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  • Brahvocado
    MVP
    • Oct 2012
    • 7480

    #1426
    Re: The 2015-2016 EPL Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by Perceptor
    It was a question based on form, but I agree that you wouldn't want to break up that chemistry Leicester have right now.

    I think if Sturridge and Coutinho could in fact stay healthy, they'd help a lot of teams. Just a shame.
    Said this multiple times; only Aguero is better than Sturridge in the PL. If he could stay fit people would be talking about him being one of the best on the world.

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    • CR7
      MVP
      • Apr 2006
      • 45

      #1427
      Re: The 2015-2016 EPL Discussion Thread

      Oh Perceptor, you're such a troll lol.

      I agree on Sturridge - he's a proven goal scorer when fit and he'd be right up there with Aguero if he stayed fit. I do think it's a toss up between Mignolet and Kasper on who I'd take as both have their strengths and weaknesses.

      I think though moving forward, teams like Leicester and maybe Everton will be spending the money to further build their teams. Look out for Spurs too. They have a great manager and a new stadium opening up in a couple of years. Being in London doesn't hurt them either as well as the increase in TV money. City, Chelsea, Arsenal, and United will always spend (well ok maybe not Wenger), but they only have so much space and playing time to give to players. This allows other teams to get some great talent in.

      Look at Dele Alli. Would he have developed as well as he has without the playing time he's received? Same with Kane. If you're a young player, you want ton be playing at the highest level with the best teams....but those best teams may not give you the playing time you've been accustomed to. This is how the other teams who don't have as much wealth or draw factor can lure good players.

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      • KG
        Welcome Back
        • Sep 2005
        • 17583

        #1428
        Re: The 2015-2016 EPL Discussion Thread

        I think it's more about keeping your players as opposed to going out and spending. Clubs like Liecester and even Everton have done a great job at identifying players who fit their system/styles and when they perform, their value increases which attracts the bigger clubs who don't have the same philosophies.

        Stones (3mil)
        Mirallas (6mil)
        Deleflou (4mil)
        Barkley (free)
        Lukaku (28mil)
        Besic (4mil)

        That's ~45 mil spent on those guys with a potential profit of ~100 mil if they were to sell. Resisting the temptation to sell is what will make this league even tougher as the new TV money comes in and the likes of Stoke and Watford spend cash.
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        • fearwhatnow
          MVP
          • Aug 2006
          • 1474

          #1429
          Re: The 2015-2016 EPL Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by Brahvocado
          Sturridge/Firmino over Okazaki surely?

          Also, Kasper is comfortably the most overrated member of your team. He is a decent lower-midtable keeper who gets more credit than he deserves almost exclusively because of who his dad is. He is your weakest link for sure. He's your Mignolet/Sczezny; solid keeper but will hold the team back eventually.
          I don't like Firmino. He's too soft. That's me though.
          Kasper is good. He's consistent and he has the ability to pinpoint long passes. His weakness is defending set pieces. He's not overrated neither underrated. He's just a good EPL GK.

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          • fearwhatnow
            MVP
            • Aug 2006
            • 1474

            #1430
            Re: The 2015-2016 EPL Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by KG
            I think it's more about keeping your players as opposed to going out and spending. Clubs like Liecester and even Everton have done a great job at identifying players who fit their system/styles and when they perform, their value increases which attracts the bigger clubs who don't have the same philosophies.

            Stones (3mil)
            Mirallas (6mil)
            Deleflou (4mil)
            Barkley (free)
            Lukaku (28mil)
            Besic (4mil)

            That's ~45 mil spent on those guys with a potential profit of ~100 mil if they were to sell. Resisting the temptation to sell is what will make this league even tougher as the new TV money comes in and the likes of Stoke and Watford spend cash.
            On the other side you have Liverpool throwing 9mil for Mignolet (2013) and extending his contract with another huge amount of money until 2021...

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            • PabloLFC
              Banned
              • Dec 2015
              • 638

              #1431
              Re: The 2015-2016 EPL Discussion Thread

              You mustn't have seen Mignolet for Sunderland.

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              • fearwhatnow
                MVP
                • Aug 2006
                • 1474

                #1432
                Re: The 2015-2016 EPL Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by PabloLFC
                You mustn't have seen Mignolet for Sunderland.
                Yes and he was good indeed. The contract extension this January was rather strange.

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                • KG
                  Welcome Back
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 17583

                  #1433
                  Re: The 2015-2016 EPL Discussion Thread

                  I've been surprised at how good Firmino actually is, especially in that false 9. I didn't get the Bundesliga back on tv until this year so I missed out on his time there but his progression from his first minutes at Liverpool until now is like night and day.


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                  • Brahvocado
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 7480

                    #1434
                    Re: The 2015-2016 EPL Discussion Thread

                    Keepers like Kasper/Mignolet/Mannone will always shine at clubs that concede lots of shots, because they are excellent shot stoppers. They are much more limited than their top tier counterparts in pretty much all other categories however.

                    Migs shone at Sunderland because they are awful, and all he ever needed to do was sit there and wait for shots to come.

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                    • ImTellinTim
                      YNWA
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 33028

                      #1435
                      Re: The 2015-2016 EPL Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by KG
                      I've been surprised at how good Firmino actually is, especially in that false 9. I didn't get the Bundesliga back on tv until this year so I missed out on his time there but his progression from his first minutes at Liverpool until now is like night and day.


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                      There was a period last season where he was the best player in that league. I sure wish him, Sturridge, and Coutinho could actually get games together. Looks like it might be about to happen. Knowing this season, it'll last 1.5 matches.

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                      • ImTellinTim
                        YNWA
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 33028

                        #1436
                        Re: The 2015-2016 EPL Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by ImTellinTim
                        But really

                        1)Chelsea
                        2)Arsenal
                        3)Man City
                        4)Liverpool
                        5)Man Utd
                        6)Spurs

                        18)Newcastle - Have you seen their preseason results? Yikes.
                        19)Leicester
                        20)Bournemouth
                        Just gonna get the laughs out of the way now for this.

                        Come on Newcastle, I need to be right about something.

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                        • Brahvocado
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 7480

                          #1437
                          Re: The 2015-2016 EPL Discussion Thread

                          If there's one thing you can always count on Newcastle for, it's letting you down.

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                          • KG
                            Welcome Back
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 17583

                            #1438
                            Re: The 2015-2016 EPL Discussion Thread

                            Not looking good for Adam Johnson
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                            • Krebstar
                              is looking at stats.
                              • May 2005
                              • 12904

                              #1439
                              Re: The 2015-2016 EPL Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by ImTellinTim
                              Just gonna get the laughs out of the way now for this.

                              Come on Newcastle, I need to be right about something.
                              There's at least a chance you get Arsenal and City right at 2nd and 3rd. As for Leicester...yeah.

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                              • redsox4evur
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jul 2013
                                • 18169

                                #1440
                                Re: The 2015-2016 EPL Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by Krebstar
                                There's at least a chance you get Arsenal and City right at 2nd and 3rd. As for Leicester...yeah.
                                Yea I don't think anyone would've predicted Leicester to win the league.
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