FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3, PS4

**Scary Larry** · 09-12-2014, 10:17 AM

Re: FIFA 15 Demo Available Now on Xbox One, 360, PC, PS3, PS4

The player animations are nothing like what we've seen in the previews. The players faces look way off. Hoping this is a demo thing is all.

**BL8001** · 09-12-2014, 12:03 PM

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One thing I don't like is LT to shield. Well, I like that it exists, I just don't like how it works.

Jeez, maybe not even that, I guess I don't like how the CPU doesn't care.

If I hold LT to shield like EA says I can, and point the L stick away from the defender and shielding happens, the CPU should then respect the shielding and not just toe poke it away from between my legs.

When I shield it means I am not moving rapidly towards their goal so I am less of a threat. They need to respect this more. When I shield the correct CPU behavior should be to become less aggressive, get organized and move more men behind the ball and play on.

From what I see it gets worse as you go up difficulty levels. Just had a go on legendary and holding LT basically was an invitation for the CPU to come take it off my boot.

I am not asking for an auto shield where the CPU can't ever get it. But I do want the CPU to now have to actually come around my player to strip the ball away. Or at least maybe foul me because you came through me to get the ball.

To treat LT no differently (in terms of thieving it off my boot) than if I was holding LB to face towards goal seems silly.

**Turbojugend** · 09-12-2014, 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by BL8001

One thing I don't like is LT to shield. (+details…)

Totally agreed. I don't think this feature ever worked as intended.

**orion523** · 09-12-2014, 03:03 PM

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Originally posted by BL8001

One thing I don't like is LT to shield. Well, I like that it exists, I just don't like how it works.

Jeez, maybe not even that, I guess I don't like how the CPU doesn't care.

If I hold LT to shield like EA says I can, and point the L stick away from the defender and shielding happens, the CPU should then respect the shielding and not just toe poke it away from between my legs.

When I shield it means I am not moving rapidly towards their goal so I am less of a threat. They need to respect this more. When I shield the correct CPU behavior should be to become less aggressive, get organized and move more men behind the ball and play on.

From what I see it gets worse as you go up difficulty levels. Just had a go on legendary and holding LT basically was an invitation for the CPU to come take it off my boot.

I am not asking for an auto shield where the CPU can't ever get it. But I do want the CPU to now have to actually come around my player to strip the ball away. Or at least maybe foul me because you came through me to get the ball.

To treat LT no differently (in terms of thieving it off my boot) than if I was holding LB to face towards goal seems silly.

You've just hit on my second biggest pet peeve with the game. My biggest was thankfully rectified with the new possession tackle mechanic. Making a good tackle only to see the ball fly 10 yards away right back to my opponent would irk me to no end lol. With the demo at least, this is much much better.
As for the shielding button, to be fair it does work a lot better with stronger players, guys like YaYa Toure.

**orion523** · 09-12-2014, 03:13 PM

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The more I play this game, the more I'm beginning to come to grips with all the subtlety involved. In a weird kind of way it reminds me of Street Fighter.
Sure on the lower difficulties, or against an unskilled player, you can kick and punch with reckless abandon and have some success, but when you come up against a player who's taken the time to learn the intricacies of the game, the fun ceases as you're violently shredded over and over again. Yeah FIFA 15 is like that.

**japsubie** · 09-12-2014, 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by orion523

The more I play this game, the more I'm beginning to come to grips with all the subtlety involved. In a weird kind of way it reminds me of Street Fighter.
Sure on the lower difficulties, or against an unskilled player, you can kick and punch with reckless abandon and have some success, but when you come up against a player who's taken the time to learn the intricacies of the game, the fun ceases as you're violently shredded over and over again. Yeah FIFA 15 is like that.

This. This makes me even more excited for sliders and to begin my Career Mode. i cant wait.

**ncaafootball14markus** · 09-12-2014, 08:23 PM

hmmm so in all seriousness...has ANYONE figured out how to score from 30-40 yards out?!?! its friggin impossible!!! i didn't realize how easy it was to bomb shots w/ players like ronaldo in 14 until i played this game...EVERY BALL goes over the net 30 yards out. inside the box i'm fine.....but damn i cant do wonder shots...anyone else figure it out?!?

