Seriously, play on legendary

[Resurrection403]

Re: Seriously, play on legendary

so i've gone to some extreme measures to start scoring some goals. CPU gk to 10. CPU marking to 25. may have to tone that down; just got a hattrick with Vazquez. But hes 80. SO ya,

[Altimus]

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5 games. five. 80 minutes of my life wasted. zero goals scored in 80 minutes.

i take back my recommendation from post one. legendary is a waste of time.

I still think your issue is you're playing way too short halves.

I think this year 15 minute halves is the right spot.

[Resurrection403]

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I still think your issue is you're playing way too short halves.

I think this year 15 minute halves is the right spot.

15 min halves aint happening.... i want to play all the games in my manager mode, no simming

[ImTellinTim]

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Agree completely on 15-min halves. What's preventing you from playing all the games using 15-minute halves? So you get a couple fewer games in per session. What's the hurry?

[aarontab]

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To each their own, but if I had to play on 15 min halves to make the game play more gooder I'd start looking for alternative difficulty levels.

[xicpanad]

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To me, Pro level is optimal to 7-10 mins halves, no more, no less. In fact, 10 mis is the most I want to take to play a game. It´s not too much, and its enough time to come back if I start loosing.

I´m trying Legendary sometimes, but Pro level has that something were I always feel I have a challenge and still can win lots of games. Its a great balance but not out of the box. It may get too easy sometimes, but I´m very, very close to achieve a slider set to make the matches challenging both for me an CPU, without lowering CPU ability too much.

[Altimus]

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To each their own, but if I had to play on 15 min halves to make the game play more gooder I'd start looking for alternative difficulty levels.

A 30 minute game is not that long. Especially considering we're trying to replicate stats that happen in a real life game that are 90 minutes long. Every year we complain about sim game play, build up play, etc. but now we get it and we try to get realistic stats in a small 15 minute game? To each their own indeed but unless you're looking for an arcade experience, you can't get a sim experience for a 90 minute game while playing only 16% of it.

To me Legendary \ slow \ 15 minutes halves is the way to go. Last year with the frantic action 10 minute halves were good enough for Legendary but not this year because of the build up play and you have to work hard to break down the AI to score.

[aarontab]

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A 30 minute game is not that long. Especially considering we're trying to replicate stats that happen in a real life game that are 90 minutes long. Every year we complain about sim game play, build up play, etc. but now we get it and we try to get realistic stats in a small 15 minute game? To each their own indeed but unless you're looking for an arcade experience, you can't get a sim experience for a 90 minute game while playing only 16% of it.



To me Legendary \ slow \ 15 minutes halves is the way to go. Last year with the frantic action 10 minute halves were good enough for Legendary but not this year because of the build up play and you have to work hard to break down the AI to score.

I'm not being contradictory for the sake of it, but statistically speaking, you're not getting realistic statistics out of 33% of a full match either. There is more in common with a 8 min half game and a 15 min half game than there is with a 45 min half game, which obviously isn't even an option.

It's personal preference obviously, but claiming that 15 min halves are more sim than 8 is equal to making the claim that having 33% of your leg is better than only having 16%. Longer? Sure, but negligibly different if you're looking for the real thing.


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[Altimus]

Re: Seriously, play on legendary

I'm not being contradictory for the sake of it, but statistically speaking, you're not getting realistic statistics out of 33% of a full match either. There is more in common with a 8 min half game and a 15 min half game than there is with a 45 min half game, which obviously isn't even an option.

It's personal preference obviously, but claiming that 15 min halves are more sim than 8 is equal to making the claim that having 33% of your leg is better than only having 16%. Longer? Sure, but negligibly different if you're looking for the real thing.


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I agree but I'm sure we will never find the real thing. I don't think FIFA even offers a full 90 minute option anymore. lol - But doubling the time fixes the issue here of not getting enough shots\goals. And an extra 15 minutes in video game time is a long time. That's all I'm saying. I doubt any game now or in the future will replicate or come close to a 90 minute football game.

