***The Official Arsenal Gunners" Thread***

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  • Krebstar
    is looking at stats.
    • May 2005
    • 12904

    #2536
    Re: ***The Official Arsenal "Gunners" Thread***

    Originally posted by Perceptor
    Kreb the only teams that could afford 50 million are City and Chelsea. They probably couldn't afford losing out on CL spots because there would be NO way that they could balance the books signing Cesc for sure
    Well, that is what I mean. Can they pay it, yes. Can they pay it and not be severely in debt, no. It's the main reason I don't see a bid coming from Barca this Summer. They're seriously in debt and have even said they must address it. It's times like these where I love supporting a financially sound club.

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    • Perceptor
      MVP
      • Jun 2003
      • 4364

      #2537
      Re: ***The Official Arsenal "Gunners" Thread***

      How true. You can tell now that other teams want to emulate the Arsenal style. Heck, I even do that when I manage another team in Football Manager.

      While there aren't any drafts in football, you need to develop your own players to win consistently. Having said that, my only issue with Wenger is that he's so stubborn to his system that it can hurt him. I know he hates overpaying for players, but we were crying for a centre-back and he didn't buy one. It's not because he doesn't have money to spend either

      Sigh. It can't all be perfect all the time eh?

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      • rsnomar05
        MVP
        • Dec 2003
        • 3662

        #2538
        Re: ***The Official Arsenal "Gunners" Thread***

        Originally posted by Perceptor
        How true. You can tell now that other teams want to emulate the Arsenal style. Heck, I even do that when I manage another team in Football Manager.

        While there aren't any drafts in football, you need to develop your own players to win consistently. Having said that, my only issue with Wenger is that he's so stubborn to his system that it can hurt him. I know he hates overpaying for players, but we were crying for a centre-back and he didn't buy one. It's not because he doesn't have money to spend either

        Sigh. It can't all be perfect all the time eh?
        That's my main gripe. I love the Arsenal system, but there are a few times where I feel they hurt themselves by refusing to pay more than they value a player.

        The Red Sox have a similar philosophy. They set a value on a guy for how much they feel he is worth and will not overpay. As a result they have lost out on some big name free agents, but they've developed so well from within (Youkilis, Pedroia, Lester, etc.) that they are able to consistently contend. The difference is that they will, on rare occasion, overpay if they feel they absolutely have to. The Sox were short on outfield depth and offered Carl Crawford more than he was worth. They desperately needed another outfielder, Crawford was the only quality alternative left on the market, and they made their move. Now obviously the transfer market and the free agent system are entirely different animals, but I wish Wenger would take this approach. If he had, we likely would have had a new defender come to team in January. I'm not saying become the Yankees (Chelsea, Man City, etc.) and throw tons of money around, but I'd rather be like the Sox (only spend what you have but occasionally overpay) than the Tampa Bay Rays (rarely spend at all, only develop from within). I know baseball and soccer are different, but a friend made the analogy earlier, and I thought it fit quite well. If horrid defending costs us down the stretch we might be looking back at January and ruing our failure to bring someone in, especially when Wenger admitted defense was a major need.

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        • ZM Punk
          We Spent Some Money!
          • Feb 2003
          • 6260

          #2539
          Re: ***The Official Arsenal "Gunners" Thread***

          I think it would be a moot point either way. I don't Cesc would accept a transfer to Chelsea even if the club agreed to sell.

          The only reason Torres went to Chelsea is because he was tired of losing and not playing in the Champions League. We don't currently have that problem.
          "The academic support at Ohio State, there is no way you can fail. Even if you're giving minimal effort there is no way you can fail."

          Adolphus Washington-Ohio State Freshman

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          • ZM Punk
            We Spent Some Money!
            • Feb 2003
            • 6260

            #2540
            Re: ***The Official Arsenal "Gunners" Thread***

            Looks like we may have good news for a change when it comes to injuries with Djourou.
            "The academic support at Ohio State, there is no way you can fail. Even if you're giving minimal effort there is no way you can fail."

