As a community we can not support Madden 16 without Overhauled Penalties.

[Shady Mike]

If we are all truly dedicated to sports gaming we need to take a stand here...if Madden 16 does not have a complete 100% OVERHAULED penalty system. We have to boycott. I'm sorry, but we have to. It's just been too long, we're on next gen now and I can't get a pass interference call are you serious?

This is a pivotal part of American football that is deciding the outcomes of games EVERY Sunday. Penalties and Roster editing IN Franchise mode needs to be top priority with M16...we need more, we deserve more, and we need to demand more.

Thoughts?

[mlbtheshowfan7]

Re: As a community we can not support Madden 16 without Overhauled Penalties.

Yep, way too few penalties compared to an actual NFL game even when you crank up the sliders

[Big FN Deal]

Re: As a community we can not support Madden 16 without Overhauled Penalties.

While I agree with this in principle, I think any addition to Madden is destined to "fail" without a complete overhaul of the entire foundation of Madden. Considering how every other "overhaul" to any other area of this game has turned out, I don't see why the penalty system would be any different.

Off the top of my head, I can't think of one overhaul in a decade, aside from graphics if you want to count that, that they've implemented in Madden, which turned out to function in a way that emulates real football.

[NFCastle]

Re: As a community we can not support Madden 16 without Overhauled Penalties.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news...but every year, these threads pop up. The OS community is an ant compared to the millions who purchase the game every year regardless.


That's why we'll never see the changes that would make the game worth buying year after year.

[cusefan74]

Re: As a community we can not support Madden 16 without Overhauled Penalties.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news...but every year, these threads pop up. The OS community is an ant compared to the millions who purchase the game every year regardless.


That's why we'll never see the changes that would make the game worth buying year after year.

This exactly! There is not enough people here to make a difference. There is also a bunch of people that want cpu vs cpu put back into it, but again not enough people to make a difference.

[Herky]

Re: As a community we can not support Madden 16 without Overhauled Penalties.

EA hasn't listened to the community for years. Not trying to pile on but it's true. I've been on this website for a long time and the "Wish Lists" that are posted on OS haven't really changed all that much over time.

They used to have some people from EA post here, but even then they never came through on what the community wanted.

[roadman]

Re: As a community we can not support Madden 16 without Overhauled Penalties.

EA hasn't listened to the community for years. Not trying to pile on but it's true. I've been on this website for a long time and the "Wish Lists" that are posted on OS haven't really changed all that much over time.

They used to have some people from EA post here, but even then they never came through on what the community wanted.

I agree with the first part, but not the last.

Ian had a wish list compiled after Madden 10 came out and 90% of the wishes in Madden 10 came from OS.

Since then, nothing has come close.

It's really here nor there, though, I've been on here for 12 years and if I had a nickel for every time I heard the word boycott............

Same word, different year.

[NDAlum]

Re: As a community we can not support Madden 16 without Overhauled Penalties.

Sad to say but yep, we have no voice.

It's clear by what product they put out. The lack of penalties clearly caters to a demographic that is not Operation Sports.

[Big FN Deal]

Re: As a community we can not support Madden 16 without Overhauled Penalties.

I'm surprised to see all the posts claiming that the Madden devs don't try to implement the things the OS community suggests, I disagree. I could go down a list of stuff that aligns, at least in principle, with what has been asked for around here and all over by those wanting realism. Where the issue comes in, imo, is when those things are actually implemented or at least tried, they don't function as those of us advocating for them would have hoped. Admittedly, sometimes they seem intentionally water downed or limited to cater to casuals but other times it seems like those things just can't function well with the legacy foundation.

Point being, I don't think if Madden devs tried to implement everything specifically advocated for on OS, it would work out how we all envision because the game as a whole is just too far gone.

[Kaiser Wilhelm]

Re: As a community we can not support Madden 16 without Overhauled Penalties.

This is very low on my gripes with Madden and what we should take a stand over.

There is so much wrong with this game, not from it being a sim of the NFL, but just really bad AI and wonky physics. It isn't a good game. Even simple things like the playart and the play matching up are wrong.

[WingedLion14]

Re: As a community we can not support Madden 16 without Overhauled Penalties.

I'm going to have to disagree, at least in part. Should the actions of the player that would normally be penalties be called? Absolutely. Should there be seven or eight pass interference or false start calls that happen just to meet a "quota." No.


Picture this - down 21-17, :45 left on the clock, 4th and 1, doesn't matter where on the field. The clock is stopped from an incomplete pass, you line up to run the ball and then...false start by your right guard, whom you literally cannot control whatsoever. Now it's 4th and 6, you have to pass, and fail to convert. Game over, you lost because of a random factor.


Realistic? Yes. Fun gameplay? I don't think so, because there is literally nothing you can do to prevent it.


If there's one thing they need to do, however, is make penalties that happen called properly. I had Larry Donnell called once on pass interference when there was literally nobody covering him - he was open by literally five yards. A ridiculous call, and after seeing two similar ones I've started calling real-life pass interference calls that are BS "video game penalties." Yes, pass interference should be called, but it should be based on what the players do - and preferably should be relatively unlikely to happen if the player is not involved with it.

[mlb61]

Re: As a community we can not support Madden 16 without Overhauled Penalties.

I'm going to have to disagree, at least in part. Should the actions of the player that would normally be penalties be called? Absolutely. Should there be seven or eight pass interference or false start calls that happen just to meet a "quota." No.


Picture this - down 21-17, :45 left on the clock, 4th and 1, doesn't matter where on the field. The clock is stopped from an incomplete pass, you line up to run the ball and then...false start by your right guard, whom you literally cannot control whatsoever. Now it's 4th and 6, you have to pass, and fail to convert. Game over, you lost because of a random factor.


Realistic? Yes. Fun gameplay? I don't think so, because there is literally nothing you can do to prevent it.


If there's one thing they need to do, however, is make penalties that happen called properly. I had Larry Donnell called once on pass interference when there was literally nobody covering him - he was open by literally five yards. A ridiculous call, and after seeing two similar ones I've started calling real-life pass interference calls that are BS "video game penalties." Yes, pass interference should be called, but it should be based on what the players do - and preferably should be relatively unlikely to happen if the player is not involved with it.

First and only post in this thread to make sense!

[roadman]

Re: As a community we can not support Madden 16 without Overhauled Penalties.

That has been talked about several times in the past too, it's just that people are tired of talking about it and not seeing anything reflect in the game.

The player that has more false starts, should have a tendency to have one called in the game.

Based on that, penalties can be drive killers, which is realistic,(even late in the game penalties can take you out of fg range) just like a more realistic challenge system.

[Shady Mike]

Re: As a community we can not support Madden 16 without Overhauled Penalties.

That has been talked about several times in the past too, it's just that people are tired of talking about it and not seeing anything reflect in the game.

The player that has more false starts, should have a tendency to have one called in the game.

Based on that, penalties can be drive killers, which is realistic,(even late in the game penalties can take you out of fg range) just like a more realistic challenge system.

Basically a lower Offensive or Defensive awareness attribute (rookies and young guys) could get more penalties called on them...

[roadman]

Re: As a community we can not support Madden 16 without Overhauled Penalties.

Basically a lower Offensive or Defensive awareness attribute (rookies and young guys) could get more penalties called on them...

Or veterans with a higher % of holding penalties in the NFL could be tied into the game too