Re: Really want to love this game but 90th minute goals/scripting are killing me agai
I've been playing a lot of FIFA 15 against CPU and loving it. I find it hilarious that the first reply is someone who doesn't even have the game. I have NEVER, yes never, felt like the CPU cheated me out of winning or that the outcome was PREDETERMINED. I play with 10 minute halves so there's plenty of time for the CPU to cheese me out of wins. I have progressively stepped up in difficulty one level at a time. I didn't move up in difficulty until I was routinely beating the CPU by 3+ goals. Also where I could hold the ball from the CPU without them getting it back for long stretches that felt unrealistic.
It look me awhile to do it at each level. On the lower levels the CPUs attack WILL score goals if you play badly. If you don't patiently defend and play within your formation and style of defense your players will find themselves out of position. This is true at every difficulty level. The main thing that changes is how patient the CPU will be on offense and how aggressive and tight they'll be defensively. If you start at the low difficulty and work your way up you will see that it all comes down to how YOU play. If you give them a path to the goal the AI is competent enough to take it and I love that. My attack has become more patient as I go up each level. It becomes more difficult to win one on one dribbles and it becomes a much more team oriented game as you get to world class.
People complain about scripting but don't describe the actual plays thoroughly enough IMO. I'd love to see some visual evidence. So much comes down to the MATCHUPS. The teams and the individual players and how you approach each possession. I can see the CPU change their mindset throughout games as the time passes and I score goals. The aggressive style of defense that worked early in the game doesn't work later on because the CPU is much more determined to attack so they put more players behind the ball. You have to play the numbers game and stick to your formation to really defend and pick your moments to get the ball back. And that moment all depends on the players on the pitch.
How can you tell you're going to draw or lose? Do you think going in with that mindset might negatively effect how you play?
I haven't seen any phantom penalties given to the CPU. There are some bad penalty calls in this game definitely, I see them mostly on pro clubs and the CPU will do them to me if they are overly aggressive. The refs are fickle about it sometimes but I have given up less than a handful of penalties in over 30 games at least and never one I couldn't clearly see. Hardly scripted into the game.
Terrible passing by AI players? Don't you control all players in manager mode? Even if you don't the player ratings DO matter. It's a beautiful thing that they do. If you want you can even turn pass error down to 0.
What kind of pass did you do? How much power was on it? Was the player on the wing moving?
So youre playing bad defense? Why are they just dribbling through all your guys? Stand in front of him and force him to pass. How many guys did you have behind the ball? Which positions were defending the dribbler? All of this matters. I've never seen an unstoppable CPU dribbler. I see very good ones but that's because some dribblers are very good.
That sucks they called a penalty in that situation because I've seen some boneheaded calls like I said. But for them to even have the ball and for you to not be able to get ball back before the shot is hardly them SCRIPTING all of that just for the penalty and goal at the end. You could do plenty of things differently that the game could never predict to stop those attacks.
Youre saying youre losing these scripted games but how are they scripting you to not score more than 2 goals? I'm using QPR right now and I haven't scored less than 2 goals against any team in the first 4 games. The only game I lost I gave up 4 goals with some horrible defending on my part against the Spurs. But after that I drew Man U 0-0. Then I blew out Stoke 4-1 and am beating Sheffield United 1-0 at half right now on my first game on legendary. I can see the CPU playing a lot better but if I stick to smart play I can create goals.
I love this game and I think this scripting complaints is the biggest myth in sports gaming. If it happened so often people would have clear videos of 90 strength defenders getting bodied by 40 strength CPU players because the game scripted a late goal. Or situations that could clearly show the game wasn't playing true the ratings and play at hand. You know what game you can do that in? Madden. You all should play a season of Madden and you'll come running back to the gameplay of FIFA. This game is the most fair sports game. Go look at all the complaints about 2k and contested shots going, people feel cheated by the game but when showed video evidence people pointed out bad defense. This game is all about knowing the controls and executing them properly. There are some tricky things about positioning and defender help AI but once I learned those through trial and error I have no issues defending.
I've been playing a lot of FIFA 15 against CPU and loving it. I find it hilarious that the first reply is someone who doesn't even have the game. I have NEVER, yes never, felt like the CPU cheated me out of winning or that the outcome was PREDETERMINED. I play with 10 minute halves so there's plenty of time for the CPU to cheese me out of wins. I have progressively stepped up in difficulty one level at a time. I didn't move up in difficulty until I was routinely beating the CPU by 3+ goals. Also where I could hold the ball from the CPU without them getting it back for long stretches that felt unrealistic.
It look me awhile to do it at each level. On the lower levels the CPUs attack WILL score goals if you play badly. If you don't patiently defend and play within your formation and style of defense your players will find themselves out of position. This is true at every difficulty level. The main thing that changes is how patient the CPU will be on offense and how aggressive and tight they'll be defensively. If you start at the low difficulty and work your way up you will see that it all comes down to how YOU play. If you give them a path to the goal the AI is competent enough to take it and I love that. My attack has become more patient as I go up each level. It becomes more difficult to win one on one dribbles and it becomes a much more team oriented game as you get to world class.
People complain about scripting but don't describe the actual plays thoroughly enough IMO. I'd love to see some visual evidence. So much comes down to the MATCHUPS. The teams and the individual players and how you approach each possession. I can see the CPU change their mindset throughout games as the time passes and I score goals. The aggressive style of defense that worked early in the game doesn't work later on because the CPU is much more determined to attack so they put more players behind the ball. You have to play the numbers game and stick to your formation to really defend and pick your moments to get the ball back. And that moment all depends on the players on the pitch.
I really do love a large part of this game but in manager mode, I can pretty much tell if I am going to draw or lose before game ends. Same old stuff - phantom penalties, terrible passing by my ai players, goalies not moving, etc.
I haven't seen any phantom penalties given to the CPU. There are some bad penalty calls in this game definitely, I see them mostly on pro clubs and the CPU will do them to me if they are overly aggressive. The refs are fickle about it sometimes but I have given up less than a handful of penalties in over 30 games at least and never one I couldn't clearly see. Hardly scripted into the game.
Terrible passing by AI players? Don't you control all players in manager mode? Even if you don't the player ratings DO matter. It's a beautiful thing that they do. If you want you can even turn pass error down to 0.
Passed it ahead to player on wing who was wide open but pass inexplicitly went way past target right to cpu.
They brought it down dribbling through all my guys
On the other side of the box, a CPU player ran into my ai player, tripped, and fell. Penalty, goal, and 1-1.
Youre saying youre losing these scripted games but how are they scripting you to not score more than 2 goals? I'm using QPR right now and I haven't scored less than 2 goals against any team in the first 4 games. The only game I lost I gave up 4 goals with some horrible defending on my part against the Spurs. But after that I drew Man U 0-0. Then I blew out Stoke 4-1 and am beating Sheffield United 1-0 at half right now on my first game on legendary. I can see the CPU playing a lot better but if I stick to smart play I can create goals.
I love this game and I think this scripting complaints is the biggest myth in sports gaming. If it happened so often people would have clear videos of 90 strength defenders getting bodied by 40 strength CPU players because the game scripted a late goal. Or situations that could clearly show the game wasn't playing true the ratings and play at hand. You know what game you can do that in? Madden. You all should play a season of Madden and you'll come running back to the gameplay of FIFA. This game is the most fair sports game. Go look at all the complaints about 2k and contested shots going, people feel cheated by the game but when showed video evidence people pointed out bad defense. This game is all about knowing the controls and executing them properly. There are some tricky things about positioning and defender help AI but once I learned those through trial and error I have no issues defending.
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