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  • Brandon13
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    • Oct 2005
    • 8915

    #46
    Re: School seeks to forfeit 100-0 win

    The teams shouldn't have been playing each other in the first place, but pressing the entire game when you've already built an insurmountable lead is just stupid. I don't give a damn about running up the score in a lot of situations, but this was just completely uncalled for.

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    • pfunk880
      MVP
      • Jul 2004
      • 4452

      #47
      Re: School seeks to forfeit 100-0 win

      Originally posted by YankeePride
      Is there a rule stating this?

      I just disagree then. These girls could be playing for a college scholarship. If they were better than every team they played, should they pull all of the starters and stop playing hard after the 1st quarter? How is that fair to the team that is playing well?

      The truth is this. Basketball is a game between two teams that play 2 or 4 quarters. The team with the most points wins at the end of the game. To stop one team from playing basketball because their competition is unable to match their talent is stopping the teams from playing basketball.

      You wouldn't have a bowling team walk into a bowling match and expect that they start rolling balls down the gutter because their competition can't hit a pin.
      How do you play two quarters?
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      • Cebby
        Banned
        • Apr 2005
        • 22327

        #48
        Re: School seeks to forfeit 100-0 win

        Originally posted by pfunk880
        How do you play two quarters?
        You can if you have the common sense to forfeit when down 56-0.

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        • CMH
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          • Oct 2002
          • 26203

          #49
          Re: School seeks to forfeit 100-0 win

          Originally posted by pfunk880
          How do you play two quarters?
          I didn't want to write two halves. I figured people would get it and by your smilie I'm sure you got it.
          "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

          "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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          • CMH
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            • Oct 2002
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            #50
            Re: School seeks to forfeit 100-0 win

            Originally posted by Cusefan
            How Can you defend a team that is leading 100-0 and still using Full Court press? I dont blame the kids for playing hard, Hell I would go for the Jugular. But it is a Coaches Responsibility to reel in his players. Since I watch lots of College hoops, When a team is up by about 20 w/ the shotclock off, they hold the ball till the game is over. This Team kept on shooting then Pressed.
            I don't agree with the Full Court Press. We can agree that that is totally unnecessary. It's like stealing with a 7-run lead.

            But, I did read comments about the team pouring it on offensively. I will never agree with anyone that a team should stop scoring just because of the lead.

            It's like the old football philosophy that you let up when up big in the 4th. I think that's a horrible approach to playing the game. So, I don't have issue with the girls taking three-pointers late in the game.

            It's up to the opposing team to stop them from scoring. But, when you're up big you don't need to do everything you can to stop the other team from scoring. So, yea, a full court press is not good sportsmanship in that situation.
            "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

            "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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            • ThreeKing
              Banned
              • Aug 2007
              • 5852

              #51
              Re: School seeks to forfeit 100-0 win

              Coach got the hook.

              http://sports.espn.go.com/highschool...ory?id=3859935

              I think fistofrage is right on this. Dude has a small pecker and was compensating badly.

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              • pistoldill
                Pro
                • Nov 2004
                • 762

                #52
                Re: School seeks to forfeit 100-0 win

                Originally posted by Timmay
                You're right - how dare those "special" kids play against some competition and have fun and grow from it and play "real" teams.
                They learned from it; play better and you don't lose 100-0.
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                Originally posted by Cebby
                So the ACC should work around FSU having the worst academic scandal in recent history? Maybe FSU should stop cheating, fighting, packing gats, and act like normal people.

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                • Cebby
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 22327

                  #53
                  Re: School seeks to forfeit 100-0 win

                  Dallas Academy should hire them. Then maybe they can learn to not be the worst team in the history of sports.

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                  • pistoldill
                    Pro
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 762

                    #54
                    Re: School seeks to forfeit 100-0 win

                    Originally posted by Cebby
                    Dallas Academy should hire them. Then maybe they can learn to not be the worst team in the history of sports.
                    Their kids are too 'special' to be the worst team ever.

                    ABC had a tv interview and news segment with some of the girls on that team. They talked clearly, didn't show real physical deformities...

                    So...let me get this straight; when some kid with severe downs syndrome starts filling it up with three pointers, it's all good. Everyone is happy. I mean, that isn't a slap in the face or anything; having a special needs student put in the game against you, just so you can watch said special needs student launch successful threes on you. Or letting someone who is severely handicapped run a touchdown late in a game, that's all about what is great in sports. But a bunch of girls who look like their only problem is the fact that they can't keep their attention span long enough to make a ******* free throw...this somehow becomes a crisis of conscious?

