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  • TMagic
    G.O.A.T.
    • Apr 2007
    • 7550

    #1

    Anyone Hate That There Is Money...

    Money runs everything.

    There is nothing you can do in life without it pertaining to money.

    Had this conversation with my girl, and wanted to hear your thoughts on it.

    We talked about how we can't do lots of things that we'd love to do all because of money.

    Not just us either. But people all over the world can't do what they want to do because of the restraints put on them by money.

    Me and my girl have been together for 4 years. The only reason we don't want to get married now is because of money. There are plenty of people who want to wait to get married because they want to wait to afford a nice wedding.

    We both don't want to be in school now. Plenty of students like ourselves can't wait to be done with college. The only reason we're in school is to make money. Not because we actually want to be there.

    People have jobs that they absolutely hate to go to because of money. I figured that most of the stress that is put on people during their lives is all because of money. And I believe stress pre-disposes individuals to sickness, disease, and is a factor to poor health.

    There are plenty of places around the world that will never get to be seen because people don't have the money. There are many places I want to go, but I can't because of damn money.

    I want to be able to eat healthy, organic foods for the betterment (not sure if that's a word. But whatever) of myself. But I can't. Why? Because it costs too much. So I'm stuck eating crap half of the time. Crap that will eventually lead to health problems. All because of money.

    There are people out there dying, who can't get certain treatments, procedures, medicines, or testing done. Why because they don't have the damn money. Only the people with money can get the help they want.

    We can't find cure's for certain diseases that are killing people everyday. Why? Because they can't get the money to pay for research. BS.

    Then there's the people with excess money, that really don't even need it. They spend it on random, unneccessary crap, while there's poor people starving, families without homes, other people of the world that could really use it. That private jet you just bought could have fed millions of people, at least saved 1 life or 2. I think....just maybe.

    Many wars are fought because of money. Many divorces happen because of money. Many people suffer because they don't have money. From birth we begin learning the importance of money, and our lives become shaped by money. We grow up being taught that we need to do this and that because we need to make money.

    You're not viewed as successful unless you have money. You can't be with the one you love if you don't have money. People can't do the things that they'd absolutely love to do because of money.

    I can't go to the Lakers/Celtics game on Christmas because of money.


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  • baumy300
    Most Valuable Pepe
    • May 2005
    • 3998

    #2
    Re: Anyone Hate That There Is Money...

    I'm going to play the Devil's Advocate here and be willing to bet that you would change your tune if you had a lot of it.

    On a personal note though, I agree with you.
    I post the frog
    It makes me happy
    People get upset
    It makes me sad
    I post the frog

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    • MC Fatigue
      Banned
      • Feb 2006
      • 4150

      #3
      Re: Anyone Hate That There Is Money...

      You need something as a bargaining device; I don't have a problem with money at all. Money isn't the problem. Greed is the problem.

      As for some of your points - like research, well there are plenty of people who think the opposite. They don't want to cure diseases, because diseases makes the government a lot of money.

      I'm not saying that I believe that, but I'm pointing it out.
      Last edited by MC Fatigue; 12-10-2008, 12:13 PM.

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      • Vast
        MVP
        • Sep 2003
        • 4015

        #4
        Re: Anyone Hate That There Is Money...

        The Monetary system is the most flawed, corrupt and missunderstood institution in the world. The way it is now, corruption, greed, poverty, pollution and suffering is encouraged.
        I can talk all day about how the corporations have the politicians in their pockets and whatever change that is good for our country will never be executed as long as it doesn't favor the corporations. for example pollution, will never be decreased because it would be too costly for the corporations and the CEO's wouldn't be able to get their 30 million dollar bonuses... god forbid.

        Educate yourself man... watch this http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

        the first one Zeitgeist: addendum Starts off about the U.S. Monetary system. To say that we've been kept in the dark is an understatement. Fast forward to around the 4 minute mark.
        "I'm addicted to Video Games, and i chase it with a little OS." -Winston Churchill

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        • BTB
          Th*s **n't s** w*rld
          • Mar 2003
          • 3520

          #5
          Re: Anyone Hate That There Is Money...

          We wouldn't have any of the technological advancements we enjoy without the monetary system. You wouldn't be posting on OS without it. It allows companies/individuals to focus on what they do best (aka competitive advantage). That's the key to a prosperous society. Unfortunately, lots of government regulation keeps it from working optimally when other global players don't have to abide by the same rules.

          The dynasty will return


          Paul Pierce... talent + heart + toughness = The Truth

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          • callmetaternuts
            All Star
            • Jul 2004
            • 7045

            #6
            Re: Anyone Hate That There Is Money...

            It's tough to say money is the problem and thats what drives greed. What if we used the barter system? Corruption, greed, bad deals would still be encouraged. Its the flaw in mankind, not money thats the issue.

            It does suck to not have money, i understand that. But money isnt everything either. You can be happy with 2 bucks in your pocket as you can with 2 million
            Check out my Tampa Bay Buccaneers CFM Thread.

            You too can be a 5* recruit at FSU.......

