Off Topic 2013

[ImTellinTim]

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Bandwagon jumpers/casual fans make up a large percentage of the viewing public. NBA Finals ratings would take a huge hit if Miami lost last night.

True, but like it was said, those aren't the people bitching about parity.

[areobee401]

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The NBA is the one league where lack of parity doesn't bother me all that much. I'd rather see Heat/Spurs instead of Pacers/Grizzles play in the finals.

Professional basketball needs its biggest stars in the biggest games to really keep me interested. Whereas I can watch a day's worth of MLB, NHL, or NFL playoff games regardless of who's playing.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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My biggest hang-up with the NBA is how laser focused they are on promoting a handful of players, but fail to really promote teams as a whole much less project players in markets that would definitely benefit from the exposure.

I would have loved to see the Spurs/Grizzlies play against the Pacers because Stern wouldn't know how to market the series since it wouldn't include Kevin Durant or LeBron James. And while Duncan is a GOAT type of player he's not that big of a celebrity.

[Redacted01]

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The NBA is the one league where lack of parity doesn't bother me all that much. I'd rather see Heat/Spurs instead of Pacers/Grizzles play in the finals.

Professional basketball needs its biggest stars in the biggest games to really keep me interested. Whereas I can watch a day's worth of MLB, NHL, or NFL playoff games regards of who's playing.

Never going to get new stars if you have the same rehash year after year. You know how many different NBA teams have won a championship since 1984? We're talking 30 years of championships here, including this year since Miami and San Antonio are another rehash of the last decade or so. 8.

EIGHT!

Boston, LA, Detroit, Chicago, Houston, San Antonio, Miami, Dallas.

In that same 30 year span, MLB has managed 19 different World Series champions, the NHL has managed 14 different Stanley Cup champions, and the NFL has had 15 different Super Bowl champions.

So you can watch the other leagues no problem, despite a revolving door of contenders, but you can only watch the NBA as long as the same set of teams are winning? Hey, maybe you'd find out Marc Gasol and Roy Hibbert are stars if they actually got there instead of seeing Duncan, James, Wade, Durant, etc... shoved down our throats.

[BlueNGold]

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The highest quality of television is on at this time of the day.

[areobee401]

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Never going to get new stars if you have the same rehash year after year. You know how many different NBA teams have won a championship since 1984? We're talking 30 years of championships here, including this year since Miami and San Antonio are another rehash of the last decade or so. 8.

EIGHT!

Boston, LA, Detroit, Chicago, Houston, San Antonio, Miami, Dallas.

In that same 30 year span, MLB has managed 19 different World Series champions, the NHL has managed 14 different Stanley Cup champions, and the NFL has had 15 different Super Bowl champions.

So you can watch the other leagues no problem, despite a revolving door of contenders, but you can only watch the NBA as long as the same set of teams are winning?

Yes, because the postseason product is better in the other 3 professional leagues. There's not much else there to pull me into watching NBA playoff games without the top stars.

I'm checking out if my Celtics aren't playing or the biggest stars in the league aren't involved. Not saying I won't tune in for the 4th quarter but won't be investing an entire 3 hours of my night to watch a whole game.

Oh, and I know who Marc Gasol and Roy Hibbert are. Just don't need to see them matched up against in other in the NBA Finals. Not my idea of must see TV. I simply don't care for the NBA enough.

[rspencer86]

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The highest quality of television is on at this time of the day.

The only thing I can think of is Price is Right, but then, what else do you really need?

[C the Lyte]

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Never going to get new stars if you have the same rehash year after year. You know how many different NBA teams have won a championship since 1984? We're talking 30 years of championships here, including this year since Miami and San Antonio are another rehash of the last decade or so. 8.

EIGHT!

Boston, LA, Detroit, Chicago, Houston, San Antonio, Miami, Dallas.

In that same 30 year span, MLB has managed 19 different World Series champions, the NHL has managed 14 different Stanley Cup champions, and the NFL has had 15 different Super Bowl champions.