**RandyBass** · 09-12-2014, 08:30 PM

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Originally posted by ncaafootball14markus

hmmm so in all seriousness...has ANYONE figured out how to score from 30-40 yards out?!?! its friggin impossible!!! i didn't realize how easy it was to bomb shots w/ players like ronaldo in 14 until i played this game...EVERY BALL goes over the net 30 yards out. inside the box i'm fine.....but damn i cant do wonder shots...anyone else figure it out?!?

I scored one with Gerrard from about 25-30 yards out, default settings (the boot up game).

I also upped user marking for a game and it seemed to help with teammate defense. Perhaps there is a balance to be had there, when coupled with difficulty level and other sliders.

Can't really tell if teams this year play with their own style though. The demo game length just isn't long enough to show that aspect of it. FIFA 14 got old for me pretty quick because of this.

KG · 09-12-2014, 09:45 PM

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Originally posted by ncaafootball14markus

hmmm so in all seriousness...has ANYONE figured out how to score from 30-40 yards out?!?! its friggin impossible!!! i didn't realize how easy it was to bomb shots w/ players like ronaldo in 14 until i played this game...EVERY BALL goes over the net 30 yards out. inside the box i'm fine.....but damn i cant do wonder shots...anyone else figure it out?!?

Umm...it's supposed to be damn near impossible to score from that far out.

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**BL8001** · 09-12-2014, 10:59 PM

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Ok this is starting to piss me off. I have not noticed this before. This is the third time it has happened in this match. Twice to Ibra and once to cavani.

I finally captured the third time. What is happening is I am dribbling fine with LB LT and the L stick, weaving amongst the CPU and as soon as I make it past the last defender the control of the ball and player disappears and the ball rolls away. It's like some sick joke...I am going to turn it off and turn it back on again. I mean CPU cheating is one thing and we can debate whether it does that until we all grow old but this is ridiculous.

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Watching it again and again, what is up with 97 outside of the foot touches?

**BL8001** · 09-12-2014, 11:29 PM

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And can someone tell me how to do this? I mean I know how, but it's never as neat, clean, effortless and as purposeful as how the CPU does it.

What a cut.

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**OneDrop** · 09-13-2014, 04:26 AM

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Originally posted by BL8001

Ok this is starting to piss me off. I have not noticed this before. This is the third time it has happened in this match. Twice to Ibra and once to cavani.

I finally captured the third time. What is happening is I am dribbling fine with LB LT and the L stick, weaving amongst the CPU and as soon as I make it past the last defender the control of the ball and player disappears and the ball rolls away. It's like some sick joke...I am going to turn it off and turn it back on again. I mean CPU cheating is one thing and we can debate whether it does that until we all grow old but this is ridiculous.

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Watching it again and again, what is up with 97 outside of the foot touches?

Dribbling with the outside of the foot gives you more control of the ball irl. I used to use the outside of my foot to dribble in tight spaces where I needed the ball to remain close to me. What I conclude from the video is that Ibra had a bad touch and slightly overhits the ball. It can happen to anyone. However, you could say you're getting cheated on as it was FIFA that decided that touch was going to be a bad one.

**mondeslicht** · 09-13-2014, 05:53 AM

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 I played the demo. I am somehow disappointed, graphics are very good, presentation is nice, smoothness not bad.

What for me essential is, it’s the gameplay. I think that for people like me who are seeking for a true football simulation, this game is unplayable without changing the sliders again.

I wish EA would implement in this game 2 options: arcade and simulation style. Good looking game but still too “arcadish” to me.

I will buy it and work hard on the sliders to try to achieve my goal.
In FIFA 14 the goalkeepers where maybe too good, I played with the slider at 40, this year seems like the keepers in some past editions of PES, really bad. Too many goals through the legs.

In General too many dribblings are still present in this game and what makes me a bit mad (this is present in all editions of FIFA) is that when the CPU gets read of the ball, it reaches almost every time their forwards in the middle of the pitch.

