Slider Thought?

[Steeler99]

Looking through most of the slider threads I can see most everyone is still searching for that "golden set". Just to get a slightly new idea out there, I wonder if it would make a difference if instead of lowering specific sliders to make corrections, we only increased the opposite sliders?

For example, right now if we find the human pass game too strong, most slider sets show that we tend to lower the human pass sliders. What if we took the opposite approach and to fix a strong human pass game we raised the cpu pass defense settings?

In other words start out with everything at default all-pro (middle of the road), then for any necessary corrections raise the opposing slider, versus lowering that specific slider. I'm just curious if the game would play better with sliders tweaked towards the high end versus the low end that we see in most slider sets now?

I remember seeing a post a while back mentioning how much better the blocking and animations were down at the pro level. Just got me to thinking that maybe an approach that put sliders closer to that level might provide better overall play?

[KBLover]

It seems to be working for me with QB accuracy. If I need to lower my completion %, I'll increase CPU Pass reaction. Fortunately, that's low (to minimize psychic coverage) so there's lots of room for me there.

I don't know if it will work for INTs. There's no "opposite" to INTs? Maybe WR catching?

I also wonder for the run game. Even with 50-55 run blocking, with 50 Block shedding, the AI can't run well (my players break their blocks too fast) and it can get like that for me as well, especially if I run between the tackles frequently.

I'm trying to keep my sliders around 10-12 "overall". I just hope increasing the CPU sliders (or my sliders if the CPU is too good at something) won't create too much suction/warping/etc to where it starts looking funny(ier).

[cpdfrank]

I think you have good possibility here, which i am going to try out shortly. Will report after im done.

[dolfanfrank]

Steeler99 what would you do to effect cpu pass rush using your new theory?

Its worth a try, I like the idea

[bill2451]

steeler, my guess is that if you do it this way you will just be attempting to make one aspect of the game unrealistic to counteract another

the reason people put QB acc and WR catching lower than default is because you will not see errant passes or very many drops at 50... if you're too good at 50's, but leave it there and increase the CPU defense you still have those same issues, you're just making the cpu more unrealistic (aka psychic db's) to counteract it

that's my guess anyway

[bigman24]

Quote: Originally Posted by dolfanfrank

Steeler99 what would you do to effect cpu pass rush using your new theory? Its worth a try, I like the idea

To affect CPU Pass rush on the negative side increase Human PB and decrease BLK Shed for HUM.

[Steeler99]

Quote: Originally Posted by dolfanfrank

Steeler99 what would you do to effect cpu pass rush using your new theory? Its worth a try, I like the idea

Human pass block would seem to be the logical choice?

[Steeler99]

Quote: Originally Posted by bill2451

steeler, my guess is that if you do it this way you will just be attempting to make one aspect of the game unrealistic to counteract another the reason people put QB acc and WR catching lower than default is because you will not see errant passes or very many drops at 50... if you're too good at 50's, but leave it there and increase the CPU defense you still have those same issues, you're just making the cpu more unrealistic (aka psychic db's) to counteract it that's my guess anyway

You could very well be right Bill ... just thought it might be worth a try? I've actually got three different "test franchises" going with the hope that at least one will give me the challenge I'm looking for. Surprising thing was, in a brief series of testing last night I actually saw quite a few errant passes from the cpu trying the "increase only method" ....

I was just thinking that for example with both human AND cpu set to pro difficulty, they would essentially offset each other and play balanced? Years back (old gen) I remember quite a few of the OS found PRO to be the most realistic level to play on, albeit with cpu and human sliders greatly tweaked. Of course now sliders are set up differently so may not work at all?