So you can watch the other leagues no problem, despite a revolving door of contenders, but you can only watch the NBA as long as the same set of teams are winning? Hey, maybe you'd find out Marc Gasol and Roy Hibbert are stars if they actually got there instead of seeing Duncan, James, Wade, Durant, etc... shoved down our throats.

Hibbert and Gasol are All-stars, not superstars like James, Wade, and Durant. You can't polish a turd. The Association can't create superstars IMO. That's why these superstars in the league now are @ a premium, they are rare to find. Off the top of my head, there are probably 8 of these guys in the Association active.

They are more common in other sports, IMO-although still rare.

[C the Lyte]

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Yes, because the postseason product is better in the other 3 professional leagues. There's not much else there to pull me into watching NBA playoff games without the top stars.

I'm checking out if my Celtics aren't playing or the biggest stars in the league aren't involved. Not saying I won't tune in for the 4th quarter but won't be investing an entire 3 hours of my night to watch a whole game.

Oh, and I know who Marc Gasol and Roy Hibbert are. Just don't need to see them matched up against in other in the NBA Finals. Not my idea of must see TV. I simply don't care for the NBA enough.

That matchup would've been a fascinating Finals for a couple reasons. It would have been a trainwreck for the NBA television-wise.

But for an absolute physical and ugly style of play, I think I would've thoroughly enjoyed that one. Both teams averaging 70 - 80 pts a game! The match ups would've been great to see.

[TracerBullet]

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Hibbert and Gasol are All-stars, not superstars like James, Wade, and Durant. You can't polish a turd. The Association can't create superstars IMO. That's why these superstars in the league now are @ a premium, they are rare to find. Off the top of my head, there are probably 8 of these guys in the Association active.

They are more common in other sports, IMO-although still rare.

Which is why you would think it would make more sense for them to market teams more, yet they do it less than any other sport.

[C the Lyte]

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Which is why you would think it would make more sense for them to market teams more, yet they do it less than any other sport.

Can't polish a turd.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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Can't polish a turd.

Well, obviously nobody is wanting to promote the Bobcats or Kings, but the Pacers, Grizzlies, Bulls, and other teams deserve more spotlight and promotion on sports networks than the 24/7 LeBron James Headline Machine or focusing on the Lakers implosion (which is kind of interesting to watch unfold, but not at the expense losing attention of the successes of other teams).

[C the Lyte]

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Well, obviously nobody is wanting to promote the Bobcats or Kings, but the Pacers, Grizzlies, Bulls, and other teams deserve more spotlight and promotion on sports networks than the 24/7 LeBron James Headline Machine or focusing on the Lakers implosion (which is kind of interesting to watch unfold, but not at the expense losing attention of the successes of other teams).

ESPN is LBJ central. I'll give you that, but he has earned that spot also. He's a top 5 name among all sports now.

I think they will try with Paul George's "success" from these playoffs. The Bulls will get more with Rose.

I disagree with you on the Grizz though. They are a very good team, and capable. However, who on that team is marketable? Everyone loves shiny and new ferraris and porsches (sp?). Not everyone is wanting to see a brand new dump truck.

[VTPack919]

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ESPN is LBJ central. I'll give you that, but he has earned that spot also. He's a top 5 name among all sports now.

I think they will try with Paul George's "success" from these playoffs. The Bulls will get more with Rose.

I disagree with you on the Grizz though. They are a very good team, and capable. However, who on that team is marketable? Everyone loves shiny and new ferraris and porsches (sp?). Not everyone is wanting to see a brand new dump truck.

The success of the team itself should surpass any individual on the team's marketability.

[C the Lyte]

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But it doesn't.

That's what the NHL, NFL, and MLB are for. For the most part, they can use their teams for promotion.

A great team in the NBA is just that... a great team.

But a great player transcends even a decent team, even if they were moderately successful.