FIFA 22 OS Community Sliders

[DoctorActionRio]

Re: FIFA 22 OS Community Sliders

Xbox Series X - 15 Minutes Halves - Full Manual Controls - World Class - Slow Speed - Version 8 World Class Set

@adoptedscouse I've been toying around with height/length/width given the spacing issues and also thinking all the teams are sticking a bit deep since the update. Seems like higher pressing has been nuked a bit -- so trying to draw teams out a bit, while still trying to find a way to make the teams compact from a length and width end.. your numbers are pretty extreme (curious how they would work) but have been using this in slightly tweaking our old values..

Height U:47 CPU: 47
Length: U:36 CPU: 38
Width: U: 58 CPU: 60

I'm happy from a defensive standpoint with this -- but from a width standpoint attackers aren't getting as wide -- even with some of the custom tactics.. but could be something to work with as well.

I just played against Arsenal again with my previous reported changes, plus those line length 18/20 and line width 32/30. Must confess I really liked it! Didn't feel those occasional improper "plenty of space moments" like before.

I see that what adoptedscouse did was decrease 20 and 30 points, respectively. In other words, a 50% reduction. Anyway, really don't know this is drastic or not in gameplay terms, mainly after so many patches and live tunings.

Curiously, my game ended 2 x 1 for them again, just like with previous values.

[1860fan]

Re: FIFA 22 OS Community Sliders

Hello Action Rio will you stick with line length 18/20 and line width 32/30? or will you test a few more games with it..? i will try it later too.</pre>

[DoctorActionRio]

Re: FIFA 22 OS Community Sliders

Xbox Series X - 15 Minutes Halves - Full Manual Controls - World Class - Slow Speed - Version 8 World Class Set

Hello Action Rio will you stick with line length 18/20 and line width 32/30? or will you test a few more games with it..? i will try it later too.</pre>

For now, I'm sticking with it. Played one more game, the FA Cup final against West Ham, and I can't notice exaggerated spaces or pressure. Since I'm on 15 minutes halves, I play fewer matches. Next one is against Chelsea and I will report back.

[Typho2k]

Re: FIFA 22 OS Community Sliders

Im playing Last Gen version, and it doesn't really help adjusting passing or GK error sliders. Barely any difference even if you put error to max, this goes especially for GK's.

Seeing as I was tired of GK's saving every shot that wasn't an exploitshot,
I went to edit the GK stats of the opposing team to 1 in all stats and put GK error slider to both max and minimum and it barely made a difference from a prime Neuer on steroids.

You could spend an entire day trying proper long shot (no exploits) on these 1 stat GK's with slider set to max error and you wouldn't score even 1 goal.

I encourage others to test this out.

The base stats (the ones we can't edit), before sliders, are just tooooo high.

[racingsantander]

Re: FIFA 22 OS Community Sliders

Xbox Series X - 15 Minutes Halves - Full Manual Controls - World Class - Slow Speed - Version 8 World Class Set

For now, I'm sticking with it. Played one more game, the FA Cup final against West Ham, and I can't notice exaggerated spaces or pressure. Since I'm on 15 minutes halves, I play fewer matches. Next one is against Chelsea and I will report back.

Interesting -- do you feel like you need to do anything with height? With some of the latest updates, I felt like every CPU team was sitting in a pretty low block regardless of their custom tactics set up.

[Dzoni123]

Re: FIFA 22 OS Community Sliders

2) Using 75/75 for marking and the CPU defensive behavior is outstanding. As shown below, I think even assisted players can probably be satisfied.

Playing on legendary, I am not witnessing CPU defensive behavior as you showed in your examples (Thank you for testing and recording it by the way). There is much more space in my games than in yours. It could be because I am playing in the Championship and the teams are worse and have different tactics, but that is just my guess. All the other sliders are the same (marking on 75, as you proposed)

[DoctorActionRio]

Re: FIFA 22 OS Community Sliders

Xbox Series X - 15 Minutes Halves - Full Manual Controls - World Class - Slow Speed - Version 8 World Class Set

Interesting -- do you feel like you need to do anything with height? With some of the latest updates, I felt like every CPU team was sitting in a pretty low block regardless of their custom tactics set up.

