7 dead 12 wounded in shooting spree

[Jackdog]

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I just got off the Phone with a very good friend who responded to the scene, He was telling me that the Death toll would be much higher if this had occured somewhere else. Those who got shot and did not die within the first few moments had their lives saved my fellow soldiers. Its a good thing the Army Teaches everyone how to treat combat wounds like these.

There are alot of heros in Fort Hood right now.

Amen.

[Cusefan]

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Good points. Maybe we'll find out. He's still alive.

Ship his *** to Gauntanamo

[mKoz26]

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First let me say that my best wishes go out to the families of the people who lost their lives at Fort Hood. What a tragedy.

This is the world we live in though.

OT: The new Call of Duty's opening scene just got a lot more controversial, whether this guy was a terrorist or not.

[PVarck31]

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Its confirmed he is alive and in custody.

[Scottdau]

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Wow what a sad day! Jack I am glad your family are OK. That was heart wrenching just reading your post about your sister freaking out. I pray for the families that lost their love ones today. The older I get the more I realize you never know what can happen tomorrow.

[Scott]

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Wow what a sad day! Jack I am glad your family are OK. That was heart wrenching just reading your post about your sister freaking out. I pray for the families that lost their love ones today. The older I get the more I realize you never know what can happen tomorrow.

Hope everyone there is okay, both my parents were stationed in Fort Hood.

[jim416]

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ABC reporting the suspect was a convert to Islam. Surprise!

I can't wait to see the media spin themselves silly trying to portray this as the first-ever documented case of multiple-person, coordinated PTSD instead of calling it what it really is.

My sentiments. I'm glad he lived. Now it will HAVE to be dealt with.

Extremely upset and saddened about our troops.

[trobinson97]

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Damn shame...a Lt. Col has said he had been making some pretty out there comments before that if true, I don't even see how they wouldn't have him under some kind of evaluation/watch before this happened. They say he has been harassed as well.

Glad to hear your relatives are okay Jackdog, really sad to hear about all the ones that aren't. I'll have to call a friend tomorrow and see if she and her husband are alright. Something like this happening on a base was and still is one of my biggest fears, especially at a huge base like Hood. Damn shame

[bucksfan07]

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My sentiments. I'm glad he lived. Now it will HAVE to be dealt with.

Extremely upset and saddened about our troops.

cosing; I think as of right this is a terrorist attack done by someone who recently became a Muslim extremist, though the main stream media won't like to admit it

[Buckeyes_Doc]

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Really glad this scumbag is alive so the rest of his life he will have to pay for what he has done, ship his *** to Guantanamo and let him be miserable for the rest of his life so he wishes he died yesterday.

[Jackdog]

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First off...thanks for all the kind words for my family.

Second. This Major was promoted in the past year even with all the terrible evaluations and ridiculous comments that led to open fights with other officers. He was drummed out of Walter Reed because of unacceptable behavior,why was he sent to Ft Hood?

From USA Today and CBS News:

A disgruntled doctor

Hasan was born in Virginia and graduated from Virginia Tech university, according to The Roanoke Times archives.

He later received two degrees from the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md., according to Hasan's military record and a university newsletter.

U.S. Rep. Michael McCaul, a Republican from Austin, was briefed by military officials and said Hasan had taken some unusual classes for someone studying about mental health.

"He took a lot of extra classes in weapons training, which seems a little odd for a psychiatrist," McCaul said.

McCaul said Hasan had received poor grades for his work at Walter Reed and was not happy about his situation in Fort Hood, where Hasan apparently felt like "he didn't fit in."

"He's disgruntled because he had a poor performance evaluation, he doesn't believe in the mission, he's looking at getting transferred to Afghanistan or Iraq," McCaul said. "He's not happy about all that."

McCaul added that officials planned to interview Hasan to try to determine for sure that he was not working with foreign agents.

"From an intelligence standpoint, that's key, finding out if he talked to anyone overseas," McCaul said.

Hasan had come to the attention of federal law enforcement officials at least six months ago because of Internet postings that discussed suicide bombings and other threats, according to a federal law enforcement official who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the case.

The official said investigators were trying to confirm that Hasan was the author of the postings, one of which was a blog that equates suicide bombers with a soldier throwing himself on a grenade to save the lives of his comrades. One of the officials said federal search warrants were being drawn up to authorize seizure of Hasan's computer.

The posting originated with an essay posted on Scribd.com, the popular document-sharing Web site, which argued that suicide bombings were not authorized by Islamic law. It said, for instance, that "it should be quite obvious that all of the 'evidences' used to justify suicide bombing by way of analogy are rather tenuous."

