FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022

[jrnlgrn]

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Unrelated to anything else going on in this thread, how did we feel about the semi-automatic offside? I thought it was pretty quick, and would like to see it implemented anywhere it can be with VAR. I know the Premier League won't do it, but it sure was better than whatever line drawing we were doing before.

If a league is going to have VAR then it should be mandatory.

It's a lot quicker and celebrations can happen like they should. Nothing is as momentum killing for the fans and I'm guessing the players as well than waiting forever for a decision. Meanwhile some muppet back in the booth is trying to determine what happened based on a video for a couple minutes.

We don't need robot refs but just implement the tech in a way that actual aids the humans.



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[ggsimmonds]

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I will be a little sad if some people become less dedicated to the dark arts of time-wasting, but knowing that it won't go away all at once I will at least enjoy it until the sport becomes fully corporate.

Out of curiosity, why?

Guess there are two questions there. Why do you enjoy it and whats the connection to the sport going corporate

(Edit: I don't mean it in an argumentative context. I'm genuinely curious)

[Suntan Superman]

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Out of curiosity, why?

Guess there are two questions there. Why do you enjoy it and whats the connection to the sport going corporate

(Edit: I don't mean it in an argumentative context. I'm genuinely curious)

I love it because I learned about the game from Arsene Wenger, who often says the game the players play on the pitch is an expression of themselves. The time-keeping in soccer is one of it's truly unique elements, and because of it one of the forms of expression people are allowed is time-wasting. Like every other part of the game, there are levels. (https://twitter.com/ESPNFC/status/1433971341032505346 This is one of my favorites. Truly is elite time-wasting, not on a yellow so the card doesn't matter, the ref will not add the correct time back on, and you're near the end which means the next attacking action that is ended will probably end the game, while conversely you have this https://youtu.be/ifwtmo-wFDE?t=192 which is horrible time-wasting, because he's already on a yellow, he's doing it in front of the centre ref, the added time hasn't been announced so your antics can just lead to more added time.) It's really just a whole other part of the game to master for you to do anything meaningful.

Part of it is also my theory that everything is better with the wrestling face/heel dynamic, and the time-wasters, along with the perpetual foulers are great heels. You want them to lose, you want them to get their **** shoved in, and it adds passion to the game. Emi Martinez is a marked man at this point, and I'm going to enjoy it when an opponent scores on him and mocks him right back.

It's relation to the corporatization of soccer is moreso that places are viewing sports as more of a thing to sell rather than an art to enjoy. The removal of one of the "schools of art" from the game just removes more of the heart and soul of the game that I think truly makes it great.

tl;dr I like the drama it adds.

[ggsimmonds]

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I love it because I learned about the game from Arsene Wenger, who often says the game the players play on the pitch is an expression of themselves. The time-keeping in soccer is one of it's truly unique elements, and because of it one of the forms of expression people are allowed is time-wasting. Like every other part of the game, there are levels. (https://twitter.com/ESPNFC/status/1433971341032505346 This is one of my favorites. Truly is elite time-wasting, not on a yellow so the card doesn't matter, the ref will not add the correct time back on, and you're near the end which means the next attacking action that is ended will probably end the game, while conversely you have this https://youtu.be/ifwtmo-wFDE?t=192 which is horrible time-wasting, because he's already on a yellow, he's doing it in front of the centre ref, the added time hasn't been announced so your antics can just lead to more added time.) It's really just a whole other part of the game to master for you to do anything meaningful.

Part of it is also my theory that everything is better with the wrestling face/heel dynamic, and the time-wasters, along with the perpetual foulers are great heels. You want them to lose, you want them to get their **** shoved in, and it adds passion to the game. Emi Martinez is a marked man at this point, and I'm going to enjoy it when an opponent scores on him and mocks him right back.

It's relation to the corporatization of soccer is moreso that places are viewing sports as more of a thing to sell rather than an art to enjoy. The removal of one of the "schools of art" from the game just removes more of the heart and soul of the game that I think truly makes it great.

tl;dr I like the drama it adds.

Thanks for the thought out reply.

I always viewed it as something of a peculiarity of the sport tbh. There are other aspects or things players do that make the game feel very "gentlemanly" like kicking the ball out when someone on the opposition is hurt, or applauding the fans, and some of the other rituals (like the pregame stuff) but then they resort to almost childish-like levels of time wasting at the end.

[Keirik]

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Putting this here just for those getting updates on how to attend the 26 WC

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[Brahvocado]

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Thanks for the thought out reply.

I always viewed it as something of a peculiarity of the sport tbh. There are other aspects or things players do that make the game feel very "gentlemanly" like kicking the ball out when someone on the opposition is hurt, or applauding the fans, and some of the other rituals (like the pregame stuff) but then they resort to almost childish-like levels of time wasting at the end.

https://youtu.be/mnUyzbt3Z64

For some reason it’s titled the dumbest yellow card ever but it’s actually one of the funniest things I’ve seen.

[bhurst99]

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https://youtu.be/mnUyzbt3Z64

For some reason it’s titled the dumbest yellow card ever but it’s actually one of the funniest things I’ve seen.

It's dumb because there's only 10 seconds left in the allotted four minutes of extra time when Drogba does it. So the ref was probably going to blow the whistle as soon as the keeper kicked it.

But yeah it is pretty funny.

[Brahvocado]

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It's dumb because there's only 10 seconds left in the allotted four minutes of extra time when Drogba does it. So the ref was probably going to blow the whistle as soon as the keeper kicked it.

But yeah it is pretty funny.

Chelsea had been wasting a ton of time that game so it would have been reasonable to think the ref might let play go on longer tbs