Didn't have much time to test height, but I did try 50/50 for a while, just to be sure I would be able to actually notice the difference, but immediately went back to 45/45. CPU defense stayed excessively in the midfield during gameplay. I felt it caused an improper behavior.

I really don't know if this slider just affects their positions when the ball is near the midfield or if we can notice something different when the ball is near the box. Really need help from more experienced people here.

[DoctorActionRio]

Re: FIFA 22 OS Community Sliders

Xbox Series X - 15 Minutes Halves - Full Manual Controls - World Class - Slow Speed - Version 8 World Class Set



Well, here we go again.

Using 55/55 sprint speed, I found this severe defensive line integrity issue, where not only one, but two CPU defenders desperately run with my attacker. Not only improper, but a bizarre behavior, mainly because they didn't need to follow him so much in this specific situation.

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So I had to decrease to 54/54 to check what would happen, in a effort to definitely end with centre back improper jockey/shuffle, since 53/53 also started to have it annoyingly more than before, after these updates, but avoiding these weird situations shown above.

By the way, it's insane how much we can feel the speed difference between 53, 54 and 55. It's like 55 is where the pace really starts to be overly fast. 53 is better, of course, but 54 is really, really, really better than 55.

As you will see, 54/54 still have some "contextual" defenders running back moments, where I think at least most of them are actually more proper than improper. At the same time, still no jockey/shuffle, which is GREAT!


01 - We must admit West Ham defender didn't need to follow Ronaldo so much, but who knows if I was about to use a long ball behind him if he didn't care so much to mark a way faster player. In real life, this would be plausible. I think it was the right decision in the beginning.

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02 - This one here is PERFECT! West Ham counter attack and just notice how Varane, WHILE STILL CONTROLLED BY THE AI, starts to follow their player. If the defensive line integrity was the priority here, I would NEVER be able to catch him!

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Rxd5YIhPvmQ" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>


03 - All CPU defenders properly running back. This is the typical kind of play that we know would immediately trigger a centre back jockey/shuffle!

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/PZNswGOdoBo" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>


04 - Two things here. West Ham number 4 properly follows Lingard. Honestly I don't feel this could be an improper defensive line integrity issue. Also, I'm still pretty much out of space. These marking, length and width values are really great!

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/rPUHtYKG9wE" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>


05 - Finally, another play that maybe would trigger jockey/shuffle before. And, again, it's so enjoyable how desperately CPU is marking and closing spaces here.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/uZ-NOojjWEU" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>


I honestly hope all of this can be helpful. I use my phone to upload, write and edit everything, so it's a bit of a tough process, makes the hand hurt a little. But at least it's a way to better show what I experience here!

Cheers from Rio de Janeiro!

[msrajjc2]

Re: FIFA 22 OS Community Sliders

Xbox Series X - 15 Minutes Halves - Full Manual Controls - World Class - Slow Speed - Version 8 World Class Set



Well, here we go again.

Using 55/55 sprint speed, I found this severe defensive line integrity issue, where not only one, but two CPU defenders desperately run with my attacker. Not only improper, but a bizarre behavior, mainly because they didn't need to follow him so much in this specific situation.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/yF0dgTFE8EQ" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

So I had to decrease to 54/54 to check what would happen, in a effort to definitely end with centre back improper jockey/shuffle, since 53/53 also started to have it annoyingly more than before, after these updates, but avoiding these weird situations shown above.

By the way, it's insane how much we can feel the speed difference between 53, 54 and 55. It's like 55 is where the pace really starts to be overly fast. 53 is better, of course, but 54 is really, really, really better than 55.

As you will see, 54/54 still have some "contextual" defenders running back moments, where I think at least most of them are actually more proper than improper. At the same time, still no jockey/shuffle, which is GREAT!


