Ive had about enough of this "online" gaming revolution

[Gotmadskillzson]

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MW2 was fun until people started using modded controllers and aim bots......

Playing against randoms is NEVER fun. I play offline 99% of the time LOL. I just do my thing......

Online for me is just to get demos and expansion packs or patches.

[Pared]

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Online sports gaming has extended the life of many titles for me.

Offline just can't compare to having a solid group of people to play against online.

[mgoblue]

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Online sports gaming has extended the life of many titles for me.

Offline just can't compare to having a solid group of people to play against online.

Yeah...but I know that I personally still favor the single player experience games offline. I enjoy online gaming, but my focus is on the story and whatnot a single player game gives you.

Online leagues and whatnot for sports games are good if you get a solid group, but not sure I'll ever get to the point where I'll play someone random, it's too much of a crap shoot if you get the cheeser who makes the game completely not fun to play.

[23]

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Online still shouldnt be the priority over offline gaming and its core gameplay.

It does seem as if that part of the game is sacrificed for online gaming.

[Graphik]

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I just hate the fact that there aren't any decent sized, immersive and indepth games out given the fact that multiplayer/online is given just as much priority as offline. I also agree with the OP.

Online multiplayer may extend the life of a game but it definitely hurts the offline aspect of it. Every single FPS nowadays needs to have some sort of online component in the mix which strips down any offline campaign and makes it completely bare bones and/or relatively short.

I'm sick of passing up games because the offline mode is shortened, incomplete or not worth the 60 dollar price tag that comes with it. During the last few months I've been searching thoroughly for a decent offline FPS that'll last me over 20 hours offline. And you know what? That type of game is a rare breed. From COD to R6:Vegas, there just aren't many games with a meaningfull single player experience anymore. In some games, SP seems like it was an afterthought to MP and I'm tired of it.

I'm not gonna even mention split screened offline games. Forget about it. If it aint Gears, Tom Clancey games or COD then I'm SOL basically. Split screen is a dying breed. Wierd given the fact that mostly everyone on earth has a HDTV by now and split screened games look much better than on a regular tube tv.

There simply isn't enough strictly offline games that offer depth and a worthwhile offline MP component. If you aint got online capabilities, then you're basically getting the shaft by game companies. Because they are only a handful of games to pick from if you want your moneys worth.

[Brandwin]

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Online sports gaming has extended the life of many titles for me.

Offline just can't compare to having a solid group of people to play against online.

Man, if games don't have online/multiplayer I don't even waste my time buying them. Online has giving games so much more life.

[Graphik]

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Man, if games don't have online/multiplayer I don't even waste my time buying them. Online has giving games so much more life.

I'm the direct opposite. If a game doesn't have a worthwhile SP, then I skip over it. I've skipped over Modern warfare 1 and 2 for this very reason despite how popular the game is. I've read time and time again, the SP is good but short. All the focus is given to online.

This is an prime example of why I feel MP is killing the offline market. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

[CreatineKasey]

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Man, if games don't have online/multiplayer I don't even waste my time buying them. Online has giving games so much more life.

I'm the same. I think the big issue with sports games online is the fact that we're expecting people to emulate reality. Along with that, the anonymity of the internet brings out the worst in people. If people did stupid things in person, you'd just yell at them or whack them over the head. Online, the person can just join another game. I've always thought a great penalty for online griefers would be to disallow matchmaking privileges for a certain duration after they grief.

I've been gaming online since I've been gaming. Because of that, I've kind of developed a tolerance to idiocy. Some of you guys are a bit older than me and probably had better offline experiences than I. I was always the kid yearning for online gaming while I'm giving the CPU a boring beatdown in Tecmo. I remember NFL 95 for the Genesis. I got over 100 sacks in a season with Lloyd. Boring.

Emulating reality comes with different expectations for every person. Madden 10, for example, does do a lot of things right. People may not have the immediate tools to beat certain cheese nor do they want to waste time learning them. I understand that. Some people go overboard IMO, though. Some call cheese when someone comes out in 5 WR on first down as if there's some rule that you need to run a run play out of a base formation on first down.

I go in with an attitude that I'll probably get cheesed, but often I'm playing to figure things out for a league or online franchise. I'll do things such as tweaking a gameplan or trying a new play out.

[Pete1210]

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I just hate the fact that there aren't any decent sized, immersive and indepth games out given the fact that multiplayer/online is given just as much priority as offline. I also agree with the OP.

Online multiplayer may extend the life of a game but it definitely hurts the offline aspect of it. Every single FPS nowadays needs to have some sort of online component in the mix which strips down any offline campaign and makes it completely bare bones and/or relatively short.

I have to disagree. I can't remember any FPS game being over 20 hours long.
COD games have always been on the short side, but still a great ride.
And lately there have been some great RPG/FPS games that are long and immersive, like Mass Effect 1/2, Fallout 3, Borderlands.
The Vegas 1/2 and and GRAW 1/2 had good fairly long singleplayer too.

[Pared]

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... but not sure I'll ever get to the point where I'll play someone random, it's too much of a crap shoot if you get the cheeser who makes the game completely not fun to play.

Arcades used to be like this somewhat. I guess with anonymity comes the "brave" feeling some people get.

I know people wouldn't try half the **** in person that they do in the comfort of their own home.

[Graphik]

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I have to disagree. I can't remember any FPS game being over 20 hours long.
COD games have always been on the short side, but still a great ride.
And lately there have been some great RPG/FPS games that are long and immersive, like Mass Effect 1/2, Fallout 3, Borderlands.
The Vegas 1/2 and and GRAW 1/2 had good fairly long singleplayer too.

You just named the top 3 if not the only 3 FPS with a lengthy SP mode. Besides those games, everything else seems bare in terms of SP.

I would love to play games like MW and Battlefield but they are more geared towards online based off my research.

I mean wouldn't it be nice if there were a few more good games just as long as Fallout or ME? Instead offline players are treated to 2-3 good titles and the rest being online geared like Halo or MW1/2.

There are games that seem to have good offline campaigns but were ruined because alot of focus was taken off of SP and given to MP. Operation Flashpoint being a good example. Good concept but poor execution due to wack teammate AI which made the game barely playable. Farcry 2 could of reached greatness if it wasn't for the predictable Artificial Un-Intellegence displayed by the AI enemies.

Why? Because not enough time was spent making sure the SP playable and I'm sure they were forced to make sure the online components were stable, etc.

This is becoming more of a trend in gaming. Online development taking away from getting the offline game complete. One can point to sports games for a plethora of examples if not some FPS.

[23]

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Graphik is right

[KG]

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Hell, sports games can't even get their online to function normally without any performance issues.

[jeremym480]

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Graphik is right

Graphik is preaching to the choir as far as I'm concerned. If only the game developer's would listen to guys like us.

[ehh]

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Never got the appeal of playing randoms or playing online for that matter. The appeal of Halo's networking stuff back in the day was that we'd get 8-16 (or whatever the max was) on the college's network so we knew every one who was in on it.

Sports games, from everything I've experienced, are a cheese-fest or have lag. There just aren't enough benefits and dynasty/franchise mode online is nowhere near where it needs to be for me to enjoy it.

Dynasty/franchise mode is the king for me. It takes games to another level and elevates the replay value to another level.