            Adolphus Washington-Ohio State Freshman

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            • Krebstar
              is looking at stats.
              • May 2005
              • 12904

              #2541
              Re: ***The Official Arsenal "Gunners" Thread***

              Originally posted by ZM Punk
              I think it would be a moot point either way. I don't Cesc would accept a transfer to Chelsea even if the club agreed to sell.

              The only reason Torres went to Chelsea is because he was tired of losing and not playing in the Champions League. We don't currently have that problem.
              That is what I told someone yesterday. That Cesc wouldn't go anywhere else int he league. Would he go to Barca? Obviously. But someone else in England? Extremely unlikely.

              As for Djourou, only bruising it seems. Huge, huge news if it turns out to be true.

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              • barryf1fan
                Rookie
                • May 2010
                • 181

                #2542
                Re: ***The Official Arsenal "Gunners" Thread***

                Originally posted by Krebstar
                That is what I told someone yesterday. That Cesc wouldn't go anywhere else int he league. Would he go to Barca? Obviously. But someone else in England? Extremely unlikely.

                As for Djourou, only bruising it seems. Huge, huge news if it turns out to be true.
                That would be great news...

                but what to do with the other two??

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                • Krebstar
                  is looking at stats.
                  • May 2005
                  • 12904

                  #2543
                  Re: ***The Official Arsenal "Gunners" Thread***

                  Originally posted by barryf1fan
                  That would be great news...

                  but what to do with the other two??
                  Hope they combine into one player? Young and athletic but with experience?

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                  • barryf1fan
                    Rookie
                    • May 2010
                    • 181

                    #2544
                    Re: ***The Official Arsenal "Gunners" Thread***

                    Maybe Wenger could do a buy one - get one free deal like some stores do.

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                    • Perceptor
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 4364

                      #2545
                      Re: ***The Official Arsenal "Gunners" Thread***

                      If he could sell Squillaci for free, I'd be happy at this point.

                      Cesc won't go to Chelsea period. He genuinely loves Arsenal and has always tried to be respectful of the fans even when he wanted to go to Barca. If not Barca, then he will stay at Arsenal. I have no doubts about that piece.

                      Now I have a question. What's the best way to get Arsenal tickets?

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                      • Acid
                        Mr. Brightside
                        • May 2003
                        • 16954

                        #2546
                        Re: ***The Official Arsenal "Gunners" Thread***

                        I wouldn't take Squillaci on my indoor team.
                        Blind to this impending fate
                        We let the world carry our weight
                        It's back breaks with every mile
                        But we all live in denial

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                        • rsnomar05
                          MVP
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 3662

                          #2547
                          Re: ***The Official Arsenal "Gunners" Thread***

                          Originally posted by Acid
                          I wouldn't take Squillaci on my indoor team.
                          Neither would I. My indoor team's defense is top notch. We rarely concede. And unlike Arsenal, we can defend free kicks.

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                          • ZM Punk
                            We Spent Some Money!
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 6260

                            #2548
                            Re: ***The Official Arsenal "Gunners" Thread***

                            Squillacci is like Silvestre...only slower.
                            "The academic support at Ohio State, there is no way you can fail. Even if you're giving minimal effort there is no way you can fail."

                            Adolphus Washington-Ohio State Freshman

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                            • Krebstar
                              is looking at stats.
                              • May 2005
                              • 12904

                              #2549
                              Re: ***The Official Arsenal "Gunners" Thread***

                              Originally posted by ZM Punk
                              Squillacci is like Silvestre...only slower.
                              I had forgotten about that guy until now. So true, though. So true. Could you imagine if we put Squillaci at left back? I would kill myself.
                              Last edited by Krebstar; 02-10-2011, 12:36 PM.

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                              • Perceptor
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 4364

                                #2550
                                Re: ***The Official Arsenal "Gunners" Thread***

                                Could you imagine Squillaci and Silvestre being paired with Pascal Cygan? Ouch

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