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  • dkgojackets
    Banned
    • Mar 2005
    • 13816

    #91
    Re: 9-year old is too good?

    the part thats wrong is saying that throwing the ball much harder than everyone else doesnt make him "too good," its clear that he is "too good" of a pitcher because he can throw so hard

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    • countryboy
      Growing pains
      • Sep 2003
      • 52858

      #92
      Re: 9-year old is too good?

      Originally posted by dkgojackets
      the part thats wrong is saying that throwing the ball much harder than everyone else doesnt make him "too good," its clear that he is "too good" of a pitcher because he can throw so hard
      I'm not sure thats what I said, but if thats how it came across then I am not making my point clear. I apologize for that.


      I understand that now they are claiming that he's "too good of a pitcher" because he is throwing so hard. My issue is, why did it take until after 8 games for something to be said? If they had a maximum pitch speed, shouldn't something have been said sooner?
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      • ehh
        Hall Of Fame
        • Mar 2003
        • 28962

        #93
        Re: 9-year old is too good?

        Originally posted by gibbzilla558
        Sorry to disappoint 'em, but there's 9-year olds all over Texas throwing 45-50.
        LOL, how do you know that tid bit of info? Seems like a random fact to know.
        "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

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        • dkgojackets
          Banned
          • Mar 2005
          • 13816

          #94
          Re: 9-year old is too good?

          Originally posted by countryboy
          I'm not sure thats what I said, but if thats how it came across then I am not making my point clear. I apologize for that.


          I understand that now they are claiming that he's "too good of a pitcher" because he is throwing so hard. My issue is, why did it take until after 8 games for something to be said? If they had a maximum pitch speed, shouldn't something have been said sooner?
          Im not sure. Maybe it was a parent of the third team he faced that brought it to the commish's attention and gathered support. Maybe the board only meets once a month and didnt have a chance to discuss the situation. None of us know all the details. I just think though that if it was indeed promoted as a developmental league for beginners and kids signed up with the understanding that they would be in a less competitive environment against similar talent levels then there is a good case for not allowing him to pitch. Its one thing to look to better your skills against a tough, challenging player like some posters have said. Its another to get your first taste of baseball while trying learn the game against a player way out of your league.

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          • Cebby
            Banned
            • Apr 2005
            • 22327

            #95
            Re: 9-year old is too good?

            Originally posted by gibbzilla558
            Sorry to disappoint 'em, but there's 9-year olds all over Texas throwing 45-50.
            There are kids everywhere doing that. When I was in my 10-12 year old league, 60 was the "fast" pitchers and 70 was the top players (though these are I'm sure the LL equivalent of 4.4 forties). But that was in the good league. If you were in the bad league doing that, you'd be pulled up before your first inning was over.

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            • Alliball
              MVP
              • Aug 2004
              • 2368

              #96
              Re: 9-year old is too good?

              Originally posted by dkgojackets
              You keep bringing this up and its still wrong. By throwing as fast as he does it means he's too good of a pitcher for the type of hitters the league has. None of us know the exact mission of the league (although we do know it isn't a competitive Little League), but if the rest of the kids and parents signed up with the understanding that they wouldn't face that type of heat then he shouldn't be allowed to pitch. They aren't kicking him out of the league, he can still play on the team with his friends if he wants to, so what's the big deal? If you want to blame someone for this blowing up blame the coach who put him on the mound after the league instructed him not to.
              He was invited. They knew full well what this kid could do. This was no surprise to anyone. This is just a case of a bitter adult taking his/her frustrations out the only way they know how, on an innocent kid. It really is pathetic.

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              • dkgojackets
                Banned
                • Mar 2005
                • 13816

                #97
                Re: 9-year old is too good?

                Originally posted by Alliball
                He was invited. They knew full well what this kid could do. This was no surprise to anyone. This is just a case of a bitter adult taking his/her frustrations out the only way they know how, on an innocent kid. It really is pathetic.
                Glad we have a league representative on these boards that knows what everyone thought. Really clears this up. Thanks.

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                • Alliball
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 2368

                  #98
                  Re: 9-year old is too good?

                  Originally posted by dkgojackets
                  Glad we have a league representative on these boards that knows what everyone thought. Really clears this up. Thanks.
                  I wish I walked around with blinders on.