In 2K I play 12 minute quarters and I except sim stats\results. I never come into PES\FIFA expecting such because it's impossible. We're taking a 90 minute game and trying to get the experience in a small window. Like I said, in this case because of the difficulty of the AI and their approach, more time is needed to get shots and goals that are realistic to what a normal game would bring.

[aarontab]

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I agree but I'm sure we will never find the real thing. I don't think FIFA even offers a full 90 minute option anymore. lol - But doubling the time fixes the issue here of not getting enough shots\goals. And an extra 15 minutes in video game time is a long time. That's all I'm saying. I doubt any game now or in the future will replicate or come close to a 90 minute football game.

In 2K I play 12 minute quarters and I except sim stats\results. I never come into PES\FIFA expecting such because it's impossible. We're taking a 90 minute game and trying to get the experience in a small window. Like I said, in this case because of the difficulty of the AI and their approach, more time is needed to get shots and goals that are realistic to what a normal game would bring.

That's undoubtedly true. The sweet spot for me is 8 min now, I used to be a 10min half guy before and last year I played 6. I also will say, this year, games feel like they blow by in terms of time because, as you mentioned, build up takes a bit longer if you're actually going to be effective.


I personally couldn't do 15 and enjoy a season but I respect those of you who can - it's all about what you enjoy. I was just echoing Resurrection's sentiments and mentioning that if a difficulty needs an adjustment that makes it unappealing to a large percentage of the people playing the game, that could be a fundamental flaw. My guess tbh is that scoring would be identical on 8 min or 15 min on legendary and the deciding factor is more the skill of the individual than the length of the half...

[Resurrection403]

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To each their own, but if I had to play on 15 min halves to make the game play more gooder I'd start looking for alternative difficulty levels.

I've changed back to pro. Found a decent slider set I'm hoping will keep me challenged.

[xicpanad]

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I've changed back to pro. Found a decent slider set I'm hoping will keep me challenged.

Could you spec wich slider you use please?

[SpritePuck]

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Talking about the time thing... Oddly one thing I love about FIFA is you do not have to play full time to have decent stats.

2K for example is tough for me to play 82 games with at least 10 min quarters or your stats will not be close. While I respect that sim, it is just not possible for me to play multiple seasons... To get through the season in The Show I play one and then sim three. Basketball and NFL games are just hard to get realistic stats and not play really lengthy games. Though I respect how good they are on full length time settings.

I like that FIFA is good sim but I also like that I can get a whole game in within 30 minutes without button mashing through cutscenes.

[Zac]

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I don't know if it is legendary, or slider changes coupled with legendary. But this game plays like pure **** all the sudden. Its not playing like it does at all on Pro. My AI teammates no longer go for lose balls. They back away from in a scripted manner like in 15. Even if it is inches from their feet, they back peddle away from it. My guys will be about to get a pass, and just start running away from the ball, allowing the cpu player to get it. My passes seem to have some extra error applied to them if I make more than 8 in a row, every time. I also have seen my defenders run away from the incoming ball handler to cover a spot where there is no player, allowing a goal. I try to switch to them to move them back, and it switches to someone further away from the ball. Also why when I hit the change player doe s it never switch who it should. It always switches to someone who is farther away from the ball. Also the cpu is just taking the ball from me at will, nothing I do seems to matter. Yet I can' get within a yard of them without them pulling off some crazy cut move to get away from me.

I'm seeing a whole bunch of dumb **** like this. And I am just not having fun playing the game anymore. I'm at the point where my playing is more frustrating than fun, and I don't want to even play the game. Its either too easy on Pro, even with slider adjustments. Or its insanely frustrating and I just get angry. Why can't the harder difficulties actually be harder and play the same as pro. Why do they have to have all this extra artificial difficulty to make it hard. It feels like you get cheated. Well, it feels that way because you are, lol.

[Zac]

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Also the end of the game "magic" is ridiculous. I battled a team for 88 minutes to a draw. Then all the sudden they score 3 goals in 3 minutes. Come on.