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  • Knight165
    *ll St*r
    • Feb 2003
    • 24964

    #46
    Re: 7 Year Old Girl Killed During Raid

    This has to be one of the most asinine threads ever.
    Not the content of the original story....that is tragic...but most of the posts concerning it.
    I'd be LMAO ....if it wasn't such a horrible story to begin with.
    The rest is ridiculous.
    Need proof?.....just look up a bit.
    Absurd.

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    • baumy300
      Most Valuable Pepe
      • May 2005
      • 3998

      #47
      Re: 7 Year Old Girl Killed During Raid

      Originally posted by Bahnzo
      The sad part about this is that stuff like this happens more often than most of you realize. We need to stop storming people's homes with armed soldiers. It starts with the judges allowing the warrants, but it also begins with gung-ho police squads that deem this sort of procedure necessary.
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      • RubenDouglas
        Hall Of Fame
        • May 2003
        • 11202

        #48
        Re: 7 Year Old Girl Killed During Raid

        let's just hope there is some justice.. too often are these cops "cleared" and back to working the streets with their messed up brains (on the mental side of things).. It;s really unfortunate all around.. If a cop gets in a shootout and a death occurs, I think its time for a new job for that guy. I know training happens and counseling but if I were to have accidentially hurt someone, I would have doubts in another similar situation. Judgement calls become blurred. It;s a no win situation for anyone involved.

        If I was too quick to act before, maybe im too slow to act later on.. Liability all around. But theres not enough qualified entrants into the PDs so the recycling continues.

        Sad stuff.

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        • Buckeyes_Doc
          In Dalton I Trust
          • Jan 2009
          • 11918

          #49
          Re: 7 Year Old Girl Killed During Raid

          Originally posted by Bahnzo
          The sad part about this is that stuff like this happens more often than most of you realize. We need to stop storming people's homes with armed soldiers. It starts with the judges allowing the warrants, but it also begins with gung-ho police squads that deem this sort of procedure necessary.
          Tell me how often does it happen? Do you have proof of this? This one went horrible but it was one guy who didn't follow basic weapon safety rules that caused all this, I would say it's safe to say most warrants dont end up with someone innocent killed.
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          • michigan21
            Pro
            • Feb 2005
            • 547

            #50
            Re: 7 Year Old Girl Killed During Raid

            Originally posted by Alliball
            I don't remember there being this much outrage about the 4 cops that were gunned down in cold blood while doing paperwork in a restaurant.

            Guess it sucks to be a cop all around, damned if you do damned if you don't.
            Exactly. Im a man of color and have been racially profiled countless times. But growing up down the road from Detroit and spending quite a bit of time there I can tell you Detroit cops are in a warzone literally. If youve never spent time or lived there you have no ideal how hard those cops have it. Of course I feel bad for the little girl, but there have been numerous little girls killed in the crossfire in Detroit.
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            • Jukeman
              Showtime
              • Aug 2005
              • 10955

              #51
              Re: 7 Year Old Girl Killed During Raid

              Thread goes downhill from post #43 smdh...

              and the post above is pathetic..

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              • JBH3
                Marvel's Finest
                • Jan 2007
                • 13506

                #52
                Re: 7 Year Old Girl Killed During Raid

                Originally posted by Alliball
                I don't remember there being this much outrage about the 4 cops that were gunned down in cold blood while doing paperwork in a restaurant.
                How many 7 yr olds have wronged a person in their lifetime?

                If people don't show 'outrage' over police I can emphathize...maybe they were victimized by an officer, treated unfairly, who knows.

                7 year olds on the other hand do not hurt anyone, nor have had an opportunity to. Not saying those officers deserved their fate, nor that I wouldn't feel sympathy for them...but I can see why others would not.

                Originally posted by Alliball
                Guess it sucks to be a cop all around, damned if you do damned if you don't.
                No one becomes a cop looking for public praise, if that's a reason for joining then one needs to re-evaluate their goals.

                Originally posted by michigan21
                Exactly. Im a man of color and have been racially profiled countless times. But growing up down the road from Detroit and spending quite a bit of time there I can tell you Detroit cops are in a warzone literally. If youve never spent time or lived there you have no ideal how hard those cops have it. Of course I feel bad for the little girl, but there have been numerous little girls killed in the crossfire in Detroit.
                Maybe this is poorly worded? Sounds like you're justifying this tragedy because DET is 'rough'. There is no justification, and actually what you illustrate above is even MORE reason for DET police to be vigilant in upholding the highest standard of safety and professionalism.

                Seems like the cops are just as sloopy as the city...
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                • ScoobySnax
                  #faceuary2014
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 7624

                  #53
                  Re: 7 Year Old Girl Killed During Raid

                  Originally posted by JBH3
                  How many 7 yr olds have wronged a person in their lifetime?

                  If people don't show 'outrage' over police I can emphathize...maybe they were victimized by an officer, treated unfairly, who knows.

                  7 year olds on the other hand do not hurt anyone, nor have had an opportunity to. Not saying those officers deserved their fate, nor that I wouldn't feel sympathy for them...but I can see why others would not.



                  No one becomes a cop looking for public praise, if that's a reason for joining then one needs to re-evaluate their goals.



                  Maybe this is poorly worded? Sounds like you're justifying this tragedy because DET is 'rough'. There is no justification, and actually what you illustrate above is even MORE reason for DET police to be vigilant in upholding the highest standard of safety and professionalism.