I took this decision: I will buy FIFA but also PES for the gameplay.
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**Johns Jets** · 09-13-2014, 06:50 AM

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Okay, gonna pop in to give some thoughts. First of all, people looking at end of game stats are missing the point. Football is not a game of stats in the same way American Football is. Possession, pass completion percentage, shots on target etc etc, all of that is fluff that never used to even be tracked. It's interesting for TV pundits to discuss but is often irrelevant. It seems like a lot of people here look at these stats and wonder why the game hasn't panned out accordingly. I agree that a 90+ pass completion is unrealistic but it's a 4 min half demo, how many passes has the CPU even made? That's the real issue, not the quality of the passes, but the lack of them. Again, that might be due to half length.

Moving on to gameplay, it's difficult to say much at this point as we're all adjusting to the slight changes and perhaps bigger changes that haven't yet become apparent - shooting is obviously different and it feels bad at first but maybe it's actually more realistic. We're difficult to please as we want realism but every part of kicking a football requires varying levels of skill and some of the things we can do in FIFA/PES with relative ease are actually hard to do and rarely seen.

Defending is definitely 'different' this year and requires more input and patience. Some of the things people have pointed out are valid criticisms but in each case you have to ask what you're doing as well as what the game is doing. I feel that a lot of people on here are used to other EA games like Madden where the other players on your team (necessarily in that sport) do a lot of the work for you. Football, as in soccer, games have traditionally always been more about you controlling all of the players than games like Madden. I wonder if that's a problem with the thinking/expectation of players here. Since PES introduced the hold shoot to send another player over thing we've expected the sort of auto pressure/tackle from our AI team mates when doing so. I've found that when I control a CB and hold RB to pressure the oncoming attacker I have more success if I assume the pressure will fail and prepare myself to make a follow up challenge. Sometime the RB button guy will get in there but I find you have to use them more as harassment than a legitimate challenger now. I don't know if that's better, especially for a videogame, but it is perhaps more realistic. Someone else pointed out that real defence involves holding off and blocking lanes waiting for an opportunity for a turnover in possession and that does seem to be the way to do it here, it's just not as fun for our instant gratification gamer brains that want the ball back now.

There are many issues with the game but I feel that a lot of complaints in here aren't entirely valid. It's the buggy elements that are spoiling the game at the moment, not the way things work which can't really be judged yet. Hopefully this really is 'just a demo' although EA demos are usually the same as the final product and I suspect we'll have to wait for a patch or two to see if these issues get fixed, my problems with it are certainly all patchable things.

In short, if you're having problems, ask yourself if it might actually be down to you rather than the game. Do you need to adjust something or just get better? If your defence are bad, can you change a tactic or could it be that you're just not that great at it yet? Why are you expecting the game/AI to do it all for you? As for slider adjustment, I really don't think it's appropriate for this game, not at this stage especially. Football isn't about tweaking stats and interactions like American Football perhaps can be, don't be so obsessive about these things and instead just play the game and see if you can get a bit better at it.

I sound really defensive but trust me, I'm a huge critic of EA in general and I don't yet know what I think about the game, I just think a lot of what I've read in here is people getting hung up on things that aren't really, or at least might not be, real issues.

**BL8001** · 09-13-2014, 08:39 AM

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I have read on other forums that this demo build was before a shooting and goalkeeping change of code had occurred. So the full game will be different.

The A to contain has been changed and so has RB. All they did was expand the radius.

To see this start a game on WC, pause, go to settings and change the CPU acc to 10. Resume play. Now just observe your players behavior when you press RB or A.

With previous years your player would get close enough on his own when you pressed RB to initiate an auto tackle or CPU style toe poke. This go around when you press either defensive button your player keeps his distance. He never gets closer than 6 feet, just dances around an invisible arc that far away from the ball.

I don't hate this change but I think instead of being global, your better defenders should still have the closer contain arc of previous years. The CPU D still have the old closer defending radius which is why we are still seeing legacy toe poke defending from them.

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