Input on indoor smoking needed

[Champion8877]

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But what about in my 32 years I've walked past one person a day for 5 seconds who smoke? 😄

I really doubt that while walking past somebody outside who is smoking, you would inhale any noticeable amount of smoke. At this point it is really no better or worse for you than being in a parking lot where exhaust fumes from cars are mixing with the air. Unless they are blowing the smoke directly into your mouth or nostrils, it really won't do a thing to you. Second hand smoke is pretty much only going to effect you if your in a car or room with somebody smoking. Outdoors I highly doubt any smoke is getting into your lungs by simply walking past a smoker.

[Brandwin]

I was just being a jerk. Thought the smiley would show that.

[Champion8877]

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I was just being a jerk. Thought the smiley would show that.

My bad lol, thought you were being serious.

[Segagendude]

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My final response before exiting this thread:

To answer the question at hand: I've learned to adjust to the new indoor smoking ban here in Vegas. I only frequent one sports bar where it's still allowed, because the restaurant is behind a glass enclosure now. As for stepping outside, yes I do that, as I don't have to contend with -20 degree weather. If I'm at a Wal Mart or other establishment, I don't stand outside the door. I do it in my car. (I can wait, lol)

When I first moved here, they allowed smoking in supermarkets where the slot machines are,and also every restaurant (IHOP, for example) had a smoking and non smoking section. I understand doing away with it there,as shoppers with kids had to pass thru those sections, as well as in the restaurants. But again, the bars? Well, at the time they put that on a ballot, they brought up the health of the children. Children?? In a bar?? Yeah right.

And again, smoking and drinking (and gambling) seemingly go hand in hand, IMO. So if you're at a bar playing the slots, and someone next to you lights up, well you should know it's gonna happen.Or for that matter, sitting at a blackjack table with the same circumstance. (Only thing not allowed is pipe or cigar smoking). So I'd suggest if that bothers some, go find a nonsmoking establishment. There's plenty of those around town, and they proudly advertise it. Just like I'm not gonna wander into a nonsmoking place and complain because I can't light up, I really wish some wouldn't venture into a smoking bar and complain.

As for outdoor smoking----well I've voiced my opinion on that matter. Where I work, we have designated outdoor smoking areas for employees only. Yet, there's always that one butthole who wants to come out to talk to someone and do the hand-waving-in-disgust jesture. Hey, didn't you see the big sign that says "designated smoking area"??!! Stay out if you're offended!! Sheesh.

Yes, when the new nonsmoking ordinance passed, the usual concerns of lost business was brought up. So far though, I'm not seeing alot of bars closing down based on this, but other factors(economy) have forced smaller bars to shutter their doors.

The big thing now seemingly is E-cigs. I'm seriously considering trying that out. It'd still give me the feeling of smoking, but I wouldn't offend anyone.

Peace.......now where's my lighter?

[kehlis]

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I was just being a jerk. Thought the smiley would show that.

lol, it's showing up as a box on my computer.

[Brandwin]

lol, it's showing up as a box on my computer.

Doh! Maybe because I used Tapatalk and smileys from my phone.

[ODogg]

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Sorry man.. hope I didn't offend.

Not at all, it disgusts me just as it does you, probably even more so...

[ODogg]

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Oh and I do not have any problem w ppl smoking in their cars if there are no children with them. I do however have issue with it if there are children in the car. That should be made illegal. I suffered through it as a child and I still wonder if it contributed to my getting cancer.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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I've never had a cigarette before in my life so, for me, drinking and going to a bar doesn't go hand in hand with wading through clouds of smoke.

[Hooe]

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Still would have no affect on your health.

This is a baseless assertion that flies in the face of the current scientific consensus.

The scientific consensus is that second-hand smoke can directly lead to health complications. The Wikipedia page on passive smoking cites over 180 sources, many to this end, including three backing up the initial claim of consensus, and many many more linking to research papers and advisories from sources such as the United States Surgeon General, the United States National Cancer Institute, the United States National Institute of Health, and the World Health Organization on the subject matter.

