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  • Blzer
    Resident film pundit
    • Mar 2004
    • 42515

    #61
    Re: Why is proper grammar dying on the internet?

    Originally posted by lasthour
    Do you guys really believe that talking better English than someone else makes you a smarter individual? Well maybe in English, but......
    I'm currently attempting to dig up the Billy Madison "business ethics" bit from the wide world of the web...
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    • The GIGGAS
      Timbers - Jags - Hokies
      • Mar 2003
      • 28474

      #62
      Re: Why is proper grammar dying on the internet?

      Originally posted by Blzer
      I'm currently attempting to dig up the Billy Madison "business ethics" bit from the wide world of the web...
      That's one of the easiest things to find. Gotta step up your game, Blzer.
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      • DickDalewood

        #63
        Re: Why is proper grammar dying on the internet?

        Originally posted by Blzer
        Wouldn't it be "really technical"?

        I shall thereby dismiss the remainder of your posted content...
        No, I'm right, lol.

        Now go find that Billy Madison bit, I could use a good laugh.

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        • Blzer
          Resident film pundit
          • Mar 2004
          • 42515

          #64
          Re: Why is proper grammar dying on the internet?

          Originally posted by DickDalewood
          No, I'm right, lol.

          Now go find that Billy Madison bit, I could use a good laugh.
          Are you really correct? I actually didn't know that...

          EDIT: And I can't find this clip anywhere.
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          • The GIGGAS
            Timbers - Jags - Hokies
            • Mar 2003
            • 28474

            #65
            Re: Why is proper grammar dying on the internet?

            Originally posted by Blzer
            Are you really correct? I actually didn't know that...

            EDIT: And I can't find this clip anywhere.
            Oh wait, are you looking for the clip or the transcript?
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            • DickDalewood

              #66
              Re: Why is proper grammar dying on the internet?

              Originally posted by Blzer
              Are you really correct? I actually didn't know that...

              EDIT: And I can't find this clip anywhere.
              "Really" is considered the formal use, "real" is the informal use. In this case, either are actually correct

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              • Blzer
                Resident film pundit
                • Mar 2004
                • 42515

                #67
                Re: Why is proper grammar dying on the internet?

                Originally posted by The GIGGAS
                Oh wait, are you looking for the clip or the transcript?
                The clip. Anyone could read the transcript, but it's nothing like the video and watching him stammer.

                Originally posted by DickDalewood
                "Really" is considered the formal use, "real" is the informal use. In this case, either are actually correct
                Okay, good... I thought I had messed up my adverbs all of my life. Phew!
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                • Speedy
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                  • Apr 2008
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                  #68
                  Re: Why is proper grammar dying on the internet?

                  Blzr, that Stewie clip reminds me of the "cool whip" bit a while back as well.

                  It's comical when an individual poster doesn't use proper grammar/spelling (for either ignorance, laziness or idiocy) and another poster corrects the error(s) that a revolt starts in the thread criticizing the corrector.
                  Originally posted by Gibson88
                  Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
                  It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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                  • Scottdau
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 32580

                    #69
                    Re: Why is proper grammar dying on the internet?

                    What is even funnier is when someone corrects them and makes a grammar error in their post too! That always gets me.

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                    • bgeno
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 4321

                      #70
                      Re: Why is proper grammar dying on the internet?

                      Originally posted by DickDalewood
                      I agree. Although, just for the hell of it, let's get REAL technical with your sentence there. In actuality, you also need commas within the uncle Jack part, and here's why:

                      1) If you commonly refer to him as Uncle Jack, then the "uncle" also needs to be capitalized because in your usage, Uncle Jack is his name. In that case, the sentence would read, "I helped my Uncle Jack, off a horse."

                      2) If he is simply one of your uncles who happens to be named Jack, then Jack is separated from uncle, and the sentence would read, "I helped my uncle, Jack, off a horse."

                      However, to write it as you did, minus the commas, does nothing to prevent the inappropriate connotations of the sentence.

                      Punctuation is key
                      That's not right at all.

                      (If it helps my credibility on the subject, I graduate in May with a degree in journalism from Penn State.)

