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  • Speedy
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    • Apr 2008
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    #121
    Re: College Degrees --> Overrated

    Originally posted by mKoz26
    That's not what he said.
    The ex-girl thought/said it.
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    • mKoz26
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      • Jan 2009
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      #122
      Re: College Degrees --> Overrated

      Originally posted by Speedy
      The ex-girl thought/said it.
      No, he said she was disappointed she made less than a non-college grad as a college grad. It was the pay relative to his, not just the figure.
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      • Brankles
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        • May 2003
        • 5113

        #123
        Re: College Degrees --> Overrated

        You don't need to have a college degree to be successful.

        In fact, we need more blue collar workers who are properly trained in their trade instead of more lawyers and doctors.

        I'm in law school right now and I'm not necessarily here because I want to be a lawyer/politician/etc. I'm here because our economy sucks and hopefully by the time my class graduates, it will recover.

        In fact, I do have a business idea in mind and I think just having a law degree will give me the appearance of being smart and more likely to succeed (which based on lawyers I know and classmates isn't necessarily true.) I'm not telling you all of this as a means of justifying my actions, just that it's important that you make moves in your life that gives you more options down the road.

        Going to college gives you more options than a high school drop out. You can always start a business or work a blue collar job out of college, the same as those with less education than you. You can always go into sales, civil service or the military, all things that don't really require a college degree. But without a college degree, many other opportunities will not be available to you. Not everyone is going to be an entrepeneur, genius high school dropout who starts a company from the ground up. You can find dozens of stories about them, but realistically that's not going to help you too much if you have no idea what you're doing.

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        • jeremym480
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          • Oct 2008
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          #124
          Re: College Degrees --> Overrated

          Originally posted by mKoz26
          No, he said she was disappointed she made less than a non-college grad as a college grad. It was the pay relative to his, not just the figure.
          Exactly. I guess I should have left the number out of it (but since I didn't) sure 35k is probably great to most people but, in all actuality it's probably close to what the average American makes. As for her, she was a single mom, (who's baby daddy was long gone) living in Pensacola, FL, with a one bedroom apartment, a $250 car payment and a couple of CC bills. She ended up having to get a second job at the Macaroni Grill just to make ends meet. That's probably not the ideal life for someone who spent 6-7 years in college.
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          • Scottdau
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            • Feb 2003
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            #125
            Re: College Degrees --> Overrated

            It goes like this employers looked at degrees as the person can finish something they started and can stay commitment to get that degree. That goes a long way in their eyes. A lot of job will train you the way they want to. So experience is not always what they are looking for.

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            • Fresh Tendrils
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              • Jul 2002
              • 36131

              #126
              Re: College Degrees --> Overrated

              Originally posted by Scottdau
              It goes like this employers looked at degrees as the person can finish something they started and can stay commitment to get that degree. That goes a long way in their eyes. A lot of job will train you the way they want to. So experience is not always what they are looking for.
              Exactly. Years of service with a single company goes a very long way and could outweigh years of experience in certain situations.



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              • Gotmadskillzson
                Live your life
                • Apr 2008
                • 23432

                #127
                Re: College Degrees --> Overrated

                Average salary depends on where you live, because 35k isn't the average salary nationwide that is for damn sure. And how far you can stretch 35k a year depends on where you live at too.

                Because up in Vermont, 35k goes a long way. I am talking you living in a 3 bedroom house with an acre sized yard off that salary. But if you lived in Chicago, New York or LA, 35k and you will be living in an apartment building somewhere.

                When I lived in the midwest I was considered average upper middle class. Out here on the east coast in New England.....I am considered rich elite class with the same salary.

                Price of living out here is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy cheaper then Chicago.

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                • Beantown
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                  • Feb 2005
                  • 31523

                  #128
                  Re: College Degrees --> Overrated

                  Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
                  Price of living out here is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy cheaper then Chicago.
                  In Vermont, maybe. Boston is a whole different story.

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                  • Gotmadskillzson
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                    • Apr 2008
                    • 23432

                    #129
                    Re: College Degrees --> Overrated

                    My brother in law is from Boston and they drive back there every weekend. Boston freaks my wife out, she says the streets is too narrow LOL.

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                    • Beantown
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                      • Feb 2005
                      • 31523

                      #130
                      Re: College Degrees --> Overrated

                      Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
                      My brother in law is from Boston and they drive back there every weekend. Boston freaks my wife out, she says the streets is too narrow LOL.
                      Truthfully, if you're not from the area or not used to driving with the insane Boston drivers, it's best to leave your car somewhere and find public transportation through the city.

                      Driving through most of Boston is insane. Even I hate doing it if I can avoid it.

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                      • jeremym480
                        Speak it into existence
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 18198

                        #131
                        Re: College Degrees --> Overrated

                        Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
                        Average salary depends on where you live, because 35k isn't the average salary nationwide that is for damn sure. And how far you can stretch 35k a year depends on where you live at too.

                        Because up in Vermont, 35k goes a long way. I am talking you living in a 3 bedroom house with an acre sized yard off that salary. But if you lived in Chicago, New York or LA, 35k and you will be living in an apartment building somewhere.

                        When I lived in the midwest I was considered average upper middle class. Out here on the east coast in New England.....I am considered rich elite class with the same salary.

                        Price of living out here is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy cheaper then Chicago.
                        Yes, I agree. I grew up in a very small town in Alabama. There's only about 1500 people in the entire town. If I were single and still lived there I could live very comfortably making 35k a year.
                        However, I don't think that I would ever be able to afford to live in Baton Rouge. Here a decent one bedroom apartment if going to run $900-1000/mo. I probably wouldn't be able to make it without either a second job, a roommate or living in the ghetto. I image places like Chicago and Boston are much, much worse.

                        I guess that I'm going off-topic a bit so, I'll stop there.
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                        • buckeyefan78
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                          • Mar 2008
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                          #132
                          Re: College Degrees --> Overrated

                          Originally posted by Scottdau
                          It goes like this employers looked at degrees as the person can finish something they started and can stay commitment to get that degree. That goes a long way in their eyes. A lot of job will train you the way they want to. So experience is not always what they are looking for.
                          This is very true but at the same time I firmly believe it's a huge mistake to believe this line of thought.

                          Having spent decades in education I can honestly say the current "process" of getting a college degree actually makes one lazy/apathetic and if possible...dumb...in many if not most cases.
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                          • superjames1992
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                            • Jun 2007
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                            #133
                            Re: College Degrees --> Overrated

                            If I made $35K per year in Liberia, I'd be one of the people in the country! That's the way to look at things!

                            Hell, I'd be filthy rich if I made $1K per year there, probably.
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                            • The GIGGAS
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                              • Mar 2003
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                              #134
                              Re: College Degrees --> Overrated

                              Originally posted by superjames1992
                              If I made $35K per year in Liberia, I'd be one of the people in the country!
                              While that is true, that is a completely useless conclusion.

                              A poor showing.

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                              • superjames1992
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                                #135
                                Re: College Degrees --> Overrated

                                Originally posted by The GIGGAS
                                While that is true, that is a completely useless conclusion.

                                A poor showing.

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                                Basically, I was just saying that cost of living makes all the difference in the world at how much money you make. Making $35K makes you pretty badly off in NYC, makes you lower middle class in rural USA, but will make you filthy rich in the poorest places of the world.

                                $35K in London would make you really bad off. That would only be like 20K ₤ or so.
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