A subsequent, poorly-spelled comment from a user named "NidalHasan" posted in May 2009 seemed to take issue with that analysis. "If one suicide bomber can kill 100 enemy soldiers because they were caught off guard that would be considered a strategic victory," the comment said. "You can call them crazy if you want but their act was not one of suicide that is despised by Islam."

Retired Army Col. Terry Lee, who said he worked with Hasan, recalls Hasan getting into frequent arguments with others in the military who supported the wars, and had tried hard to prevent his pending deployment.

Hasan attended prayers regularly when he lived outside Washington, often in his Army uniform, said Faizul Khan, a former imam at a mosque Hasan attended in Silver Spring, Md. He said Hasan was a lifelong Muslim.

On a form filled out by those seeking spouses through a program at the mosque, Hasan listed his birthplace as Arlington, Va., but his nationality as Palestinian, Khan said.

"I don't know why he listed Palestinian," Khan said, "He was not born in Palestine."

If all of the above is true,the blood of my Army brothers are on many more hands than Hasan. Why was still in the service? I can only come up with one answer. Political Correctness. IMHO 13 families now have to bury loved ones killed on American soil because the Army didn't want to offend anyone. It makes me sick.

This breaks my heart. Also from USA Today:

'It's just nerve-racking'

Soldiers and others described a chaotic scene at the base.

Sirens wailed as Tammy Biggers, wife of an Army specialist deployed in Iraq, huddled in her locked house, fielding phone calls from family and friends while sending text messages to her daughter at the local high school.

"Now I can't even get a hold of her. The cellphones are jammed. I can't even send a text," Biggers said. "They still have us on lockdown. I'm just staying right beside my computer with the news on and praying."

"Down here you don't think a lot about sirens. It could be a training exercise," she said. Then came the orders to seek shelter. "It's just nerve-racking."

"It is crazy to see it happen on your home turf," said Army Sgt. Dominic Moes, 28, from Boyne City, Mich. "You don't really expect it at all, especially soldier-to-soldier. It's pretty shocking."

Moes was among hundreds of soldiers waiting outside the base, which had been locked down for hours. Dozens of cars were lined up at the gate, going nowhere.

"A lot of us deal with the stress but it's something else to hurt another soldier," said Moes, who said he has deployed to Iraq three times. "These are the guys we confide in. A lot of these soldier are as close to me as my own family."

Specialist David Straub, from Ardmore, Ala., waited in a line of cars to re-enter Fort Hood. He said he had twice deployed and was proud that both times they "came back with everybody."

"Now this happens," Straub said. "I feel like I've been stabbed in the back."

It's been a very long time since the Army put someone to death for treason. I'm hoping that changes with Hasan.

[trobinson97]

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It really looks like a lot of people dropped the ball on this one. How did this guy's actions not send up serious red flags? How is it that Lt. Col's and such could hear him saying the things he said, getting into fights and what have you and still have him in the Army, getting promoted no less?

[LtGen]

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It really looks like a lot of people dropped the ball on this one. How did this guy's actions not send up serious red flags? How is it that Lt. Col's and such could hear him saying the things he said, getting into fights and what have you and still have him in the Army, getting promoted no less?

I agree with this. This guy should have been sent packing.

And Jackdog I don't think it has anything to do with political correctness. I think that's just the Armys way. Back when I was in the service(yes,you may find that hard to believe,but I did serve in the Army) I saw plenty of officers who should have been drummed out get promoted to higher rank. I think if the Major had been an enlisted man who was doing and saying that stuff,he'd have been drummed out in a heartbeat. And I'm not trying to argue with you,that's just my take.

[TheMatrix31]

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So, apparently, he gave all his stuff away along with copies of the Quran on Thursday morning. He was seen on surveillance video @ a nearby convenience store wearing traditional white garb. He yelled "Allah Ewakbar" before going on the rampage.

http://www.kxxv.com/Global/story.asp?S=11453922

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/11/06/2009-11-06_susptected_gunman_in_fort_hood_shooting_maj_nidal_malik_hasan_shouted_allah_akba.html

.....folks, there was an terrorist attack on American soil yesterday.

[LtGen]

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So, apparently, he gave all his stuff away along with copies of the Quran on Thursday morning. He was seen on surveillance video @ a nearby convenience store wearing traditional white garb. He yelled "Allah Ewakbar" before going on the rampage.

http://www.kxxv.com/Global/story.asp?S=11453922

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/11/06/2009-11-06_susptected_gunman_in_fort_hood_shooting_maj_nidal_malik_hasan_shouted_allah_akba.html

.....folks, there was an terrorist attack on American soil yesterday.

Give it a rest with the terrorist attack crap man. Really.