***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

[ZM Punk]

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Anybody else want to see if we can offload Arshavin, Diaby, Bendtner or maybe even Chamakh in any way to Liverpool and try to get Torres. I know there's only today to get a deal done but Torres could be the key man in deciding whether or not we win a title this year or just challenge for the next 3 like the past 5.

Not worth the money and he wouldn't be that great in this system anyway.

[Perceptor]

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Wenger wouldn't spend 50 million on anyone. That's what makes him unique. For better and worse, he looks for bargains, youth and development and sells when players hit their 30's.

I would prefer this and the club making money than spending huge and taking a risk. Torres is a fantastic player, but his injury history has to be a huge concern.

[Krebstar]

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I can't help but relate all this spending to Arsenal, and it's not too hard.

£50 million for Torres and £35 million for Carroll just further set a precedent and show that if the bastards from Barcelona ever want to seriously buy Cesc, they'll be paying at least £50 million for him.

Actually, someone paying £35 million for Carroll means that if anyone ever wants to buy Carlos Vela, they'll have to pay at least £36 million. Ha.

[Mo]

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I can't help but relate all this spending to Arsenal, and it's not too hard.

£50 million for Torres and £35 million for Carroll just further set a precedent and show that if the bastards from Barcelona ever want to seriously buy Cesc, they'll be paying at least £50 million for him.

Actually, someone paying £35 million for Carroll means that if anyone ever wants to buy Carlos Vela, they'll have to pay at least £36 million. Ha.

Except Cesc and Vela arent British, so their price tag will be much less

[misterbroom12]

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Except Cesc and Vela arent British, so their price tag will be much less

Torres is Spanish and went for 50M. With his age and history of injury paired with the "importance to the club" factor still being sold for that much means we should see at least 60M for Fabregas. If all the clubs are showing that they are willing to vastly overspend for players, we might as well try to change the way things are done or make Barca vastly overspend.

As for asking if anyone thought we should buy Torres, I was fully aware it wouldn't happen and that Wenger never spends that much cash on one player. I just felt that if we could send Arshavin their way and lower the price, we would be adding a few more years to a forward and while risking another injury with Torres, Arshavins form right now isn't the best making it a little less risky in my eyes. Plus, I am very uneasy seeing him at Chelski now.

[Mo]

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English Clubs are more likely to overspend. Even more when they are british players.

Clubs wont be willing to do that for Vela and Cesc. Even Barca wont go higher than 45-50M on Cesc.

Lets face it, he aint CR7, or Messi.

[Krebstar]

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English Clubs are more likely to overspend. Even more when they are british players.

Clubs wont be willing to do that for Vela and Cesc. Even Barca wont go higher than 45-50M on Cesc.

Lets face it, he aint CR7, or Messi.

If Barca don't go higher than 40-45, they won't get him. Arsenal have already stood up to them and said he's not for sale and I can see them doing it again.

I actually don't even see a bid coming from Barca, as they're heavily in debt.

You say Cesc is no Ronaldo or Messi, and I say it's not a proper comparison. Fabregas creates more goals, those two score more goals. It's not apples to apples.

Me saying a bid from Barca would be high is me just assessing the situation this Summer, but I truly believe he will not go as Barca have said themselves they can not spend money.

[Krebstar]

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Also, great result today over Everton. Especially considering the worst missed offside call I've seen in a very long time.

[ZM Punk]

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English Clubs are more likely to overspend. Even more when they are british players.

Clubs wont be willing to do that for Vela and Cesc. Even Barca wont go higher than 45-50M on Cesc.

Lets face it, he aint CR7, or Messi.

Too bad we aren't dealing with a stupid English team. Also its not like Barca or Madrid haven't had a big history of overspending.

Like Kreb said, if they don't get an offer we like, we won't sell. These over inflated prices are a good negotiating chip. If Torres can get 50 and Andy Carroll can get 35, Cesc is worth no less than 50. I don't care if he is English or not.

Barcelona wanted Cesc to hand in a transfer request so bad last season it isn't even funny. As you remember they had a different Barca player come out in the press everyday for about a month begging Cesc to turn in a request and yet he still didn't.

They know that they will have to come in with a sizeable offer if they want him and I doubt there pride will allow them to wait his contract out.

[rsnomar05]

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Also, great result today over Everton. Especially considering the worst missed offside call I've seen in a very long time.

Yeah, it was terrible. I thought at the half that they were going to lose, draw at best, and that this game might be the end of Arsenal's title hopes, but they showed a lot of resiliency in the second half and played well despite not having Nasri. Rosicky, however, made little impact, and if Arshavin can go on a run of good form, I would rather see him out wide.

[Krebstar]

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Arsène Wenger blasts Chelsea for hypocrisy over £75m transfer spree
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...elsea-transfer

Another reason I love Arsene. I know he often gets grief from people, sometimes rightfully so, but I love it when he says what everyone else is thinking.

[Mo]

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Too bad we aren't dealing with a stupid English team.

lol, I'm sure you can get Spurs to offer 80M for Cesc

[misterbroom12]

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lol, I'm sure you can get Spurs to offer 80M for Cesc

I'd want us to hand him to Barca for free before letting him go to Spuds.

[Mo]

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Sounds like Szczesny injured Fabianski in training.

[ZM Punk]

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lol, I'm sure you can get Spurs to offer 80M for Cesc

Wenger should come out and lie and say Cesc is really English and not Spanish. Then sit back and watch as Spurs and Liverpool come running with their checkbooks.