Jarodd21s Madden 13 All-Madden sliders

[Jarodd21]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dempseylicious23

You may just be right about that. I'm going to keep playing with the Blue/Black set for half the season simply because with Shepard out for the time being, I don't have a QB that can quite hit the throws I'm used to hitting. This game was competitive until Shepard went down. I felt like the game almost rolled over and died as if it was saying, "whoops, sorry about that one buddy." I am going to keep the pass D settings where they're at for the moment. Andrew Luck still is only ~85 OVR in my league and I feel that for the amount of times Luck forced passes into double coverage, 3 INT's is the right amount (and about par for the course for what he's doing in the NFL). Heck, one of Patrick Peterson's picks came in a series where Luck threw Peterson's way three times in a row. First pass should have been picked, second pass was caught out of bounds, third pass went right into Patrick's hands. If the CPU is going to do something dumb like throw three passes at the same DB every time, well, I don't mind when I take the ball away. Also, I'm keeping it there because I'm still fumbling a lot. Mustafa Spain fumbled the ball (lost), Trent Richardson fumbled (lost, making that 4 fumbles lost in 5 games with CAR at 98 and Cover vs. ALL), Taiwan Jones fumbled (recovered) and Peterson fumbled (lost) on a punt. I still lost the turnover battle, so as long as the turnover battle remains within reason, I'll keep the sliders as they are. I have fumbles set to 30/30 for both USER/CPU. If you can recommend me something that causes fewer fumbles, I'd be more than obliged to change my pass defense settings. It also may be a byproduct of the fact that both my starting CB's have MCV at 99, CAT at 80 and SPD above 95. The CPU tends not even to throw the ball Joe Haden's way at all, and the secondary receivers are either Peterson's man or the TE. If I get lazy on my coverage, the TE still burns me (which is the weakness of a Cover-2 scheme), but given I've built my defense with two immensely talented CB's, I feel it's pretty realistic if I keep most QB's below or around 50% completions and 250 yards. I still have yet to play a really talented pocket passer this season, so I'm going to gauge it when I play a Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisburger or Drew Brees type. I think this game is going to be much more an outlier than the norm because like I said, I was really disappointed to see Shepard go down, so I focused in on my playcalling and made sure not to make any more mistakes (which I still did). Also, I managed to return two kickoffs for TD's. That's enough to swing just about any game dramatically in one team's favor. I'm chalking this one of up some behind the scenes things going on, still not convinced I'm good enough to use the full black set. As far as clock speed and such, I'm using 10 minute quarters with the gameplay at fast or very fast (not sure I'll have to check) and 15 second clock runoff. I'm seeing around 120-130 plays per game total which is maybe a little on the high side but I think is generally about average.

Yeah you definitely need to consider moving the CPUs passing to the black set if you are going to stick with the 55-20-0 USER pass defense. I know Luck has thrown alot of INTs in real life but he hasn't had a game where his completition percentage was that bad and he kept making some of the horrible decisions you said he was making.. Scores like that is unacceptable and you have to make changes when you get games like that. I can tell by the way your games are coming out that you are definitely ready to play on my black set with maybe a few areas being inbetween my black and blue set that you feel you need to work on..


Yeah I guess 10 minutes with the 15 second runoff isn't too bad. You should consider lowering the accelerated clock down somewhere close to where I have it. It's much more of a challenge having to make quicker decisions at the line of scrimmage before the snap. 15 seconds gives you way too much time..

[Jarodd21]

Quote: Originally Posted by ckunda4

Jarodd quick question: What is your thought on threshold at 0? I had it at 20 at first and it seemed to work alright but then moved it to 0 and now I'm getting beat non-stop on deep balls....like my CBs are in mud. If I move it all the way out to 100 what should that do?

I definitely feel 0 threshold is where it should be. You just have to pay attention to the WRs on the outside. You can't be leaving a slower DB out there one on one with a super fast WR.. You definitely can't be pressing the WRs either if you don't have help over the top.. 100 threshold IMO is trash.. All it does is help slower players keep up with faster players meaning you'll be seeing your faster RBs getting tracked down alot by slower players and you'll super slow CBs out there sticking with big time faster WRs one on one. It just takes away having to scheme against that kind of stuff. With the threshold on 0 slower players can still make an impact in short distances if they have good acceleration but faster players should not get walked down by slower players once they are in full stride. I have Webster who is slow and he isn't always getting beat deep.. You just have to pay attention to all the matchups on the field..

