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  • Paradingwolves
    Banned
    • May 2014
    • 261

    #391
    Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3, PS4

    LOL at those pictures, part of me is really hoping this was done in the demo to showcase the new keeper animations, the defenders are set to be extremely passive so we get to see all these great new save animations....... doubtful but one can hope. Either way this may be fixed already in the full game, I can't imagine this got by all the testers if everyone on here noticed it was that bad after a day.

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    • Krebstar
      is looking at stats.
      • May 2005
      • 12904

      #392
      Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3, PS4

      Originally posted by Paradingwolves
      LOL at those pictures, part of me is really hoping this was done in the demo to showcase the new keeper animations, the defenders are set to be extremely passive so we get to see all these great new save animations....... doubtful but one can hope. Either way this may be fixed already in the full game, I can't imagine this got by all the testers if everyone on here noticed it was that bad after a day.
      It all depends on what you're testing for. It's fairly clear that in the history of FIFA, it's made to appeal to the masses, which includes the casual fan who wants a wide open back and forth match. That also includes having your defense be just as open as the AI.

      Now, luckily in the last three years these things have been able to be addressed via sliders, but I've learned that with FIFA, they're aware that it's playing a certain way, because it's the way they want it to play.

      That doesn't go for every single issue, but in terms of defenders being idiots, I think the developers are more than fine with it at this point.

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      • Hutton
        Banned
        • Aug 2008
        • 832

        #393
        Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3, PS4

        You can't argue that the teammate AI defending is terrible. Terrible doesn't even describe it. Terrible would be a major improvement.

        I sincerely hope EA got their ducks in a proper row and used some of the coding from their rather impressive FIFA World Cup game. I've never wanted to rage quit so bad in my life after some of the tomfoolery going on in the FIFA15 demo. Even the last 10 minute super boosts the CPU got in FIFA13 (I think it was 13 that had the absurd end of game logic) didn't anger me as much as some of the shenanigans I've seen in this demo.

        The real shame is so much stuff is done fantastically well. I'm going to be real disappointed if the early release exhibits even a smidgen of this crapfest defending. Even Tottenham Hotspur circa November 2013 could defend better than this, and that's saying quite a lot.

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        • OneDrop
          Pro
          • Jan 2013
          • 688

          #394
          Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3, PS4

          BL8001 what difficulty are you playing on?

          Earlier today I was playing as Liverpool vs Chelsea. Oscar had the ball and was rushing towards my back 4. Instead of waiting and keeping my back 4 organized I made the mistake of jogging towards Oscar with my RCB who was Kolo Touré. The next thing that happened caught my eye, my RB (Glen Johnson of all people) decided to cover for Touré and at the same time my LB took a step towards my LCB, totally shutting down any space between my defenders, it was a thing of beauty as smart defending in FIFA doesn't occur often. I'd like to see more of this in the full game. This was on legendary by the way.

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          • Ermolli
            MVP
            • Jul 2009
            • 3315

            #395
            Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3, PS4

            After playing some more games there were some other things I've noticed:

            - CPU teammates (besides not winning 50-50 balls) barely attempt to go for the ball, they are too passive and I've to fight for the ball by myself although when I change payer it's already late.
            - Keepers lack instinct to go for the second save on loose balls, I have been scored a few times that way even if the ball was centimetres away from them.
            - I've lost possession several times because I made a pass to a player that was going to the opposite direction of the pass respecting momentum, found that quite nice even though I gave the ball away.
            - I don't know if I was imagining this but during a game the opposite team subbed a player who scored the only goal in the game and was cheered by the fans louder than other players, is this a thing or it was just me?
            - Seeing off-ball fouls is refreshing, got called a couple times when an attacker made cut and my player made him stop.
            - Sideback are useless while defending, I've already mentioned it in a previous post but it's eyesore to me (I'm playing in World Class by the way).

            Besides those things I found that a way to avoid the opposite team to go through midfield without much resistance is to set every midfielder in team assistance to get back on defense (can't remember on top of my head how it's named), now the other team takes more time to go to my goal and pass more between them since there are fewer gaps to go through. Hope it helps someone who complained about the lack of midfield action, I'll try play more games if it works as I think.

