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  • JBH3
    Marvel's Finest
    • Jan 2007
    • 13506

    #16
    Re: 7 Year Old Girl Killed During Raid

    Originally posted by TexanWolverine
    The news article I read about this yesterday said the grandmother was restraining officers from entering the residence. You can blame the officers all you want but if they really had nothing to hide why try to prevent SWAT officers from entering your home? Nothing good will ever come out of that.
    Well...if a flash bang was deployed then I'd expect her to be disoriented. Maybe she didn't know they were officers, and thought she was being attacked? Maybe the article was...say...embellishing the truth?
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    • mgoblue678
      MVP
      • Jul 2008
      • 3371

      #17
      Re: 7 Year Old Girl Killed During Raid

      I just don't understand the logic of them throwing a flash bang grenade blindly into the part of the house when the person they were looking for didn't even live in that part. The article implies that there were aware of this fact when they got the warrant.

      I find it hard to believe after a flash bang grenade was throw that the grandmother and everybody else around it wasn't disoriented. I really don't buy that she would have able to offer any significant resistance as she was most likely disoriented. The contact most likely if there was any was probably her bumping into them or them tripping over her when she was disoriented.

      I fully expect even if there is clear evidence that the police acted inappropriately that it would be covered up or made to disappear.
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      • deaduck
        MVP
        • Mar 2009
        • 2389

        #18
        Re: 7 Year Old Girl Killed During Raid

        Well depending on the timing and location, the flash part of the grenade might have went off before anybody was in a position/awake enough to suffer from it. That would limit the degree of disorientation.

        While I have no idea why you'd use one in the part of the duplex that you didn't suspect had your target unless you just had faulty intell from the start, I can follow that you would try and secure both parts of the duplex during the arrest.

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        • Jukeman
          Showtime
          • Aug 2005
          • 10955

          #19
          Re: 7 Year Old Girl Killed During Raid

          Originally posted by deaduck
          Well depending on the timing and location, the flash part of the grenade might have went off before anybody was in a position/awake enough to suffer from it. That would limit the degree of disorientation.

          While I have no idea why you'd use one in the part of the duplex that you didn't suspect had your target unless you just had faulty intell from the start, I can follow that you would try and secure both parts of the duplex during the arrest.


          Yea, Atleast from playing Rainbow Six, I kno to throw a flash bang into the room where the target is and perhaps guard the other doors in the area...

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          • BurghFan
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            • Jul 2009
            • 10043

            #20
            Re: 7 Year Old Girl Killed During Raid

            This is just so sad and unbelievably messed up. I just don't know what else to say.`
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            • ghm125
              john14:6
              • Jul 2002
              • 2439

              #21
              Re: 7 Year Old Girl Killed During Raid

              man just read about this....what a terrible shame.....
              VIOLATION!!!!!!!!

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              • Sublime12089
                The Legendary Roots Crew
                • Jun 2003
                • 1495

                #22
                Re: 7 Year Old Girl Killed During Raid

                And if recent history is any indicator the cops are going to get off with a slap on the wrist at best. They should not have even been in there. If cops got a warrant to enter my home based on an issue I am not even accused of being involved with I would be pissed.... unreasonable search? Is a stupid show about these "heroes" worth all this?

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                • Rawdeal28
                  Swiitch U? lol
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 7407

                  #23
                  Re: 7 Year Old Girl Killed During Raid

                  Originally posted by BIGFOOT999
                  And if recent history is any indicator the cops are going to get off with a slap on the wrist at best. They should not have even been in there. If cops got a warrant to enter my home based on an issue I am not even accused of being involved with I would be pissed.... unreasonable search? Is a stupid show about these "heroes" worth all this?
                  exactly. another reason i hate the cops.
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                  yea but will they take psn cards
                  Depends on what area of a hooker you would use to redeem them.

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                  • Jukeman
                    Showtime
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 10955

                    #24
                    Re: 7 Year Old Girl Killed During Raid

                    Originally posted by Rawdeal28
                    exactly. another reason i hate the cops.
                    It aint the "cops" its the idiots who abuses the power..

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                    • Stumbleweed
                      Livin' the dream
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 6279

                      #25
                      Re: 7 Year Old Girl Killed During Raid

                      It just kinda blows my mind that if I lived in a duplex and unbeknownst to me some dickhead above me has a search warrant out that the cops can apparently legally get a warrant and enter my residence as well since it's "connected". Glad I'm in a single-family home...
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                      • Rawdeal28
                        Swiitch U? lol
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 7407

                        #26
                        Re: 7 Year Old Girl Killed During Raid

                        Originally posted by Jukeman
                        It aint the "cops" its the idiots who abuses the power..
                        a good number of them do abuse it. i have a good friend who is a cop so im not saying all.
                        "on hoping there is a PSN flash sale before Valentine's Day"
                        Man there are no flashers... now what are we going to do for vd
                        I'm sure there's plenty of prostitutes you could pay if you really want vd.
                        yea but will they take psn cards
                        Depends on what area of a hooker you would use to redeem them.

                        lol

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                        • Po Pimp
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 2249

                          #27
                          Re: 7 Year Old Girl Killed During Raid

                          I don't see how anyone could defend the police in this situation. Warrant or not, there was NO excuse to fire the weapon. Were any shots fired other than from the officer? The police said it was an accident...well apologies don't bring the little girl back.

                          What's most annoying is that this is getting NO coverage nationwide. I would not had known about this until a friend emailed me the article. On our local news, they talked about this in the nationwide news brief for about a minute total.

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                          • stewaat

                            #28
                            Re: 7 Year Old Girl Killed During Raid

                            Finger off the trigger outside on the trigger guard

                            That's rule #1

                            Terrible mistake. They will find out who fired the gun and hopefully he is punished accordingly.

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                            • Buckeyes_Doc
                              In Dalton I Trust
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 11918

                              #29
                              Re: 7 Year Old Girl Killed During Raid

                              Originally posted by stewaat
                              Finger off the trigger outside on the trigger guard

                              That's rule #1

                              Terrible mistake. They will find out who fired the gun and hopefully he is punished accordingly.
                              Yep. I'm not a cop but I'm in the military and that is one of the most important things they teach us when dealing with weapons.

                              Just a sad situation. I can't imagine the pain the family is going through right now.

                              And to Dookie what do you mean bring this stuff around their children? The people in the house she was killed had zero to do with the warrant, only that the suspect happened to live upstairs from them in a different unit.
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                              • JBH3
                                Marvel's Finest
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 13506

                                #30
                                Re: 7 Year Old Girl Killed During Raid

                                Originally posted by stewaat
                                Finger off the trigger outside on the trigger guard

                                That's rule #1

                                Terrible mistake. They will find out who fired the gun and hopefully he is punished accordingly.
                                Treat every weapon as if it were loaded.

                                Never point a weapon at anything you do not intend to shoot.

                                Keep your weapon on safe until you are ready to fire.

                                Keep your finger straight and off the trigger until you intend to fire.

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                                Originally posted by Edmund Burke
                                All that is needed for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.

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