? If he doesnt', then why kick him out, for being better than everyone else?

[countryboy]

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"The right-hander has a fastball that tops out at about 40 mph. He throws so hard that the Youth Baseball League of New Haven told his coach that the boy could not pitch any more. When Jericho took the mound anyway last week, the opposing team forfeited the game, packed its gear and left, his coach said.

Way to promote the sport of baseball in a developmental league. Someone's better than you? Just quit. Why try?

Give me a break.

This league also had no problem accepting his $50 fee to play.

[fishepa]

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Threads merged.

[countryboy]

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League attorney Peter Noble says the only factor in banning Jericho from the mound is his pitches are just too fast.

“He is a very skilled player, a very hard thrower,” Noble said. “There are a lot of beginners. This is not a high-powered league. This is a developmental league whose main purpose is to promote the sport.”

so this is developmental league that is supposed to be for beginners. Didn't they hold tryouts? Did they list the qualifications to play in the league? Whats the hardest that someone can throw a pitch before they are deemed to be "too skilled"? How many hits is a kid allowed to get before he is deemed "too skilled"? Whats next, a kid hits a homer and now he's kicked out because nobody else in this league can hit a homerun? A kid makes a diving catch in the outfield now he's "too skilled"?

Oh and "not a high powered league"? Mr. Noble, could you please tell me what a "high powered" 9-11 year old league is?

[dkgojackets]

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I guess in Connecticutt there is an extra line stating, "but if I dominate, then I must either not play or not play to my potential."

It wasnt a Little League.

[dkgojackets]

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League attorney Peter Noble says the only factor in banning Jericho from the mound is his pitches are just too fast.

“He is a very skilled player, a very hard thrower,” Noble said. “There are a lot of beginners. This is not a high-powered league. This is a developmental league whose main purpose is to promote the sport.”

so this is developmental league that is supposed to be for beginners. Didn't they hold tryouts? Did they list the qualifications to play in the league? Whats the hardest that someone can throw a pitch before they are deemed to be "too skilled"? How many hits is a kid allowed to get before he is deemed "too skilled"? Whats next, a kid hits a homer and now he's kicked out because nobody else in this league can hit a homerun? A kid makes a diving catch in the outfield now he's "too skilled"?

Oh and "not a high powered league"? Mr. Noble, could you please tell me what a "high powered" 9-11 year old league is?

Holding tryouts and a draft is pretty much the opposite of a low competition developmental league. What kid thats never played before wants to be singled out at a tryout with everyone else?

If a kid is dominating game in and game out than he is obviously above the expectation of the league and should be moved up to a higher level. This happens all the time. I'm sure by a "high powered" 9-11 year old league he meant a regular Little League which does seek the best players, hold tryouts/draft, where several kids can hit homeruns, pitch hard, and usually receive instruction outside of league practice.

[countryboy]

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It wasnt a Little League.

my mistake.

[dkgojackets]

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"The right-hander has a fastball that tops out at about 40 mph. He throws so hard that the Youth Baseball League of New Haven told his coach that the boy could not pitch any more. When Jericho took the mound anyway last week, the opposing team forfeited the game, packed its gear and left, his coach said.

Way to promote the sport of baseball in a developmental league. Someone's better than you? Just quit. Why try?

Give me a break.

This league also had no problem accepting his $50 fee to play.

I agree that forfeiting and leaving is a terrible display.

They also had no problem offering a full refund to EVERY kid in the league so I doubt money was the issue.

Heck, I think it only being 50 dollars guarantees it to be a lesser competition league. Regular Little League around here costs like 150 to signup.

[countryboy]

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Holding tryouts and a draft is pretty much the opposite of a low competition developmental league. What kid thats never played before wants to be singled out at a tryout with everyone else?

If a kid is dominating game in and game out than he is obviously above the expectation of the league and should be moved up to a higher level. This happens all the time.

they said the only reason that he's being "banned" is because his pitches are too fast. My guess is that there has to be some sort of "qualifications" in place to ensure that everyone is on an equal "playing field".