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            • BL8001
              MVP
              • Jul 2010
              • 1884

              #396
              Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3, PS4

              Originally posted by OneDrop
              BL8001 what difficulty are you playing on?

              Earlier today I was playing as Liverpool vs Chelsea. Oscar had the ball and was rushing towards my back 4. Instead of waiting and keeping my back 4 organized I made the mistake of jogging towards Oscar with my RCB who was Kolo Touré. The next thing that happened caught my eye, my RB (Glen Johnson of all people) decided to cover for Touré and at the same time my LB took a step towards my LCB, totally shutting down any space between my defenders, it was a thing of beauty as smart defending in FIFA doesn't occur often. I'd like to see more of this in the full game. This was on legendary by the way.

              Pro the majority of the time with just a few WC games sprinkled in.

              This is coming from previous fifa's...I have never been a fan of how EA scales the difficulty. To me pro is the last difficulty level before EA start crippling your team.

              Removing sliders from the equation the skill levels work like this. The more you raise the level the dumber your team gets and the more cheaty the CPU gets.

              It's that dumbing down of my squads players that drives me crazy. I don't see any other sports games change the difficulty this way. What I mean is if you play on semi pro all of your players run around like wunderkind making daring runs and tracking back, keeping shape and just playing all around nice futbol.

              On 14 and prior titles once you transition to world class my players become sluggish and don't make the same runs get disorganized on the pitch, ignore threats, etc. while the CPU gets every single 50/50 bounce go their way.

              Also, and this is just a feeling I guess, but I swear on 13 and 14 the game even controlled better, tighter, more responsive on am semi pro and pro.

              Which fifa was it where people swore pro and WC were flipped? Was it fifa 12?
              resident curmudgeon

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              • Zac
                World-Class Diver
                • Jan 2008
                • 4269

                #397
                Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3, PS4

                This is your daily reminder that there are only 12 days to go.

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                • BL8001
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 1884

                  #398
                  Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3, PS4

                  Has anyone curled a pass?

                  There were rumors, I think EA even claimed you could, of curled passes in the WC game.

                  I played it and you couldn't curl passes.

                  If it was ever to happen in a fifa I would assume it would just be hold the left stick the way you want to pass, hit pass button and then swivel the L stick the way you want it to curve. Much like how you curl a free kick.

                  It should be RB + pass but that does some of the silly and fairly useless trick passes. A nice curled pass using that button combo would be really useful and it would look ace.

                  I am going to jump in and try it in an hour or so.
                  resident curmudgeon

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                  • Zac
                    World-Class Diver
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 4269

                    #399
                    Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3, PS4

                    Originally posted by BL8001
                    If it was ever to happen in a fifa I would assume it would just be hold the left stick the way you want to pass, hit pass button and then swivel the L stick the way you want it to curve. Much like how you curl a free kick.
                    What? I didn't know this. I've been fouled in a spot so few times to even have a chance at making a free kick I never bothered to learn the ins and outs of them. I had no idea this could even be done.

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                    • talucchesi
                      Pro
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 509

                      #400
                      Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3, PS4

                      This is the best demo Ive ever played. That is all
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                      • BL8001
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 1884

                        #401
                        Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3, PS4

                        Originally posted by ZO
                        What? I didn't know this. I've been fouled in a spot so few times to even have a chance at making a free kick I never bothered to learn the ins and outs of them. I had no idea this could even be done.
                        Yeah in the FK skill game on 14 you can curl them like crazy. I wish it was like that in the full game. It's toned down a lot in the full game but you can still do it.

                        To curl, let's say you are 25m out. You can just hold up while powering up to dip the kick.

                        You can also hold up and as you power up the kick roll the stick left or right to add swerve. So go from 12 to 9 to bend left or 12 to 3 to bend right (on the stick). This is for a righty.
                        Last edited by BL8001; 09-11-2014, 08:34 PM.
                        resident curmudgeon

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                        • LionsFanNJ
                          All Star
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 9464

                          #402
                          Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3, PS4

                          Man after patting tons of FIFA 14 on the PS3 and a bit on the PS4, the ball physics passing and player movement are glorious. I love how the ball keeps momentum during the players first touches.

