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  • rckabillyRaider
    MVP
    • Jul 2008
    • 4382

    #196
    Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

    Originally posted by jvalverde88
    I'm hoping pategato over at pes gaming makes a La Liga Option file for PS3 like he did last year. I really want to do a La Liga Master league.
    La Liga is licensed this year. You mean the 2nd division?

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    • jvalverde88
      Moderator
      • Jun 2008
      • 11787

      #197
      Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

      Originally posted by rckabillyRaider
      La Liga is licensed this year. You mean the 2nd division?
      Yup, hate playing against the fake 2nd division teams.
      Mets/Giants/Knicks/Rangers/Manchester United/Notre Dame Football

      Never let fear determine who you are. Never let where you came from determine where you are going.

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      • rckabillyRaider
        MVP
        • Jul 2008
        • 4382

        #198
        Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

        Originally posted by jvalverde88
        Yup, hate playing against the fake 2nd division teams.
        ahhh, got ya. Same here.

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        • slthree
          MVP
          • Sep 2003
          • 2529

          #199
          Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

          I only have demo 1.
          What is demo 2?
          How is it different from 1?

          I'm on PS3, by the way

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          • LingeringRegime
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jun 2007
            • 17089

            #200
            Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

            Originally posted by aloncho11
            The fun factor is endless, because every match you play, even if it's against the same team, it is different.
            Welcome to the world of PES. More true than ever this year.

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            • jvalverde88
              Moderator
              • Jun 2008
              • 11787

              #201
              Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

              Originally posted by slthree
              I only have demo 1.
              What is demo 2?
              How is it different from 1?

              I'm on PS3, by the way
              Yeah, I believe North American PSN hasn't gotten the 2nd demo yet.
              Mets/Giants/Knicks/Rangers/Manchester United/Notre Dame Football

              Never let fear determine who you are. Never let where you came from determine where you are going.

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              • LingeringRegime
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jun 2007
                • 17089

                #202
                Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

                Originally posted by slthree
                I only have demo 1.
                What is demo 2?
                How is it different from 1?

                I'm on PS3, by the way
                Demo 2 has different teams (Inter, Tottenham Hotspur, Rangers FC, Bayern Munich).

                The goalie are fixed (they weren't very good in Demo 1)

                The speed has been bumped up a little.

                Demo 1 was like a Beta of sorts, Demo 2 is what the final product will be like.

                It is available in the UK Store.

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                • slthree
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 2529

                  #203
                  Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

                  Darn, I had a euro account but with the new security since the anonymous takedown, I have to enter a new password and it won't let me do it through the pS3.

                  And, I used a bogus email so I can't retrieve instructions there
                  ================================================== =====

                  Found instructions to set up another Euro account and am downloading demo 2 now

                  Originally posted by DEFTFUNDAMENTALZ
                  Demo 2 has different teams (Inter, Tottenham Hotspur, Rangers FC, Bayern Munich).

                  The goalie are fixed (they weren't very good in Demo 1)

                  The speed has been bumped up a little.

                  Demo 1 was like a Beta of sorts, Demo 2 is what the final product will be like.

                  It is available in the UK Store.
                  Last edited by slthree; 09-19-2011, 02:24 AM.

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                  • LingeringRegime
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 17089

                    #204
                    Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

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                    • DemiGodzillla
                      Rookie
                      • May 2011
                      • 374

                      #205
                      Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

                      Originally posted by DEFTFUNDAMENTALZ
                      <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/WDDCS9GkwDo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
                      Can't stop laughing at your sig, and people wonder why FIFA outsells PES...
                      Red Sox, Giants, Knicks, Liverpool FC, Bruins, UConn

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                      • instantpop
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 374

                        #206
                        Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

                        Originally posted by DEFTFUNDAMENTALZ
                        Demo 2 has different teams (Inter, Tottenham Hotspur, Rangers FC, Bayern Munich).

                        The goalie are fixed (they weren't very good in Demo 1)

                        The speed has been bumped up a little.

                        Demo 1 was like a Beta of sorts, Demo 2 is what the final product will be like.

                        It is available in the UK Store.
                        If we're being honest, they aren't very good in Demo 2 either.