It's unclear what they define as "exposure", and to that end it's fair to call into question the acuity of the health risk in the specific example you were responding to, but in the general case there's a strong and well-researched correlation between second-hand smoke and health problems. Again, as a person with chemically-induced asthma, I admittedly have a strong motivation towards one of the two sides of this argument.

[Candyman5]

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I troll people all the time with the electronic cigarettes. Im just like, "Say something, I dare ya".

It was just another thing for the public to complain about. They had smoking sections and non smoking sections for a reason. They were usually closed off from each other as well but no that wasnt good enough either.

I dont like trying to eat when someone else is at another stall talking loud as hell on his cell phone so I am going to try to get them banned as well.

Im not even a smoker but things like this just irk the living hell out of me.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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It was just another thing for the public to complain about. They had smoking sections and non smoking sections for a reason. They were usually closed off from each other as well but no that wasnt good enough either.

Yet, that did nothing to truly separate the smoking section from the rest of the restaurant. I remember going into Pizza Hut as a kid with my family and being seated in the "non-smoking" section which was simply on the opposite wall of the smoking section. No barriers. No separate room. Just open air.

[Hooe]

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I troll people all the time with the electronic cigarettes. Im just like, "Say something, I dare ya".

It was just another thing for the public to complain about. They had smoking sections and non smoking sections for a reason. They were usually closed off from each other as well but no that wasnt good enough either.

I dont like trying to eat when someone else is at another stall talking loud as hell on his cell phone so I am going to try to get them banned as well.

Im not even a smoker but things like this just irk the living hell out of me.

To me this is apples and oranges. If I am around a second-hand smoker, I could end up in the hospital because my lungs are sensitive to all sorts of weird stuff. I've taken trips to the hospital due a teacher in my school changed an air freshener, due to solder smoke, due to fire extinguisher discharge, and all sorts of weird stuff. Smoke of any sort is an irritant to me and directly impairs my ability to breathe. There's no such life-threatening or life-impairing comparison with people talking loudly in a public environment.

To the point, with regard to second-hand smoke, my health and well-being is directly being infringed upon. Again, that smoker's cigarette could send me to the hospital, where not only I have to worry about breathing in the first place, but I must front the costs for the trip once I recover, thanks to something that wasn't in my control. I don't think that in my case it's just "something for me to complain about", there are definite health and economic implications for my having to go to the hospital, and to frame it as just something to complain about I feel is incredibly inconsiderate to my particular case. Based on my mother's thiry-plus years working professionally as a respiratory therapist, I most certainly am not the only person with breathing problems, either, and those people with breathing problems I would venture to guess are more likely to be more sensitive to second-hand smokers, or chronic smokers themselves (my mother sees a ton of chronic smokers who can't quit and are just killing themselves, it's quite sad).

I'm not saying one can't smoke - though I'll never understand why you'd want to, but it's your life and you are perfectly capable of making your own decisions - just have the decency to not to smoke near me, have the decency and judgement to not impair my ability to breathe.

[jmood88]

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I troll people all the time with the electronic cigarettes. Im just like, "Say something, I dare ya".

It was just another thing for the public to complain about. They had smoking sections and non smoking sections for a reason. They were usually closed off from each other as well but no that wasnt good enough either.

I dont like trying to eat when someone else is at another stall talking loud as hell on his cell phone so I am going to try to get them banned as well.

Im not even a smoker but things like this just irk the living hell out of me.

Someone talking too loudly on a cell phone doesn't have the potential to give you cancer or exacerbate an existing medical condition (unless you have tinitus, maybe). Oh and just so you know, smoke doesn't stay confined to the smoking area just because that's where it's allowed, it dissipates over the entire area.

[55]

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I'm not saying one can't smoke - though I'll never understand why you'd want to...

Because it makes them look cool, of course!