                          And man I caught Aubameyang on the wing with a pass starting a counter I never would have been able to make in 14. Awesome.

                          Also, glad Aubameyang has a scanned face now. A nice surprise

                          Man I can't wait for 15 now. Just wish creation centre was on PS4. I got six guys I loved using on the PS3. At least give us the similar CAP options like on the web app in game.

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                          • Und Lahm
                            Rookie
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 160

                            #403
                            Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3, PS4

                            I don't know about everyone else, but finally after years I'm seeing a decent number of fouls!!! And, the CPU has been getting 1 or 2 cards per game on World Class.

                            But, after buying the PS4 specifically for the "next-gen Fifa experience", I'm largely underwhelmed by the demo. Yes, all the superficial fluff is there, but it still has most of the glaring flaws we've been dealing with for years.

                            Ah well. Still going to buy the game anyway, cause I love football!

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                            • kashik
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 168

                              #404
                              Well after spending some time with the PS4 demo today, I can say that I am both impressed and disappointed.

                              I was impressed by the presentation of the game itself. It was a really cool pre-game setup as they showed the lineups, and the stadium looked great with the new lighting. The players looked the same as 14, but now all have huge shoulders and arms. These guys are football players not rugby players, so it looked a little strange. Overall, I'm happy with how things look graphically. It isn't an improvement across the board, but it all builds up the gameday experience quite nicely. One thing to keep in mind though is that these graphical enhancements are really only interesting for the first few times you see it. Gameplay will be the most important thing after you've spent a few days with the game.

                              Because of this, I am disappointed to say the gameplay left me the least impressed. It feels very similar to 14, but with little tweaks here and there. The dribbling did feel better and better as I played more, but that is just one small part of the gameplay. I found the shooting to be pretty bad, with keepers going into beast mode every time you hit a normal shot, but then keepers being beaten easily when you finessed. Like others have said, there isn't much midfield play in the game either. Defending on the other hand seemed unrealistic as you could easily slide tackle the computer as they made their long runs with the ball. I don't think I've ever found slide tackles to be so OP in a game before. Anyone else notice this?

                              Finally, the goal that made me put down the game today was a classic Fifa AI goal. I was Barca tied with PSG 0-0 approaching the 90th minute. PSG gets a free kick from the halfway line. Long ball into the box where Cavani straight volleys it in at the near post. Now I know some of you may say this sounds like an amazing goal, but any long time Fifa player knows that goals like this are more often a case of the computer needing to score than it being something that was genuinely impressive. This type of thing is what is driving me mad with the series. I can only imagine that online play will be similar to 14 if these type of BS goals are still in the game.

                              There's some improvements here, but some of those game killers for me are still here as well. It's disappointing that EA STILL hasn't addressed old flaws in the game. I'm a long time Fifa fan, but this demo has done nothing to stop me from following the developments in PES. I would recommend others to hold off on pre-ordering/purchasing until the PES demo is released.

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                              • RandyBass
                                MVP
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 1179

                                #405
                                Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3, PS4

                                As others have noted, I see teammate defense is still pretty weak. It's been an Achilles Heel for the series for a while. To be fair I haven't tried upping player marking.

                                The game definitely feels different from 14, and the presentation is indeed very good. Still can't really tell if teams have their own style this year, and will have to play more to see about that.

                                On a side note, I forgot to switch the controls to where square is shoot and circle is long pass. My first possession of the demo I manage to X pass my way up to Sturridge in the box, and press square (long pass) to shoot, and the result is a perfect little chip shot over the keeper's head! Even had a defender make a leaping effort to try and keep it from going in. Looked pretty sweet, even if it was essentially a mistake.

                                I saw a few others things that stood out, like Aguero getting injured in a very realistic looking tackle that had him tumbling to the ground. Like I say, the game definitely feels different that 14, just not sure about the lingering issues that FIFA seems to carry over from year to year.

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