                      The comma should not be there. Read it and pause at the comma because, quite frankly, that is what a comma should make you do when you are reading aloud -- pause.

                      I helped my Uncle Jack ... off a horse.

                      Pause at the ellipses. It doesn't sound right, does it? It would still be "I helped my Uncle Jack off a horse." The comma does not belong and serves no purpose in your sentence.

                      You got the second part correct though. If he was one of a few uncles whom you don't typically refer to as "Uncle Jack," you would set "Jack" off in commas.
                      Originally posted by DaImmaculateONe
                      How many brothers does Sub-zero running around in his clothing? No one can seem to kill the right one.

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                      • Scottdau
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 32580

                        #71
                        Re: Why is proper grammar dying on the internet?

                        Originally posted by bgeno
                        That's not right at all.

                        (If it helps my credibility on the subject, I graduate in May with a degree in journalism from Penn State.)

                        The comma should not be there. Read it and pause at the comma because, quite frankly, that is what a comma should make you do when you are reading aloud -- pause.

                        I helped my Uncle Jack ... off a horse.

                        Pause at the ellipses. It doesn't sound right, does it? It would still be "I helped my Uncle Jack off a horse." The comma does not belong and serves no purpose in your sentence.

                        You got the second part correct though. If he was one of a few uncles whom you don't typically refer to as "Uncle Jack," you would set "Jack" off in commas.
                        Actually he is right too and so are you. But the thing is it is a modifier problem. The sentence needs to be completely rewrote. I helped my Uncle Jack get off his horse the other day.

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                        • bgeno
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 4321

                          #72
                          Re: Why is proper grammar dying on the internet?

                          Originally posted by DickDalewood

                          Here is one of my least favorite speech mistakes... the misuse of the word "seen":

                          Ex: "I seen you at the movie last night."

                          It's SAW people, "I SAW you at the movie last night."

                          Sigh...
                          My little brother has a big problem with that. He's 8.

                          You would think that, in a house with a high school English teacher and a journalism major, he would speak better than he does. But he goes to a daycare where the adults speak HORRIBLE grammar, so he picks up terrible habits.
                          Originally posted by DaImmaculateONe
                          How many brothers does Sub-zero running around in his clothing? No one can seem to kill the right one.

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                          • bgeno
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2003
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                            #73
                            Re: Why is proper grammar dying on the internet?

                            Originally posted by Scottdau
                            Actually he is right too and so are you. But the thing is it is a modifier problem. The sentence needs to be completely rewrote. I helped my Uncle Jack get off his horse the other day.
                            I think you're right in that the sentence is flawed to begin with.

                            "Uncle Jack" might need a verb in the sentence, and he doesn't have one in "I helped my Uncle Jack off the horse."

                            "I helped my Uncle Jack get off the horse."

                            I think that's technically what it should be. I'm not sure, though.

                            Still, "I helped my Uncle Jack, off the horse." is not right, no matter how you look at it.
                            Originally posted by DaImmaculateONe
                            How many brothers does Sub-zero running around in his clothing? No one can seem to kill the right one.

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                            • Scottdau
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 32580

                              #74
                              Re: Why is proper grammar dying on the internet?

                              Originally posted by bgeno
                              I think you're right in that the sentence is flawed to begin with.

                              "Uncle Jack" might need a verb in the sentence, and he doesn't have one in "I helped my Uncle Jack off the horse."

                              "I helped my Uncle Jack get off the horse."

                              I think that's technically what it should be. I'm not sure, though.

                              Still, "I helped my Uncle Jack, off the horse." is not right, no matter how you look at it.

                              Actually the pause is the problem, but it shouldn't be. Because you think they should pause Jack from off. But a lot of times we say that word Jack a little longer and then say off after we hold the Jack. If you know what I mean?

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                              • bgeno
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 4321

                                #75
                                Re: Why is proper grammar dying on the internet?

                                In any case, I'm pretty sure it's "jackoff."


                                lol


                                The only reason you think there should be a pause is because of the connotation of "jack off."

                                Try saying "Uncle Tim" in stead of "Uncle Jack." No pause needed.
                                Originally posted by DaImmaculateONe
                                How many brothers does Sub-zero running around in his clothing? No one can seem to kill the right one.

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