                  Seems like the cops are just as sloppy as the city...
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                  • jmood88
                    Sean Payton: Retribution
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 34639

                    #54
                    Re: 7 Year Old Girl Killed During Raid

                    Originally posted by BIGFOOT999
                    And if recent history is any indicator the cops are going to get off with a slap on the wrist at best. They should not have even been in there. If cops got a warrant to enter my home based on an issue I am not even accused of being involved with I would be pissed.... unreasonable search? Is a stupid show about these "heroes" worth all this?
                    They'll be suspended with pay pending an investigation, then found not guilty.
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                    • jmood88
                      Sean Payton: Retribution
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 34639

                      #55
                      Re: 7 Year Old Girl Killed During Raid

                      Originally posted by Jukeman
                      Yet Tiger Woods makes CNN...

                      Our Society is backwards..
                      I saw the story on CNN this morning.

                      Originally posted by Alliball
                      I don't remember there being this much outrage about the 4 cops that were gunned down in cold blood while doing paperwork in a restaurant.
                      You must not have been paying attention cause that was all over the news and every police officer in that city made sure to find the guy who did it.

                      Originally posted by stewatt
                      Bottom line is that the cop f'd up BIG TIME.

                      However everybody here needs to realize it WAS an accident. I'm not saying the officer sould be let off the hook...but if you all think he went in there and hunted down a 7-year old girl you need to calm down for a second and think about what really happened.

                      This isn't 1st degree murder...it was a poor action that will haunt this guy for the rest of his life. If you don't think for one second he could take back the instant you're crazy. Also nothing will bring back the little girl.

                      We don't know all the specifics yet to fully say what this guy needs to face legally.
                      I don't think that there's any sane person who believes that the guy was going out to kill a little girl but there are too many times where "errors in judgment" by the police ends up with someone badly hurt or killed and they never get punished for it all while people try to preach about how the police have it so hard. I don't want a guy who apparently shoots without thinking to be patrolling the streets with a gun. Being a police officer, especially in a city like Detroit, is hard but they know what they're getting into. That little girl had no idea that some guy would shoot her in the neck while she was in her own home.
                      Last edited by jmood88; 05-18-2010, 12:51 PM.
                      Originally posted by Blzer
                      Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                      If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                      • Knight165
                        *ll St*r
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 24964

                        #56
                        Re: 7 Year Old Girl Killed During Raid

                        Originally posted by Jukeman
                        Thread goes downhill from post #43 smdh...

                        and the post above is pathetic..
                        Riiiight....cause it was just so lofty and coherent pre-post #43.
                        The comedic effect, although absolutely unintentional with these threads is pretty good.....and always predictable.
                        Unfortunately, it's one of the few weak areas of O.S.

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                        Knight165
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                        • Jukeman
                          Showtime
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 10955

                          #57
                          Re: 7 Year Old Girl Killed During Raid

                          Originally posted by Knight165
                          Riiiight....cause it was just so lofty and coherent pre-post #43.
                          The comedic effect, although absolutely unintentional with these threads is pretty good.....and always predictable.
                          Unfortunately, it's one of the few weak areas of O.S.

                          M.K.
                          Knight165
                          So you accept this tactic minus the death of a child???

                          Do you still agree with this same tactic after the fact the little girl was lit on fire(before she was shot and killed) by the use of a flash bang???

                          Except for what not even a hanful of colorful post, this thread is hardy foolish...Most post were about the tactic or the lil girl..

                          Just like guys here are quick o say "I hate cops" many people also are quick to defend anything a cop does...Its ridiculous and it happens in every thread and any topic...

                          If I would have posted a story and a police officer telling a lie about a man shooting him, just so he can get transfered to a different district, I wonder how many will justify that...Or try to reverse tgings to make a meaningless point???

                          @Jmood yeah thanks to the internet..
                          Last edited by Jukeman; 05-18-2010, 02:07 PM.

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                          • Segagendude
                            Banned
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 7940

                            #58
                            Re: 7 Year Old Girl Killed During Raid

                            Sad story indeed...

                            Whatever happened to "Knock knock knock.....police officers, open the door!"


                            I started getting hooked on "The First 48". I'll still watch, but this incident will now be in the back of my mind...

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                            • stewaat

                              #59
                              Re: 7 Year Old Girl Killed During Raid

                              Originally posted by jmood88
                              I don't think that there's any sane person who believes that the guy was going out to kill a little girl but there are too many times where "errors in judgment" by the police ends up with someone badly hurt or killed and they never get punished for it all while people try to preach about how the police have it so hard. I don't want a guy who apparently shoots without thinking to be patrolling the streets with a gun. Being a police officer, especially in a city like Detroit, is hard but they know what they're getting into. That little girl had no idea that some guy would shoot her in the neck while she was in her own home.
                              I agree.

                              I never defended this guy for the record nor will I. Whatever procedure they had in place is sure to be changed. Whoever authorized this should be disciplined as well.

                              Jukeman - the tactic was bad, resulted in a tragic death, and should result in the firing and criminal prosecution of the person who killed the girl with several heads rolling.

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                              • Jackdog
                                Wolverine Soldier
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 7719

                                #60
                                Re: 7 Year Old Girl Killed During Raid

                                Once again some of you prove that OS can't handle this type of discussion in a civil manner. Closed.
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