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Old 12-14-2012, 08:13 PM   #3329
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Re: Jarodd21s Madden 13 All-Madden sliders

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You may just be right about that. I'm going to keep playing with the Blue/Black set for half the season simply because with Shepard out for the time being, I don't have a QB that can quite hit the throws I'm used to hitting.

This game was competitive until Shepard went down. I felt like the game almost rolled over and died as if it was saying, "whoops, sorry about that one buddy."

I am going to keep the pass D settings where they're at for the moment. Andrew Luck still is only ~85 OVR in my league and I feel that for the amount of times Luck forced passes into double coverage, 3 INT's is the right amount (and about par for the course for what he's doing in the NFL). Heck, one of Patrick Peterson's picks came in a series where Luck threw Peterson's way three times in a row. First pass should have been picked, second pass was caught out of bounds, third pass went right into Patrick's hands. If the CPU is going to do something dumb like throw three passes at the same DB every time, well, I don't mind when I take the ball away.

Also, I'm keeping it there because I'm still fumbling a lot. Mustafa Spain fumbled the ball (lost), Trent Richardson fumbled (lost, making that 4 fumbles lost in 5 games with CAR at 98 and Cover vs. ALL), Taiwan Jones fumbled (recovered) and Peterson fumbled (lost) on a punt. I still lost the turnover battle, so as long as the turnover battle remains within reason, I'll keep the sliders as they are. I have fumbles set to 30/30 for both USER/CPU. If you can recommend me something that causes fewer fumbles, I'd be more than obliged to change my pass defense settings. It also may be a byproduct of the fact that both my starting CB's have MCV at 99, CAT at 80 and SPD above 95. The CPU tends not even to throw the ball Joe Haden's way at all, and the secondary receivers are either Peterson's man or the TE. If I get lazy on my coverage, the TE still burns me (which is the weakness of a Cover-2 scheme), but given I've built my defense with two immensely talented CB's, I feel it's pretty realistic if I keep most QB's below or around 50% completions and 250 yards. I still have yet to play a really talented pocket passer this season, so I'm going to gauge it when I play a Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisburger or Drew Brees type.

I think this game is going to be much more an outlier than the norm because like I said, I was really disappointed to see Shepard go down, so I focused in on my playcalling and made sure not to make any more mistakes (which I still did). Also, I managed to return two kickoffs for TD's. That's enough to swing just about any game dramatically in one team's favor. I'm chalking this one of up some behind the scenes things going on, still not convinced I'm good enough to use the full black set.


As far as clock speed and such, I'm using 10 minute quarters with the gameplay at fast or very fast (not sure I'll have to check) and 15 second clock runoff. I'm seeing around 120-130 plays per game total which is maybe a little on the high side but I think is generally about average.
Yeah you definitely need to consider moving the CPUs passing to the black set if you are going to stick with the 55-20-0 USER pass defense. I know Luck has thrown alot of INTs in real life but he hasn't had a game where his completition percentage was that bad and he kept making some of the horrible decisions you said he was making.. Scores like that is unacceptable and you have to make changes when you get games like that. I can tell by the way your games are coming out that you are definitely ready to play on my black set with maybe a few areas being inbetween my black and blue set that you feel you need to work on..