01 - We must admit West Ham defender didn't need to follow Ronaldo so much, but who knows if I was about to use a long ball behind him if he didn't care so much to mark a way faster player. In real life, this would be plausible. I think it was the right decision in the beginning.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/tG4fffhZvuI" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>


02 - This one here is PERFECT! West Ham counter attack and just notice how Varane, WHILE STILL CONTROLLED BY THE AI, starts to follow their player. If the defensive line integrity was the priority here, I would NEVER be able to catch him!

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Rxd5YIhPvmQ" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>


03 - All CPU defenders properly running back. This is the typical kind of play that we know would immediately trigger a centre back jockey/shuffle!

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/PZNswGOdoBo" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>


04 - Two things here. West Ham number 4 properly follows Lingard. Honestly I don't feel this could be an improper defensive line integrity issue. Also, I'm still pretty much out of space. These marking, length and width values are really great!

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/rPUHtYKG9wE" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>


05 - Finally, another play that maybe would trigger jockey/shuffle before. And, again, it's so enjoyable how desperately CPU is marking and closing spaces here.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/uZ-NOojjWEU" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>


I honestly hope all of this can be helpful. I use my phone to upload, write and edit everything, so it's a bit of a tough process, makes the hand hurt a little. But at least it's a way to better show what I experience here!

Cheers from Rio de Janeiro!

many thanks for such a thorough and well-researched post. i've only recently started using OS sliders, using the latest version of 'Shorter Halves Legendary' with assisted controls. i've only played 3-4 games and, although it's a huge improvement on 'vanilla' FIFA (i.e. default sliders), i managed to score a very easy goal by waiting on the edge of the opposition box for my midfielder to make a run in the channel (between the LB and LCB) and slip in a through ball for him to basically walk into the box and score unchallenged.

if i continue to experience such things i will try your sliders hoping that it increases the CPU defensive 'intensity' and reduces the space between the defenders (which i think is 'line width'?).

thanks again!

[abbes]

Re: FIFA 22 OS Community Sliders

These marking, length and width values are really great!

So what are the values of HLW you’re using now mate?

[msrajjc2]

Re: FIFA 22 OS Community Sliders

So what are the values of HLW you’re using now mate?

i think it's in the descriptions of the videos above, i.e. Mark 75/75 - Length 18/20 - Width 32/30

[abbes]

Re: FIFA 22 OS Community Sliders

i think it's in the descriptions of the videos above, i.e. Mark 75/75 - Length 18/20 - Width 32/30

Oh shoot, I missed it, thanks mate.

[msrajjc2]

Re: FIFA 22 OS Community Sliders

Playing on legendary, I am not witnessing CPU defensive behavior as you showed in your examples (Thank you for testing and recording it by the way). There is much more space in my games than in yours. It could be because I am playing in the Championship and the teams are worse and have different tactics, but that is just my guess. All the other sliders are the same (marking on 75, as you proposed)

are you playing next- or old-gen?

[DusanM]

Re: FIFA 22 OS Community Sliders

Hello, I'm using shorter halves legendary set, and it's hard to score goals, which I wanted to do, but what is annoying to me that every opposition shot is very fast and is almost always a goal, and they score screamers often. My goalkeeper feels useless at times, so should I change some values or what? At the end of the match, opposition has like 4-5 shots and 3-4 goals... I feel like my defending is good, I don't think it's the problem.

[msrajjc2]

Re: FIFA 22 OS Community Sliders

i'm playing on old gen (pc), 6 min halves, using the 'legendary shorter halves' set, normal speed, assisted controls

overall it's good, but every few games--the most recent one in particular--the CPU are in 'kamikaze' mode and press like crazy. if you beat the press, you're in and it's basically a guaranteed goal. their wingbacks for example are outside my penalty box and they don't track back:

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<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/WPvXtDb2CMM" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

as i say it's not every game but when it happens it just breaks the immersion as it's so easy to score.

anyone know why it might be happening / how it can be fixed?