Is drinking a lot of milk healthy?

[Knight165]

Re: Is drinking a lot of milk healthy?

I would say yes, considering you are arguing against milk making bones strong while bringing up a nervous system disorder. I would say genetics plays the bulk of the role in MS considering the places (based on your map) with the highest European risk just happens to be the largest ethnic source of the US/Canadian areas of highest risk.

Yeah....I'm not sure of the real correlation between milk and MS.
I have a friend who suffers from MS....she and her parents have been TRUE vegans for basically their entire lives....NO dairy.
Her mother does not suffer from MS, yet she developed it around 20 y.o.
She never drank any milk other than soy...never ate a burger...
Don't blame the cows.

Me....I'm a big milk drinker myself...whole...2%......half and half with my coffee. Whatever
I'm rather healthy and what do you know?...I cut out the rest of the **** I've been eating and in 2 years went from a 44 inch waist to a 34(soon to be 32) inch waist with no problem.
All while drinking milk....so the flabby belly attributed to milk might be a stretch as well.
There are countless things that will effect your health and pinning it on one thing is a little off IMO.

That being said....I would probably cut down on the consumption by at least half.
Like others said.....too much of anything is probably pushing it.

M.K.
Knight165

[dickey1331]

Re: Is drinking a lot of milk healthy?

I think it may be too much but hey their are many things you could be drinking that are worse.

[AUChase]

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I couldn't begin to imagine how much my stomache would hurt if I drank that much milk every day.

[EnigmaNemesis]

I only eat cereal every so often, but when I do I use soy milk. Silk brand, original flavor.

Not only does it contain zero cholesterol or saturated fat, it also only has half the calories of cow's milk.

It also lasts a LOT longer in your refrigerator before spoiling since it doesn't contain animal products.

Plus, I think it tastes pretty damn good.

Try Silk's Almond Milk. You will love it. Original is great and the dark chocolate is even better with anti-oxidants. Bangin'! And healthier than soy with all the same non cholesterol or saturated fats. Great vitamins and calcium, etc.

As for the MS correlation, I think he meant "osteoporosis". Which milk has been linked to not prevent but to actually worsen. I can see the mishap.

MS is a nerve disorder linked to pesticides and GMO crops. Guess what the number one GMO and pesticide absorbed crop in the world is? Soybeans, at 90% of the worlds crop being pesticide and GMO.

Sadly we did not learn as much about it until the last several years. So if you consume soy, make sure it is all organic non-GMO. It is like taking in poison otherwise. Pesticides are neurotoxins.

[Weeks]

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Lol, I drink a lot of milk also. Not whole milk though, 1 or 2%.

Reminds me of the time I tried GOMAD (gallon of milk a day), only got a couple days thru. Not because I couldn't but because I didn't want to buy so much milk...

On school days I drink approximately 50 ounces of milk a day

And I pretty much only drink chocolate milk

[RockinDaMike]

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Here is one article I read where there is a correlation between drinking cows milk and MS. Yes you can get MS if you don't drink milk but its pretty prevalent in countries that do have cows milk as a staple to their diet.

http://drmcdougall.com/misc/2009nl/jan/ms.htm

The Disease

MS is an autoimmune disease—one in which the body attacks itself—in this case the immune system attacks the tissues of the brain and spinal cord (more specifically, the myelin sheaths surrounding the nerve fibers). Isolated areas become intensely inflamed with sores. In time, the damaged tissues heal, but often leave thickened, fibrous scars (scleroses), which doctors commonly call “plaques.”

The diagnosis is most often made between the ages of 15 and 50, with women three times more likely than men to develop MS. The initial and subsequent attacks can last one to three months. During an attack the patient experiences visual disturbances, weakness, clumsiness, spasticity, fatigue, numbness, tingling, problems with thinking, slurred speech, pain, depression, difficulty swallowing, bladder and bowel incontinence, and/or sexual difficulties. Rather than on any fancy tests, the diagnosis is based upon a patient's history and the physician’s examination. Apparently random damage to the nervous system—as if an inexpert marksman shot bullets at the brain and spine—is the hallmark of MS. Sophisticated technologies, like magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) of the brain and associated areas, can help with the diagnosis and show the size and location of active lesions and plaques.

Patients are most often classified as having one of two forms of MS: “relapsing-remitting” characterized by intermittent attacks; and “primary-progressive” with a steady, but usually slow, decline. Actually these “doctor-invented” subtypes are just different stages of the same disease. Usually (80% of the time) at the beginning of the disease the attacks seem to come and go, but in time most cases become progressive. Those patients who appear to start with a progressive decline (20%) have simply skipped the more common initial appearance of relapse and remittance.1 These artificial categories can be counterproductive, leading to false reassurance and unwarranted despair, and do not predict the prognosis or improve the chances of an effective treatment for the patient.1,2 Even with the use of the most modern medications, costing $20,000 a year, the future prospect is dismal with half of those people afflicted with MS unable to walk unassisted, bedridden, wheelchair bound, or dead within 10 years of diagnosis.2-6 The absolute advantage for slowing disability with the use of the most popular medications (interferon beta) is clinically small (8%), and the costs and side effects are huge.7,8 The lack of substantial benefits from current drug therapies is one more important reason I picked MS to study.

