Any more lockouts and I'm done.

[EnigmaNemesis]

Re: Any more lockouts and I'm done.

I don't want this thread to turn into something that I never intended for it to turn into, but I guess when you create somewhat of a controversial topic, these things happen.

For the record, and in all honesty, this was never about what they have versus what I don't have. They can spend their money how they want. I am very fortunate to have the life and living that I do. I really don't want this thread to head in that direction.

My perspective is simple. Any more lockouts, and I'm going to have a tough time coming back. Not because the athletes are trying to get more money, but rather because the fans and employees who are not athletes will suffer. I invest time, energy and money into pro sports. As I mentioned before, I share Seahawks' season tickets with my brother, I go to Mariner games sparingly and I buy sports apparel for my teams. Pro sports, at least the NFL and MLB, are things I invest something of worth in. By choosing to not support them anymore if a lockout(s) occurs, I am only discontinuing the use of a product that I am unhappy with. People do that all the time with things - restaurants, retail stores, video games, etc... It's really no different.

That's the best way that I can explain it.

I know exactly what you mean in that regards. It simplest of terms, and nobody can argue this with a straight face... they are being VERY selfish (owners and players) to their already well taken care of needs, and not even thinking about who is the backbone to their success and paychecks (us fans) and definitely not showing any concern for the well being of the "middle class" and "lower middle" class that is employed by the leagues and teams, that will suffer and not be able to put food on their table.

[RAZRr1275]

Re: Any more lockouts and I'm done.

As far as the recession side and special skills thing the same things spills over in normal society. If you have a skill that society deems "special" whether that's athletics, or ability in a job that society deems "important" you're probably going to end up with a lot of money. It's not that much different. Same thing as far as the low number of people that can get in. It's not really this absurd system that people think it is.

[RAZRr1275]

Re: Any more lockouts and I'm done.

That's kind of my question, too. I'm in the 40-50K range. I'm fairly young and support my wife and son. I have a mortgage that is very manageable and don't have any car payments. We live within our means and yet, times are tough. We can pay our bills and we do without the extras most of the time, but saving money has proven to be hard. Maybe I need to take a harder look at our finances. We're not broke, but sometimes it feels like it.

They don't worry about any of that. But I'd be lying if I didn't admit that some of these posts have made me see a bit of a different perspective, but not much has changed. I still don't think I could watch/support pro sports if more work stoppages are to occur.

Sorry for double post but i just saw this.

I think the rich want to get richer because the idea behind the money changes. It changes from providing for your self/family to achieving a greater status. Once that richest people list gets ever closer and you get more opportunities to improve your status you take them. Also for some it could just be an accident. You get a lot of money so you burn it on stocks - your investments pay off and you get richer.

[sharks]

Re: Any more lockouts and I'm done.

I never thought I would have to worry about this considering the NHL recently had a lockout. Now that Fehr has been hired a lockout in 2012 is bound to happen. I don't think I will come back after that one. I already came back after the first one, and the game is better, but I cannot stomach another one.

I will be a hockey fan but not an NHL fan. I'll watch other hockey where the players play to win and not for the money.

Honestly it's quite disgusting to me that millionaires have the guts to complain about salary. What's more disturbing is that players are willing to strike or have the owners lock them out just because their demands are not met. So much for playing the game they 'love'. They love it so much that they are willing to not play for a whole season?

I just can't believe that NHL players have the guts to allow another lockout to happen.