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  • Turbojugend
    MVP
    • Sep 2013
    • 2242

    #406
    Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3, PS4

    A couple of cool things I noticed tonight that I haven't seen mentioned yet:

    * A big HELL YEAH for switching to receivers on throw-ins! It only took them three years to catch up with PES, but better late than never!

    * No more dreaded FIFA BEEP! If you ever heard it you'll know what I mean, man it was annoying as all hell.

    Playing on World Class/Slow/Full Manual and I don't know what else to say but this game just feels right, it may not be flawless but it's a better version of 14 and that's all I need. Well, that and Forest getting promoted to the Prem.
    Last edited by Turbojugend; 09-11-2014, 11:09 PM.
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    • hunterdawgs10
      Rookie
      • Sep 2011
      • 214

      #407
      Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3, PS4

      Playing on WC full manual.

      I think the opportunity is there to really play the close quarter passing/tikki taka football as teams like Arsenal and Barcelona play. One can accurately and effectively pass short now. Its actually hard to get used to as I found myself underhitting a lot of my passes. Encouraging signs for players who enjoy this style.

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      • orion523
        All Star
        • Aug 2007
        • 6709

        #408
        Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3, PS4

        Originally posted by BL8001
        Yeah in the FK skill game on 14 you can curl them like crazy. I wish it was like that in the full game. It's toned down a lot in the full game but you can still do it.

        To curl, let's say you are 25m out. You can just hold up while powering up to dip the kick.

        You can also hold up and as you power up the kick roll the stick left or right to add swerve. So go from 12 to 9 to bend left or 12 to 3 to bend right (on the stick). This is for a righty.
        Your Liverpool posts were great btw, and they got me thinking, but since I haven't had a chance to test my theory I'll ask you, bear with me please:

        In the photos, most if not all times their problems at the back stemmed from LB Jon Flanagan not doing his job, which forced the LCB to overcompensate. Do you feel that if the poorly rated Flanagan was replaced by a more accomplished LB(Alberto Moreno) that it would make a difference? If so, that would be so damn awesome!

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        • Paradingwolves
          Banned
          • May 2014
          • 261

          #409
          Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3, PS4

          Finally got to play a couple games last night, haven't had a chance yet because I work 9-5 and have a 6 week old at home that I need to tend to a lot and give the wife breaks.

          I honestly didn't see the same problems with my back for a lot of people seem to have, I don't know. I played on WC and didn't touch sliders but did adjust some of the player instructions. I told my strikers to press the back line and they did, Sturridge was hussling and hounding Kompany all day without me having to do it myself. I set my CBs to "cut passes" and they would do it, sometimes they left a man open to go for the interception but I was usually able to compensate, I then tried man marking and they would pick a guy up and stick like glue, again sometimes too much but I can deal. I even had Hummels in one game dive in front of a shot, he missed but he still tried to do something about it.

          One amazing new touch is now the clock keeps running ALL the time, no more stop clock during a throw in, goal kick or substitution, it runs in real time during these stoppages as to not waste your gameplay time, but it's a nice touch that makes it seems less like a video game.

          I played as Dortmund against Boca, Boca got a goal around th 75th minute and literally parked the bus! they ran to the corner flag during the final minutes and all their clearances were just hoofed out to my back foor inviting attack after attack that was like trying to break down a brick wall set up right outside the 18 yard box. Awesome! now I just hope it's not overdone, but to me it seemed natural as Boca was the underdog and the away team they'd shell up with 15 minutes to go up a goal.

          Overall, I think this is a very promising demo and can't wait to start CM and play around more with player instructions/roles, create 5 different line ups for different game (league, cup, away, CL etc) without having to manually edit each time. Now hopefully they fixed the GTN a bit, but probably not.

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          • fearwhatnow
            MVP
            • Aug 2006
            • 1474

            #410
            Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3, PS4

            Official TV commercial:

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            • japsubie
              Rookie
              • May 2014
              • 406

              #411
              Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3, PS4

              Originally posted by Turbojugend
              A couple of cool things I noticed tonight that I haven't seen mentioned yet:

              * A big HELL YEAH for switching to receivers on throw-ins! It only took them three years to catch up with PES, but better late than never!

              * No more dreaded FIFA BEEP! If you ever heard it you'll know what I mean, man it was annoying as all hell.

              Playing on World Class/Slow/Full Manual and I don't know what else to say but this game just feels right, it may not be flawless but it's a better version of 14 and that's all I need. Well, that and Forest getting promoted to the Prem.
              have you noticed at all on world class if your teammates start to seem sluggish or not make as good of runs, or become complacenet at all compared to playing on pro? im just curious because i know in previous fifa's it always seemed like the higher you put the difficulty, the more ******** your team got. i played legendary on '14 and managed, but i still felt like my team itself just did not play as well, cpu got every free ball, it was just kind of lopsided it seemed... does it seem like your team is still playing how you want them to on world class this year??