The Cause

Worldwide, multiple sclerosis is common in Canada, the United States and northern Europe; and rare in Africa, Japan, and other Asian countries. This difference most likely reflects the populations’ different diets (animal- vs. starch-based). Scientists have found a very strong positive correlation when consumption of cow's milk is compared with the incidence of MS worldwide.9,10 One theory proposes that cow’s milk consumed in infancy lays the foundation for injuries to the nervous system that appear later in life.11 Cow’s milk contains one fifth as much of an essential fat, called linoleic acid, as does human mother's milk. Children raised on a linoleic acid-deficient, high-animal fat diet—as are most kids in our modern affluent society—are quite possibly starting life out with a damaged nervous system, susceptible to insults and injuries in later life. The possible sources of injury that can precipitate the attacks of multiple sclerosis in mid-life are suspected to be viruses, allergic reactions, and/or disturbances of the flow of blood to the brain caused by a high-fat diet.

The most commonly held theory these days proposes an autoimmune basis for this disease. MS has much in common with autoimmune type-1 diabetes mellitus, including nearly-identical ethnic and geographic distribution, and genetic factors.12,13 The damage to the nervous system may occur through a process known as molecular mimicry. In susceptible people, cow’s milk protein may enter the bloodstream from the intestine. The body recognizes this as a foreign protein, like a virus or bacteria, and makes antibodies against it. Unfortunately, these antibodies are not specific only to the cow’s milk protein; they find similar proteins in the nervous system (the myelin). The antibodies attach to these nerve tissues and destroy them. In the case of diabetes, the antibodies looking for cow's milk protein attack the insulin-producing cells of the pancreas.

[EnigmaNemesis]

Thanks for the article.

People have to remember, most "healthy for you" studies by products in the industry, are usually most of the time not independent. And done by the industry themselves. Marketing mostly.

Then Independent studies come out and prove a ton of false statements.

Remember, smoking was "good for you" at one time too. Until the whistle blowers blew.

[Sublime12089]

Try Silk's Almond Milk. You will love it. Original is great and the dark chocolate is even better with anti-oxidants. Bangin'! And healthier than soy with all the same non cholesterol or saturated fats. Great vitamins and calcium, etc.

Yea, that's what I am drinking now. Not a huge fan, too nutty for me to drink by itself, which I love soy milk for. It's fine in a protein shake or on cereal which is what I mostly use it for. Also, while not quite as healthy, if you want sweet coconut milk is good also.

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[55]

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Remember, smoking was "good for you" at one time too. Until the whistle blowers blew.

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It still trips me out when I watch old movies and see someone go into a doctor's office and the doctor is smoking right in the examination room while asking the patient, "So, what seems to be the problem?"

[EnigmaNemesis]

Yea, that's what I am drinking now. Not a huge fan, too nutty for me to drink by itself, which I love soy milk for. It's fine in a protein shake or on cereal which is what I mostly use it for. Also, while not quite as healthy, if you want sweet coconut milk is good also.

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Yeah. The chocolate one is easy on it's own. I usually use it mainly in shakes!

Original or Chocolate. 8-10 ounces.
1 banana
Tbs of flax seed flour
Tbs chia seeds
2-3 tbs natural peanut butter (not that skippy/jif sugar crap)

Some ice and blend. Freeze super ripened bananas and put a frozen one in instead of a non frozen one and it is even more ice creamy!

[Knight165]

Re: Is drinking a lot of milk healthy?

Here is one article I read where there is a correlation between drinking cows milk and MS. Yes you can get MS if you don't drink milk but its pretty prevalent in countries that do have cows milk as a staple to their diet.

http://drmcdougall.com/misc/2009nl/jan/ms.htm

Well...that's one group that focused on cow's milk as a potential cause.
If you research causes of MS....you will find everything from Epstein-Barr to CCSVI to diet to stress....trauma....LATITUDE of your origin and living....have all been looked at as possible causes. There are MANY things that exist and are prevalent in those areas and not in other regions that may be factors.
Milk...is just another theory.
Truth is.....nobody knows.

M.K.
Knight165

[EnigmaNemesis]

Personally I believe it is all the food we eat in society. Laced with neurological pesticides, growth hormones, GMO's, arsenic, etc.

The rise of all this was the rise of food manufacturing process. Food is your health. And the majority of the food out there truly is toxic in the long run.

[Candyman5]

Yikes at the MS thing, my mom has MS so I know the horror of it.

[24]

Re: Is drinking a lot of milk healthy?

The only time I really have milk is in my cereal or occasionally with a couple of Oreos.

[55]

Re: Is drinking a lot of milk healthy?

Drinking milk is really healthy...

False.

Consuming any liquids with that many calories is absolutely terrible no matter how you try to spin it.

EDIT- You're just a spam account anyway. Nice sig.