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                        • elprez98
                          MVP
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 4237

                          #207
                          Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

                          Originally posted by instantpop
                          If we're being honest, they aren't very good in Demo 2 either.
                          What is the problem with the keepers?
                          Originally posted by My Wife
                          "The Celtics only won because they have a magical elf playing for their team...."

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                          • PeruvianPlaya954
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 1463

                            #208
                            Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

                            Originally posted by instantpop
                            If we're being honest, they aren't very good in Demo 2 either.
                            What? Goalkeepers are fine. What do you want? Super-Man goalkeepers?

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                            • PeruvianPlaya954
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 1463

                              #209
                              Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

                              Originally posted by DemiGodzillla
                              Can't stop laughing at your sig, and people wonder why FIFA outsells PES...
                              I'm confused about it. Is the guy complaining about graphics NOT being fixed or gameplay NOT being fixed?

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                              • elprez98
                                MVP
                                • Dec 2003
                                • 4237

                                #210
                                Re: PES 2012 Demo 2 Impressions/Discussion

                                Here was my honest comparison of the two games back when demo #1 was released and I believe it still holds true. Although after playing FIFA I think it will be a good game for the league I'll be playing in, but I probably won't play too much against the CPU:


                                I am genuinely amazed watching how well the computer marks offensive players on the pitch. In FIFA, defenders are stagnant, and defensive shape is mainly defined by simply keeping a defender between the offensive player and the goal. This is one of the main reasons that "ping-pong" passing still exists on FIFA and will likely still exist on FIFA 12. Not the case on PES 2012.

                                On PES 2012, you can feel more secure that players are usually pretty well marked, and defenders recognize open players. Thye make efforts to remain marked on their assigned man and prevent their marking to even receive a pass. As Milan (I play with them a lot. I mean who doesn't like using Robinho), I noticed that a pressing defense like Napoli, will close down hard on Robinho to make sure I don't get a lot of time to create for the big Swede up front.

                                I may have stated this before, but you hardly find an unmarked player on corner and crosses on the PES 2012 demo. If he is unmarked, he is probably off-sides. Most of you know that my biggest issue with FIFA is unmarked players on corners and crosses. Also, the keeper plays a lot better than FIFA. The keeper reacts on most balls in the box, not just the one's that bounce 3 feet in front of him, minimizing unrealistic cheap goals.

                                In my opinion, the ball physics in PES has always been better than FIFA. FIFA has always seemed to have the magnetic quality where the ball will go to the player. On PES (again this is my opinion), it seems that the game is programmed where the players are magnetic to the ball and not the other way around (if that makes any sense), which is why you see such a larger range of shots and deflections that are hardly created on FIFA.

                                Playing this game, I think that you can immediately recognize the two different paths that each developer is taking to get to where they want to be for a football simulation. PES took an inside-out path. Meaning, since the release of this generation of consoles, the PES team seemed to be more focused on making sure the AI autonomously played the game like it is played on the pitch. As we all know though, the graphics looked like crap and the interactions between the players was horrid.

                                FIFA on the other hand, went outside-in. FIFA made a beautiful game with amazing and intuitive controls. Also the player/player interaction was unmatched by PES. However, you would pull your hair out at some of the stupid runs CPU teammates made and the fact that the game seemed very restrictive on assisted controls and there was little to no error in the passing. Real-world physics addition on FIFA is a confirmation of the outside-in theory.

                                Probably since I love the sport, I love both games. Before this year, PES was more cerebral and for a football (soccer) connoisseur. It didn't have that "pick up and play" attractiveness that FIFA allowed for. I mainly played it for its BAL(Become-A-Legend) mode since the players played so realistically on the pitch. I don't think that's the case with this year's PES offering, because PES has that pick up and play quality this year.

                                I don't think I've had this much fun with a football demo since FIFA '09, so we'll see Sept 13th what FIFA has to offer. But I'm telling you guys now, if FIFA still has issues like laser accurate passing on semi, suction headers, and crappy keeping I'm only buying PES 2012 this year.
                                Originally posted by My Wife
                                "The Celtics only won because they have a magical elf playing for their team...."

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