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              • orion523
                All Star
                • Aug 2007
                • 6709

                #412
                Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3, PS4

                Originally posted by Paradingwolves
                Finally got to play a couple games last night, haven't had a chance yet because I work 9-5 and have a 6 week old at home that I need to tend to a lot and give the wife breaks.

                I honestly didn't see the same problems with my back for a lot of people seem to have, I don't know. I played on WC and didn't touch sliders but did adjust some of the player instructions. I told my strikers to press the back line and they did, Sturridge was hussling and hounding Kompany all day without me having to do it myself. I set my CBs to "cut passes" and they would do it, sometimes they left a man open to go for the interception but I was usually able to compensate, I then tried man marking and they would pick a guy up and stick like glue, again sometimes too much but I can deal. I even had Hummels in one game dive in front of a shot, he missed but he still tried to do something about it.

                One amazing new touch is now the clock keeps running ALL the time, no more stop clock during a throw in, goal kick or substitution, it runs in real time during these stoppages as to not waste your gameplay time, but it's a nice touch that makes it seems less like a video game.

                I played as Dortmund against Boca, Boca got a goal around th 75th minute and literally parked the bus! they ran to the corner flag during the final minutes and all their clearances were just hoofed out to my back foor inviting attack after attack that was like trying to break down a brick wall set up right outside the 18 yard box. Awesome! now I just hope it's not overdone, but to me it seemed natural as Boca was the underdog and the away team they'd shell up with 15 minutes to go up a goal.

                Overall, I think this is a very promising demo and can't wait to start CM and play around more with player instructions/roles, create 5 different line ups for different game (league, cup, away, CL etc) without having to manually edit each time. Now hopefully they fixed the GTN a bit, but probably not.
                Your right. I just played several games on different difficulties from the co-op cam just to watch defensive behavior, and without a doubt, difficulty makes a difference. On semi and even Pro, defenders did tend to miss assignments allowing for scoring ops. This did improve however with increased marking(53).
                On WC(the highest I tested) defending was much better overall, but the attacking side was also much better, taking advantage if every little mistake made. For instance, Willian had the ball coming down the left wing, I was shadowing him with Henderson who then turned him over to Glen Johnson, instead of letting Hendo go, I tried to double team Willian and force a turnover. This left a gaping space just outside the area on the left side and Willian quickly took advantage, passing the ball into that space where Hazard ran onto it and created a great scoring op.
                Same situation later in the match, this time I let Henderson go, and Johnson guards Willian. Unable to shake him, Willian is forced to try a cross that winds up in the hands of Mignolet, change of possession.

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                • Turbojugend
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 2242

                  #413
                  Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3, PS4

                  Originally posted by japsubie
                  have you noticed at all on world class if your teammates start to seem sluggish or not make as good of runs, or become complacenet at all compared to playing on pro? im just curious because i know in previous fifa's it always seemed like the higher you put the difficulty, the more ******** your team got. i played legendary on '14 and managed, but i still felt like my team itself just did not play as well, cpu got every free ball, it was just kind of lopsided it seemed... does it seem like your team is still playing how you want them to on world class this year??
                  I'm no FIFA super strategist,but maybe it would be useful to explain the style I play. On offense, I usually make runs up the wing, sometimes sending my other players on forced runs. I played on SemiPro and WC, and to me it definitely seemed like a case of CPU defensive improvement. For example, on SP the DBs tend to sort of sit there with their mouths agape and let you blow by them for an easy cross into the box, on WC they'll contain and try to force a mistake.

                  On defense I try to control every "responsible" player, playing a pressure game by containing with A and rarely tackling (I never slide tackle). Either that or I'll bring another defender up with RB and try to manually cut off passing lanes. In both cases the marking feels looser, like you can't just hold A to stick to someone like glue this year. Maybe this is due to the sharper turning angles? I don't know.

                  Again, I'm no FIFA expert. This is just what works for me and my style of play. Oh, and the game seems MUCH more physical this year. Lots of CPU defenders making hard challenges I wouldn't have seen in earlier games, which may lead to the increase in fouls we're seeing.
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                  • Inhocmark
                    No Official License
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 261

                    #414
                    Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3, PS4

                    Originally posted by OneDrop
                    BL8001 what difficulty are you playing on?

                    Earlier today I was playing as Liverpool vs Chelsea. Oscar had the ball and was rushing towards my back 4. Instead of waiting and keeping my back 4 organized I made the mistake of jogging towards Oscar with my RCB who was Kolo Touré. The next thing that happened caught my eye, my RB (Glen Johnson of all people) decided to cover for Touré and at the same time my LB took a step towards my LCB, totally shutting down any space between my defenders, it was a thing of beauty as smart defending in FIFA doesn't occur often. I'd like to see more of this in the full game. This was on legendary by the way.
                    Wait a second...Glen Johnson covered? Okay now I know the game is broken.