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                  • MassNole
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 18848

                    #99
                    Re: 9-year old is too good?

                    Originally posted by dkgojackets
                    Glad we have a league representative on these boards that knows what everyone thought. Really clears this up. Thanks.
                    It seems the inference is readily made that the administrators full well knew what he could do if he was invited to play on another team. There is no reason for this kid to have been pulled from the league or for these adults to have taken these actions. You should remember this is coming from the same state that will suspend HS Football coaches for running up the score on a weaker opponent. This is nothing but a group of parents being upset because their kids aren't as good as another child.

                    And I just have to ask, are you a league rep? Because if the answer is no you're opinions on this issue are as valid as any other poster in the thread. But then again it's pretty clear you think you know everything about everything.

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                    • Brandwin
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 30621

                      #100
                      Re: 9-year old is too good?

                      Originally posted by MassNole

                      And I just have to ask, are you a league rep? Because if the answer is no you're opinions on this issue are as valid as any other poster in the thread. But then again it's pretty clear you think you know everything about everything.
                      Womp Womp!

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                      • dkgojackets
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 13816

                        #101
                        Re: 9-year old is too good?

                        Originally posted by MassNole
                        And I just have to ask, are you a league rep? Because if the answer is no you're opinions on this issue are as valid as any other poster in the thread. But then again it's pretty clear you think you know everything about everything.
                        No, which is why my posts always say "If the league was advertised as xxxx" or "Maybe a reason is xxx" instead of presenting them off as fact like "They knew exactly what was happening and this is exactly what they did"

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                        • countryboy
                          Growing pains
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 52858

                          #102
                          Re: 9-year old is too good?

                          Originally posted by dkgojackets
                          No, which is why my posts always say "If the league was advertised as xxxx" or "Maybe a reason is xxx" instead of presenting them off as fact like "They knew exactly what was happening and this is exactly what they did"
                          its still a matter of opinion. I state stuff in "exacts" quite a bit, but more often than not, people know that its speculation on my part. Obviously, none of us here no exactly what was in the minds of the people involved in this situation, but that hasn't stopped any of us from speculating and voicing our opinions.
                          I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                          I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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                          • Alliball
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 2368

                            #103
                            Re: 9-year old is too good?

                            Originally posted by dkgojackets
                            No, which is why my posts always say "If the league was advertised as xxxx" or "Maybe a reason is xxx" instead of presenting them off as fact like "They knew exactly what was happening and this is exactly what they did"
                            Wow, forget about my blinders comment. You need to get some glasses that help you see things in something other than black and white.

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                            • CMH
                              Making you famous
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 26203

                              #104
                              Re: 9-year old is too good?

                              Originally posted by Alliball
                              Wow, forget about my blinders comment. You need to get some glasses that help you see things in something other than black and white.
                              I recommend the following site:
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                              • Trevytrev11
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 3259

                                #105
                                Re: 9-year old is too good?

                                Maybe instead of spending time filing complaints to the league that this kid is too good, these parents should have taken their kids to the nearest park or to the nearest batting cage for a little extra BP.

                                "Don't worry about getting better, we'll just make the competition worse"

                                The woosification of America at it's best.

                                If my kid ever came to me and complained that the pitcher he faced was too good (or anything similar), the last thing I'm going to do is call and complain to the league or file a complain. I'll tell him that he'll just have to get better or find something else to play.

                                I understand this kid may be better than others, but he's only 9 years old. He's not going to understand the politics when he gets booted from this league to go play with a bunch of older kids that he doesn't know. He's a 2nd or 3rd grader.

                                In every league of every sport, somebody is always going to be the best. There is no way around it. The other kids should be striving to beat this kid instead of getting rid of him. Through highschool, there was always a kid that was heads and shoulders better than anyone else when it came to talent and ability. You just sucked it up, did your best and tipped your cap if you got beat. We didn't file a protest to have them booted from the league or to prevent him from doing what he did best.

                                I bet there are kids in the league that are equally good hitters that aren't getting the shaft because they only dominate 4 or 5 times a game instead of for 6 straight innings.
                                Last edited by Trevytrev11; 08-28-2008, 03:03 PM.

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