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  • MC Fatigue
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    • Feb 2006
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    #46
    Re: Killer Whale kills trainer at Sea World

    Originally posted by Adam Dayton
    I think everybody here knows that. It's pretty much common knowledge.
    You'd be pretty surprised then...

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    • Scottdau
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      • Feb 2003
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      #47
      Re: Killer Whale kills trainer at Sea World

      Then why are they not called Killer Dolphins? huh! Also I would like to point out this is not the killer whale's fault. He was just being a killer whale. This is what they do. I think Sea World should get rid of the whale though. But they look like they are not going too.

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      • Adam Dayton
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        • Jan 2008
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        #48
        Re: Killer Whale kills trainer at Sea World

        "Killer Whales" are perhaps the smartest mammals only second to humans. Having them go from a lush ocean full of family friends and limitless journeying (they travel like 150 miles a day) to a small *** pond with limited whale contact being forced to use their insane intelligence to do party tricks for a bunch of idiot spectators puts them into a nuts depression. There is a good article floating around that talks about this.

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        • z Revis
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          • Oct 2008
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          #49
          Re: Killer Whale kills trainer at Sea World

          Originally posted by MC Fatigue
          You'd be pretty surprised then...
          lol. I'm one of those people that didn't know that for a long while. I always thought they were whales until a couple years ago.
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          • Adam Dayton
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            • Jan 2008
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            #50
            Re: Killer Whale kills trainer at Sea World

            Where was this guy when you needed him?-

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            • z Revis
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              • Oct 2008
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              #51
              Re: Killer Whale kills trainer at Sea World

              Originally posted by Sting
              I wonder how long til the footage of the actual incident leaks. I wanna see it, not because I'm twisted, because I'm just curious as to exactly what happened. We've gotten about 4 different scenarios.
              I too am interesting in that.
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              • Schism 6
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                • Nov 2008
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                #52
                Re: Killer Whale kills trainer at Sea World

                Originally posted by DocHolliday
                Caging up such a smart and powerful predator is probably not a good idea.

                The crazy thing is, Killer whales have NEVER killed a person in the wild. Yet, there have been a handful deaths by captive whales.

                Conclusion: These things don't enjoy being locked in a small aquarium for very long, and get pissed off.


                Fix: Stop keeping them captive. Leave it at dolphins.
                So you are 100% that no one has died from killer whales in the wild, are you a killer whale scientist or something??????

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                • Sting
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                  • Nov 2004
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                  #53
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                  • BunnyHardaway
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                    • Nov 2004
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                    #54
                    Re: Killer Whale kills trainer at Sea World

                    Originally posted by Schism 6
                    So you are 100% that no one has died from killer whales in the wild, are you a killer whale scientist or something??????
                    So you have to be a scientist to find out whether or not a killer whale has killed a person in the wild?

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                    • rj9949
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                      • Apr 2003
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                      #55
                      Re: Killer Whale kills trainer at Sea World

                      Originally posted by JJLinn
                      So you have to be a scientist to find out whether or not a killer whale has killed a person in the wild?
                      People are also a little more readily available to captive killer whales than wild killer whales.

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                      • z Revis
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                        • Oct 2008
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                        #56
                        Re: Killer Whale kills trainer at Sea World

                        Originally posted by Schism 6
                        So you are 100% that no one has died from killer whales in the wild, are you a killer whale scientist or something??????
                        Here you go:

                        "They have never killed a human in the wild," said Nancy Black, a marine biologist with Monterey Bay Whale Watch. That's mostly because, unlike sharks, killer whales don't frequent near-shore areas where people swim. (Even shark attacks on humans are generally accidental, experts say, with sharks mistaking humans for seals or other typical food.)
                        http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/...y-kill-people/

                        Anyway here's another quote from that article:

                        "I just think the killer whale may have wanted a social companion and just held her under too long," Black told LiveScience. "I would think the killer whale didn't do it intentionally but more as a play thing. They're so powerful." She added killer whales don't have to come up for air as often as a human might and could reasonably hold someone underwater for 15 to 20 minutes.
                        Interesting..

                        It was also noted in another article I read that the trainer didn't have any traumatic marks on her. She just had a few scrapes. It's not like the whale tried to eat her.
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                        • P2K
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                          • Aug 2006
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                          #57
                          Re: Killer Whale kills trainer at Sea World

                          If it has teeth, there could be a possibility of me getting harmed.

                          Killer whale, dog, cat, rat, possum. Hamster. Smurf.
                          Last edited by P2K; 02-26-2010, 12:53 PM.

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                          • Bahnzo
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                            • Jun 2003
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                            #58
                            Re: Killer Whale kills trainer at Sea World

                            Not to be glib, but this is what happens when you try to "tame" wild animals. I feel sorry for the women who was obviously highly regarded in her field. But when you start riding around on whales and having them do tricks and whatnot, you get what you get sometimes. Killer whale indeed.
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                            • davin
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                              • Mar 2004
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                              #59
                              Re: Killer Whale kills trainer at Sea World

                              Count me in the group that thinks the Orca shouldn't be punished. I agree this incident is sad (i actually know part of her family if the local news is correct), but this just highlights the problems with the system. If Orcas really are that intelligent, I imagine I would be pretty pissed if I were them. Put me in an 8x8 glass room and just be used for party tricks, and I am sure I would have a momentary lapse in judgement or an angry moment too. Like others have said, if the animal is called a killer whale, it may be dangerous...

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                              • CMH
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                                • Oct 2002
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                                #60
                                Re: Killer Whale kills trainer at Sea World

                                Originally posted by z Revis

                                Interesting..

                                It was also noted in another article I read that the trainer didn't have any traumatic marks on her. She just had a few scrapes. It's not like the whale tried to eat her.
                                I obviously haven't seen any footage and I don't know what to believe at this point, but I find this article the most trust-worthy.

                                I doubt the killer whale knew that she could not survive being submerged under water for too long. If anything, for it to have continued socializing with her and other trainers for so long, it probably started believing that they were much alike.

                                When I hear about an animal purposely wanting to kill someone or animal, I think about it using its teeth. I realize not all animals do this and killer whales will undoubtedly use their strength to kill other animals, but isn't that done for protection and food? They are intelligent animals, it definitely knew it wasn't in danger. It was probably playing.
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