                    I was chalking up all those photos of atrocious Liverpool defending down to well...Liverpool's defending was atrocious at times last year.
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                    • BL8001
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 1884

                      #415
                      Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3, PS4

                      Originally posted by orion523
                      Your right. I just played several games on different difficulties from the co-op cam just to watch defensive behavior, and without a doubt, difficulty makes a difference. On semi and even Pro, defenders did tend to miss assignments allowing for scoring ops. This did improve however with increased marking(53).
                      On WC(the highest I tested) defending was much better overall, but the attacking side was also much better, taking advantage if every little mistake made.

                      Thanks for doing this.

                      Just to be clear here, my concerns are not about the CPU CPU D.

                      I am talking only about the HUMAN CPU D.

                      In my prior break down of liverpool that was me as liverpool and the players I wasn't controlling (you can't control them all quick enough) doing idiotic things. The CPU D is fine enough and behaves according to skill level.

                      I am going to put up an example of me as PSG attacking a CPU liverpool in just a few minutes.
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                      • orion523
                        All Star
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 6709

                        #416
                        Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3, PS4

                        Originally posted by BL8001
                        Thanks for doing this.

                        Just to be clear here, my concerns are not about the CPU CPU D.

                        I am talking only about the HUMAN CPU D.

                        In my prior break down of liverpool that was me as liverpool and the players I wasn't controlling (you can't control them all quick enough) doing idiotic things. The CPU D is fine enough and behaves according to skill level.

                        I am going to put up an example of me as PSG attacking a CPU liverpool in just a few minutes.
                        Yeah yeah, me too. I usually stuck with the near side defender(johnson) and watched what happened behind me depending on my actions.

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                        • japsubie
                          Rookie
                          • May 2014
                          • 406

                          #417
                          Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3, PS4

                          Originally posted by Turbojugend
                          I'm no FIFA super strategist,but maybe it would be useful to explain the style I play. On offense, I usually make runs up the wing, sometimes sending my other players on forced runs. I played on SemiPro and WC, and to me it definitely seemed like a case of CPU defensive improvement. For example, on SP the DBs tend to sort of sit there with their mouths agape and let you blow by them for an easy cross into the box, on WC they'll contain and try to force a mistake.

                          On defense I try to control every "responsible" player, playing a pressure game by containing with A and rarely tackling (I never slide tackle). Either that or I'll bring another defender up with RB and try to manually cut off passing lanes. In both cases the marking feels looser, like you can't just hold A to stick to someone like glue this year. Maybe this is due to the sharper turning angles? I don't know.

                          Again, I'm no FIFA expert. This is just what works for me and my style of play. Oh, and the game seems MUCH more physical this year. Lots of CPU defenders making hard challenges I wouldn't have seen in earlier games, which may lead to the increase in fouls we're seeing.
                          ok cool so this makes me feel very confident that ill be able to play my style game again on WC without feeling like im being jipped by the CPU. ive always played a shadow style defense, i never use the contain button i kind of just contain on my own, i use L2 to keep my defender squared up to the offensive player in possession and it seems to work out very well. thanks for the response this definitely helped.

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                          • Und Lahm
                            Rookie
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 160

                            #418
                            Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3, PS4

                            I find the lack of midfield play by the CPU a bit disturbing, too.

                            The CPU just gets the ball to the CF (or wingers) as directly as possible. They then proceed to dribble around as much as they can. I would be okay if some of the teams played a direct game like that, but as usual, all the teams seem to play the same style.

                            That and the complete lack of offensive creativity by my CPU team-mates.

                            But the shirt pulling is cool.

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                            • BL8001
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 1884

                              #419
                              Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3, PS4

                              Ok so here we go. I am PSG going against a Liverpool CPU D on pro difficulty.

                              Comparing the CPU defending behavior to my previous post about Liverpool defending under my "control".

                              Photo 1
                              Cavani just pulled a face up LT+RT move on the LB and is now slashing in towards the box

                              Photo 2
                              Cavani has a step or 2 on the LB so I cut back to my right to keep the defender closest to me blocked from the ball by me. Driving for the near post and creating space away from the LCB who is about to close me down

                              Photo 3
                              Not only does the LCB close me down but the LB desperately slides in to complicate matters. I weave further right but the window is closing

                              Photo 4
                              Slide attempt fails but the LCB is doing a fantastic job of pushing me towards the touchline while closing the gap, reducing my options rapidly

                              Photo 5
                              Might as well unleash. I get lucky and fire it under his outstretched leg shot block attempt

                              All of this correct behavior by the CPU defense is absent when my CPU controlled players play defense as I showed previously in this thread. Prior FIFA's have not been this blatant about hosing your defense, particularly on PRO
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                              • BL8001
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 1884

                                #420
                                Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3, PS4

                                Sorry, only 5 attachments allowed in one post.

                                So the result is a nice shot by Cavani that just whistles wide of the near post. Plus a couple photos of the crowd reaction.
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                                Last edited by BL8001; 09-12-2014, 10:16 AM. Reason: added in 2 more photos
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