Yeah I guess 10 minutes with the 15 second runoff isn't too bad. You should consider lowering the accelerated clock down somewhere close to where I have it. It's much more of a challenge having to make quicker decisions at the line of scrimmage before the snap. 15 seconds gives you way too much time..
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:19 PM   #3330
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Jarodd quick question: What is your thought on threshold at 0? I had it at 20 at first and it seemed to work alright but then moved it to 0 and now I'm getting beat non-stop on deep balls....like my CBs are in mud. If I move it all the way out to 100 what should that do?
I definitely feel 0 threshold is where it should be. You just have to pay attention to the WRs on the outside. You can't be leaving a slower DB out there one on one with a super fast WR.. You definitely can't be pressing the WRs either if you don't have help over the top.. 100 threshold IMO is trash.. All it does is help slower players keep up with faster players meaning you'll be seeing your faster RBs getting tracked down alot by slower players and you'll super slow CBs out there sticking with big time faster WRs one on one. It just takes away having to scheme against that kind of stuff. With the threshold on 0 slower players can still make an impact in short distances if they have good acceleration but faster players should not get walked down by slower players once they are in full stride. I have Webster who is slow and he isn't always getting beat deep.. You just have to pay attention to all the matchups on the field..
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:22 PM   #3331
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jarrod, i am in an online league that has 32 users. this is my first full season...since i play with the black set offline, it really is alot easier to play against the users sometimes....this is suppose to be a sim style laegue but i see plays that the quarterback drops back alot and of course the corners cannot keep playing a tight defevse forever..so i feel this is unfair...i choose to continue the league and see how it goes....another problem is thast the game loses its connection at any given point...example yeaterday, i had first possession and drove the ball 80 yards with 2 seconds left in the 1st quarter...i was very excited and then i kicked off to the dolphins and lost the connection...we started a second game ..once again dolphins kicjkked off to me (seahawks), and i downed the ball in end zone...first play from the 20 i ran a halfback blast to the weakside and i saw a hole and connection pauses, it comes back 15 seconds later and i go thru the hole, after 5 yards after i hit the hole i knew i had an 80 td run ( for sure) connection dies out....so twice i prove myself to the dolphins who happen to have a good user and then we had to start a 3rd game...at this point i am exhausted from having played for hours on my offline league...now he tears me apart 27-6 he knows how i play ....anyways i enjoy offline more and the picture is alot clearer...and you dont lose connection thanks for your black set i still have to send you my tweaked black set so u can analyze them
Yeah that's the thing that sucks about playing online when you lose connection like that but definitely post the exact set you are using with all the tweaks so I can analyze it and make sure you didn't mess up somewhere with the USER sliders which will cause some bad play from the CPU..
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Old 12-14-2012, 10:37 PM   #3332
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Yeah you definitely need to consider moving the CPUs passing to the black set if you are going to stick with the 55-20-0 USER pass defense. I know Luck has thrown alot of INTs in real life but he hasn't had a game where his completition percentage was that bad and he kept making some of the horrible decisions you said he was making.. Scores like that is unacceptable and you have to make changes when you get games like that. I can tell by the way your games are coming out that you are definitely ready to play on my black set with maybe a few areas being inbetween my black and blue set that you feel you need to work on..


Yeah I guess 10 minutes with the 15 second runoff isn't too bad. You should consider lowering the accelerated clock down somewhere close to where I have it. It's much more of a challenge having to make quicker decisions at the line of scrimmage before the snap. 15 seconds gives you way too much time..
I upped the CPU Pass sliders to the black set. Here's my latest game. I was down the entire game until the 4th quarter. Staged a late game comeback for the win.

Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings
Sep 21, 20141ST2ND3RD4THSCORE
Chicago Bears (4-1)31071030
Minnesota Vikings (1-4)3103319
Team Stats Comparison
CHIMIN
Total Offense419366
Rushing Yards191150
Passing Yards228216
First Downs1714
Punt Return Yards210
Kick Return Yards144106
Total Yards584406
Turnovers2(0)2(0)
3rd Down Converstion2-11(18%)8-18(44%)
4th Down Conversion2-2(100%)1-3(33%)
2-Point Conversion0-00-0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals2/11/2
Penalties1-54-35
Posession Time14:2525:35
Chicago Bears
PASSINGC/AYDSTDINT
Colin Kaeperknick12/2823822
RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTD
Trent Richardson211346.31
Taiwan Jones8536.60
Colin Kaperknick144.00
RECEIVINGRECYDSAVGTD
AJ Green34515.01
Jermaine Gresham34414.60
Mustafa Spain37826.01
Dez Bryant24120.50
Trent Richardson13030.00
DEFENSETACKSACKINTTD
Kam Chancellor9000
Keon Rose9000
Jon Beason8000
Bruce Irvin6300
Patrick Peterson5010
Andrew Waters4000
Devin McCourty4010
Justin Durant3000
Brandon Mebane3200
Marcell Dareus2100
Joe Haden1000
KICKINGFGXPPTSLONG
Matt Praeter3/33/31253
PUNTINGNOYDSAVGIN20
Pat McAfee315752.32
KICK RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
Patrick Peterson37324.30
Dez Bryant12424.00
Marcus Richardson24723.50
PUNT RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
Patrick Peterson3217.00
Minnesota Vikings
PASSINGC/AYDSTDINT
Andy Dalton19/2925512
RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTD
Jamaal Charles321414.40
Pierre Thomas294.50
RECEIVINGRECYDSAVGTD
Jamaal Charles492.20
Jerome Simpson49624.00
Visanthe Shiancoe4358.71
Titus Young Sr.23618.00
Henry Hynoski11313.00
(4 other receivers w/ 1 rec)
DEFENSETACKSACKINTTD
Justin Bethel7000
Lance Briggs6010
George Wilson5010
Ndamukong Suh5000
Chad Greenway4000
Dan Mercado4000
Austin Norton3100
Kavell Conner3010
Karl Klug2100
Ray Edwards2000
Justin Smith2100
KICKINGFGXPPTSLONG
David Akers4/41/11354
PUNTINGNOYDSAVGIN20
Jon Ryan314147.00
KICK RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
Titus Young Sr.510521.00
Visanthe Shiancoe111.00



I get what you're saying about the pass completion %. He hasn't been that bad ever and shouldn't be. This looks a lot better.
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Old 12-14-2012, 10:44 PM   #3333
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I upped the CPU Pass sliders to the black set. Here's my latest game. I was down the entire game until the 4th quarter. Staged a late game comeback for the win.

Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings
Sep 21, 20141ST2ND3RD4THSCORE
Chicago Bears (4-1)31071030
Minnesota Vikings (1-4)3103319
Team Stats Comparison
CHIMIN
Total Offense419366
Rushing Yards191150
Passing Yards228216
First Downs1714
Punt Return Yards210
Kick Return Yards144106
Total Yards584406
Turnovers2(0)2(0)
3rd Down Converstion2-11(18%)8-18(44%)
4th Down Conversion2-2(100%)1-3(33%)
2-Point Conversion0-00-0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals2/11/2
Penalties1-54-35
Posession Time14:2525:35
Chicago Bears
PASSINGC/AYDSTDINT
Colin Kaeperknick12/2823822
RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTD
Trent Richardson211346.31
Taiwan Jones8536.60
Colin Kaperknick144.00
RECEIVINGRECYDSAVGTD
AJ Green34515.01
Jermaine Gresham34414.60
Mustafa Spain37826.01
Dez Bryant24120.50
Trent Richardson13030.00
DEFENSETACKSACKINTTD
Kam Chancellor9000
Keon Rose9000
Jon Beason8000
Bruce Irvin6300
Patrick Peterson5010
Andrew Waters4000
Devin McCourty4010
Justin Durant3000
Brandon Mebane3200
Marcell Dareus2100
Joe Haden1000
KICKINGFGXPPTSLONG
Matt Praeter3/33/31253
PUNTINGNOYDSAVGIN20
Pat McAfee315752.32
KICK RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
Patrick Peterson37324.30
Dez Bryant12424.00
Marcus Richardson24723.50
PUNT RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
Patrick Peterson3217.00
Minnesota Vikings
PASSINGC/AYDSTDINT
Andy Dalton19/2925512
RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTD
Jamaal Charles321414.40
Pierre Thomas294.50
RECEIVINGRECYDSAVGTD
Jamaal Charles492.20
Jerome Simpson49624.00
Visanthe Shiancoe4358.71
Titus Young Sr.23618.00
Henry Hynoski11313.00
(4 other receivers w/ 1 rec)
DEFENSETACKSACKINTTD
Justin Bethel7000
Lance Briggs6010
George Wilson5010
Ndamukong Suh5000
Chad Greenway4000
Dan Mercado4000
Austin Norton3100
Kavell Conner3010
Karl Klug2100
Ray Edwards2000
Justin Smith2100
KICKINGFGXPPTSLONG
David Akers4/41/11354
PUNTINGNOYDSAVGIN20
Jon Ryan314147.00
KICK RETURNRETYDSAVGTD
Titus Young Sr.510521.00
Visanthe Shiancoe111.00



I get what you're saying about the pass completion %. He hasn't been that bad ever and shouldn't be. This looks a lot better.
Yeah that looks much better.. Post your set for me so I can see exactly what you are working with..
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:21 PM   #3334
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Also, I'm keeping it there because I'm still fumbling a lot. Mustafa Spain fumbled the ball (lost), Trent Richardson fumbled (lost, making that 4 fumbles lost in 5 games with CAR at 98 and Cover vs. ALL), Taiwan Jones fumbled (recovered) and Peterson fumbled (lost) on a punt. I still lost the turnover battle, so as long as the turnover battle remains within reason, I'll keep the sliders as they are. I have fumbles set to 30/30 for both USER/CPU. If you can recommend me something that causes fewer fumbles, I'd be more than obliged to change my pass defense settings..
I forgot to respond to this post earliar. Lowering the fumble slider causes more fumbles. You have to raise the fumble slider to tone down the fumbling so you need to put both the CPU and the USER fumbles back to 35..
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Pass reaction 60-15(slider is reversed/backwards this is really 85) im confused with this slider can you explain is cpu supposed to be 85 and i'm supposed to be 15?
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Pass reaction 60-15(slider is reversed/backwards this is really 85) im confused with this slider can you explain is cpu supposed to be 85 and i'm supposed to be 15?
No I was saying that the pass reaction slider is backwards meaning I have the CPUs pass reaction at 15(blue set) but its really 85 because that slider is reversed. The USER pass reaction is at 60 but its really 40.
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