He's only dominating because his pitches are "too fast". What about the rest of his game? Does he hit well? Does he field well? Does he run too fast for the other kids? Does he hit the ball too hard?

And where do you draw the line? Like I said in my other post. How many homeruns is a kid allowed to hit before he's dominating? How well can he field before he's dominating? How fast can he run before he's dominating?

And again, this is a devlopmental league right? Well help the other kids develop their batting skills instead of their whining skills.

[Cebby]

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Exactly, probably every other player. But what about this kid? Does he have any prior baseball expierence? If he doesnt', then why kick him out, for being better than everyone else?

This kid should be playing with better kids. It's not all that complicated.

so this is developmental league that is supposed to be for beginners. Didn't they hold tryouts? Did they list the qualifications to play in the league? Whats the hardest that someone can throw a pitch before they are deemed to be "too skilled"? How many hits is a kid allowed to get before he is deemed "too skilled"? Whats next, a kid hits a homer and now he's kicked out because nobody else in this league can hit a homerun? A kid makes a diving catch in the outfield now he's "too skilled"?

I think it's pretty obvious that this situation is a little more over the top than you're making it out to be, not to mention a pitcher can dominate a game in ways that other players can't. Generally, kids don't want to play in the "developmental" leagues, but yes, if there was a kid who was bombing out of the park every at bat, he'd probably be asked to leave.

Mr. Noble, could you please tell me what a "high powered" 9-11 year old league is?

Have you ever coached or watched 9-12 year old baseball recently? I'm being serious with this.

I coached my sister's 7-8 year old team 2 years ago, and there are absolutely HUGE differences between kids at that age.

When I played 10-12 ball (some 9 year olds played), we had Majors and AAA. If a Majors team would have played a AAA team, the Majors team would probably have won by 30-40 runs. 10-12 year old is the age for the Little League World Series. Imagine those kids playing kids who've never played baseball before.

[countryboy]

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I agree that forfeiting and leaving is a terrible display.

They also had no problem offering a full refund to EVERY kid in the league so I doubt money was the issue.

Heck, I think it only being 50 dollars guarantees it to be a lesser competition league. Regular Little League around here costs like 150 to signup.

they took his money and told him he could play. And now because he throws the ball too fast, he's not allowed to play.

Let me ask this, is Jericho a beginner like the other kids?

[countryboy]

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This kid should be playing with better kids. It's not all that complicated.

You're right, its not that complicated. This kid is being banned because his pitches are too fast. What if he threw the same speed as other kids but was still striking them out because he had good location skills? Does he get booted for that?

Have you ever coached or watched 9-12 year old baseball recently? I'm being serious with this.

I coached my sister's 7-8 year old team 2 years ago, and there are absolutely HUGE differences between kids at that age.

When I played 10-12 ball (some 9 year olds played), we had Majors and AAA. If a Majors team would have played a AAA team, the Majors team would probably have won by 30-40 runs. 10-12 year old is the age for the Little League World Series. Imagine those kids playing kids who've never played baseball before.

Yes, I've coached little league baseball. And I've seen kids "dominate" by throwing the ball really fast. Hell, I had kids scared to face kids that threw hard. I even had one kid cry in the dugout because he didn't wanna face this one kid. I told him to go out there and do the best he could. And he did. He struck out in three pitches and was so late on his swing that he was swinging at strike 1 as strike 3 was hitting the catcher's mitt, but he tried.

I agree, the difference in skill level between kids that age(I coached 10-12 year olds) are astronomical. They aren't saying that his "skill level" is better than everyone else because they stated that he could play other positions, just that his pitches are "too fast". So I ask again, where do you draw the line?

[dkgojackets]

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they took his money and told him he could play. And now because he throws the ball too fast, he's not allowed to play.

Let me ask this, is Jericho a beginner like the other kids?

I don't know his personal baseball history, but obviously he is much better than the rest of the kids and doesn't fit within the "beginner" skill level.