            Originally posted by TwelveozPlaya21
            add worthless Xavier Lee to that list..
            Originally posted by MassNole
            CFL here he comes. Pfft, wait that would require learning a playbook. McDonalds here he comes.

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            • countryboy
              Growing pains
              • Sep 2003
              • 52708

              #7
              Re: Anyone Hate That There Is Money...

              for anyone that hates money, let me know. I'll be glad to take it off your hands.
              I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

              I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


              Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

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              • BTB
                Th*s **n't s** w*rld
                • Mar 2003
                • 3520

                #8
                Re: Anyone Hate That There Is Money...

                Ok so I am watching this video you posted and it does bring to light some interesting issues... I won't lie, being in business school the idea of money creation was the one thing that never sat well with me but I kind of learned to just accept it. However, this point they make about a 1969 Minnesota court foreclosure case is VERY interesting. If what they say is true, then no one should ever be foreclosed on because they were never given consideration. Essentially, this case says that US federal reserve notes (money) does not count for anything legally.

                That is NUTS.

                The dynasty will return


                Paul Pierce... talent + heart + toughness = The Truth

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                • Qb
                  All Star
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 8797

                  #9
                  Re: Anyone Hate That There Is Money...

                  I'll trade you 4 of my chickens for your cow. Meet me at the corner of 5th and Main when the sun is at its highest point in the sky. Don't forget the cow...

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                  • stewaat

                    #10
                    Re: Anyone Hate That There Is Money...

                    In the most brutally honest way:

                    Those who don't have it hate it because it's not easy to get
                    Those who have it love it because it gives them more opportunities in life

                    There are all sorts of tiers and exceptions but I believe this can be a generally accepted "theory".

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                    • stewaat

                      #11
                      Re: Anyone Hate That There Is Money...

                      Originally posted by callmetaternuts
                      It does suck to not have money, i understand that. But money isnt everything either. You can be happy with 2 bucks in your pocket as you can with 2 million
                      You can be happy without money but money strictly limits what a person can do to obtain happiness.

                      You want to go to the game with us?
                      No I can't afford a ticket.

                      Ok well it'll be on Fox just in case you wanted to know.
                      I don't have a TV either, can't afford it.

                      Oh well I think they broadcast it on the internet as well.
                      No computer, no internet. I can't afford either.

                      Well it'll be in the paper tomorrow.
                      Thanks

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                      • Vast
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 4015

                        #12
                        Re: Anyone Hate That There Is Money...

                        Originally posted by BTB
                        Ok so I am watching this video you posted and it does bring to light some interesting issues... I won't lie, being in business school the idea of money creation was the one thing that never sat well with me but I kind of learned to just accept it. However, this point they make about a 1969 Minnesota court foreclosure case is VERY interesting. If what they say is true, then no one should ever be foreclosed on because they were never given consideration. Essentially, this case says that US federal reserve notes (money) does not count for anything legally.

                        That is NUTS.
                        Its insane dude. There is so much they don't tell us, its mind blowing. Ever notice how successful politicians are sooo damn rich. George W. Bush owned the ****ing Texans for goodness sake. It goes hand in hand.

                        For those looking for a succesful career in politics heres some advice: Become at least a multi-millionaire
                        "I'm addicted to Video Games, and i chase it with a little OS." -Winston Churchill

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                        • stewaat

                          #13
                          Re: Anyone Hate That There Is Money...

                          I'll do a little citizen's patrol:

                          Let's please keep politics out of this thread because:
                          - It's a good topic IMO, don't want to see it closed
                          - They hand out infractions for very small things now

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                          • baumy300
                            Most Valuable Pepe
                            • May 2005
                            • 3998

                            #14
                            Re: Anyone Hate That There Is Money...

                            Originally posted by stewaat
                            They hand out infractions for very small things now
                            *Refraining from making penile joke*

                            So how bout them Vikes?
                            I post the frog
                            It makes me happy
                            People get upset
                            It makes me sad
                            I post the frog

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                            • callmetaternuts
                              All Star
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 7045

                              #15
                              Re: Anyone Hate That There Is Money...

                              Originally posted by stewaat
                              You can be happy without money but money strictly limits what a person can do to obtain happiness.

                              You want to go to the game with us?
                              No I can't afford a ticket.

                              Ok well it'll be on Fox just in case you wanted to know.
                              I don't have a TV either, can't afford it.

                              Oh well I think they broadcast it on the internet as well.
                              No computer, no internet. I can't afford either.

                              Well it'll be in the paper tomorrow.
                              Thanks
                              Guess it depends on how you define happiness, to piggy back off your comments. I love sports, but you can be happy without being at the game, or watching it. There are bigger things in life (please dont tell my wife i said that, id never be allowed to watch again)
                              Check out my Tampa Bay Buccaneers CFM Thread.

                              You too can be a 5* recruit at FSU.......

                              Originally posted by TwelveozPlaya21
                              add worthless Xavier Lee to that list..
                              Originally posted by MassNole
                              CFL here he comes. Pfft, wait that would require learning a playbook. McDonalds here he comes.

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