                    I'm sorry...just lacing up a pair of tennis shoes and dribbling a basketball doesn't make you a hero. Just because you have some wiring wrong in your brain doesn't make you courageous, especially when, by all accounts, you got bent over a barrel and got beat down in a sporting event. How's about we start having football teams forfeit victories when they are beating teams 84-0, because it makes the other kids feel bad?

                    Or how about you just say "deal with it" and move on. The story will go away within a month, and given the way these girls seem to be, they've already forgotten what happened because a butterfly flew across the gym.
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                    Originally posted by Cebby
                    So the ACC should work around FSU having the worst academic scandal in recent history? Maybe FSU should stop cheating, fighting, packing gats, and act like normal people.

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                    • Brandwin
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 30621

                      #55
                      Re: School seeks to forfeit 100-0 win

                      ^ I agree.

                      Someone posted on another site that here were the other scores from games that were reported.

                      Yavneh Academy 55 Dallas Academy 6
                      Waxahachie Prep (4-6) 66 Dallas Academy 4
                      Fairhill 49 Dallas Academy 7
                      Covenant School 100 Dallas Academy 0

                      Here are scores from common opponents
                      Covenent School 77 Waxahachie Prep 27
                      Waxahachie Prep 44 Fairhill 23

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                      • Candyman5
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                        • Nov 2006
                        • 14380

                        #56
                        Re: School seeks to forfeit 100-0 win

                        Originally posted by Olson-for-Heisman
                        Yep, since there's plenty of fun in a 100-0 loss.

                        What the hell is there to learn in a 100-0 game? That your opponent is classless?
                        Nope, it teaches you that you suck. I have no problem with the score or anything. IMO in any sport, you know what you are comming into when you sign up to play. I feel that there should not be a mercy rule and you play to win. You dont play to win but then take it easy later. Sports are a competition and should be treated that way.

                        Besides the schedualing is between both teams that play. It isn't that one team says I am going to play you and you have to. I also agree if the score was 0 to 100 and the Special Needs kids had 100 we would not be hearing any of this in a negative way. And ADD and ADHD is not really IMO a special desease. I had ADHD and I am over it. I consider deseases like Downs special deseases.
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                        • fistofrage
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                          • Aug 2002
                          • 13682

                          #57
                          Re: School seeks to forfeit 100-0 win

                          I have a feeling that the people who agree with winning 100-0 by still pressing in the 4th quarter and jacking up 3's are the same people who cheese all day long in video sports games, win by as many as you can at all costs.
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                          • Cebby
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 22327

                            #58
                            Re: School seeks to forfeit 100-0 win

                            Originally posted by fistofrage
                            I have a feeling that the people who agree with winning 100-0 by still pressing in the 4th quarter and jacking up 3's are the same people who cheese all day long in video sports games, win by as many as you can at all costs.
                            Not really.

                            Think about how bad you'd have to be to lose 100-0.

                            I'm imagine a game where the girls dribble off their feet, lob horrible passes that are off target, are physically unfit, and leave players wide open.

                            Pressing in the second half was a dick move, but some people are seriously underestimating the disparity in high school female basketball. In the 100 point blowout I saw, the other team was just inept. Honestly, it made me wonder if Frederick High School didn't treat girl's basketball like a mandatory responsibility and simply rotated every girl in the school through the team for a game or two.

                            I still don't see why they didn't forfeit. If you want the other team to stop scoring, either stop them or leave the gym.

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                            • CMH
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                              • Oct 2002
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                              #59
                              Re: School seeks to forfeit 100-0 win

                              Originally posted by fistofrage
                              I have a feeling that the people who agree with winning 100-0 by still pressing in the 4th quarter and jacking up 3's are the same people who cheese all day long in video sports games, win by as many as you can at all costs.
                              I don't see the relation at all. If the kids had an 8 foot center that they gave the ball to everytime, and they won 100-0, then yea, I can agree.

                              Playing basketball and scoring points is not cheesing.

                              I think most agree that full court press is over doing it. But, full court press is not cheesing either. It's just bad sportsmanship late in a game up by 100 points.
                              "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                              "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                              • Candyman5
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                                • Nov 2006
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                                #60
                                Re: School seeks to forfeit 100-0 win

                                Originally posted by fistofrage
                                I have a feeling that the people who agree with winning 100-0 by still pressing in the 4th quarter and jacking up 3's are the same people who cheese all day long in video sports games, win by as many as you can at all costs.
                                Nope, I am a full SIM sports game player. But you have to be really Horrible to lose that much in a basketball game and get shutout.
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