[Jarodd21]

Quote: Originally Posted by cajolingknave

jarrod, i am in an online league that has 32 users. this is my first full season...since i play with the black set offline, it really is alot easier to play against the users sometimes....this is suppose to be a sim style laegue but i see plays that the quarterback drops back alot and of course the corners cannot keep playing a tight defevse forever..so i feel this is unfair...i choose to continue the league and see how it goes....another problem is thast the game loses its connection at any given point...example yeaterday, i had first possession and drove the ball 80 yards with 2 seconds left in the 1st quarter...i was very excited and then i kicked off to the dolphins and lost the connection...we started a second game ..once again dolphins kicjkked off to me (seahawks), and i downed the ball in end zone...first play from the 20 i ran a halfback blast to the weakside and i saw a hole and connection pauses, it comes back 15 seconds later and i go thru the hole, after 5 yards after i hit the hole i knew i had an 80 td run ( for sure) connection dies out....so twice i prove myself to the dolphins who happen to have a good user and then we had to start a 3rd game...at this point i am exhausted from having played for hours on my offline league...now he tears me apart 27-6 he knows how i play ....anyways i enjoy offline more and the picture is alot clearer...and you dont lose connection thanks for your black set i still have to send you my tweaked black set so u can analyze them

Yeah that's the thing that sucks about playing online when you lose connection like that but definitely post the exact set you are using with all the tweaks so I can analyze it and make sure you didn't mess up somewhere with the USER sliders which will cause some bad play from the CPU..

[Dempseylicious23]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jarodd21

Yeah you definitely need to consider moving the CPUs passing to the black set if you are going to stick with the 55-20-0 USER pass defense. I know Luck has thrown alot of INTs in real life but he hasn't had a game where his completition percentage was that bad and he kept making some of the horrible decisions you said he was making.. Scores like that is unacceptable and you have to make changes when you get games like that. I can tell by the way your games are coming out that you are definitely ready to play on my black set with maybe a few areas being inbetween my black and blue set that you feel you need to work on.. Yeah I guess 10 minutes with the 15 second runoff isn't too bad. You should consider lowering the accelerated clock down somewhere close to where I have it. It's much more of a challenge having to make quicker decisions at the line of scrimmage before the snap. 15 seconds gives you way too much time..

I upped the CPU Pass sliders to the black set. Here's my latest game. I was down the entire game until the 4th quarter. Staged a late game comeback for the win.

Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings
Sep 21, 2014	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Chicago Bears (4-1)	3	10	7	10	30
Minnesota Vikings (1-4)	3	10	3	3	19

Team Stats Comparison
	CHI	MIN
Total Offense	419	366
Rushing Yards	191	150
Passing Yards	228	216
First Downs	17	14
Punt Return Yards	21	0
Kick Return Yards	144	106
Total Yards	584	406
Turnovers	2(0)	2(0)
3rd Down Converstion	2-11(18%)	8-18(44%)
4th Down Conversion	2-2(100%)	1-3(33%)
2-Point Conversion	0-0	0-0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	2/1	1/2
Penalties	1-5	4-35
Posession Time	14:25	25:35

Chicago Bears PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Colin Kaeperknick 12/28 238 2 2 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Trent Richardson 21 134 6.3 1 Taiwan Jones 8 53 6.6 0 Colin Kaperknick 1 4 4.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD AJ Green 3 45 15.0 1 Jermaine Gresham 3 44 14.6 0 Mustafa Spain 3 78 26.0 1 Dez Bryant 2 41 20.5 0 Trent Richardson 1 30 30.0 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Kam Chancellor 9 0 0 0 Keon Rose 9 0 0 0 Jon Beason 8 0 0 0 Bruce Irvin 6 3 0 0 Patrick Peterson 5 0 1 0 Andrew Waters 4 0 0 0 Devin McCourty 4 0 1 0 Justin Durant 3 0 0 0 Brandon Mebane 3 2 0 0 Marcell Dareus 2 1 0 0 Joe Haden 1 0 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG Matt Praeter 3/3 3/3 12 53 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 Pat McAfee 3 157 52.3 2 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Patrick Peterson 3 73 24.3 0 Dez Bryant 1 24 24.0 0 Marcus Richardson 2 47 23.5 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Patrick Peterson 3 21 7.0 0

Minnesota Vikings PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Andy Dalton 19/29 255 1 2 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Jamaal Charles 32 141 4.4 0 Pierre Thomas 2 9 4.5 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Jamaal Charles 4 9 2.2 0 Jerome Simpson 4 96 24.0 0 Visanthe Shiancoe 4 35 8.7 1 Titus Young Sr. 2 36 18.0 0 Henry Hynoski 1 13 13.0 0 (4 other receivers w/ 1 rec) DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Justin Bethel 7 0 0 0 Lance Briggs 6 0 1 0 George Wilson 5 0 1 0 Ndamukong Suh 5 0 0 0 Chad Greenway 4 0 0 0 Dan Mercado 4 0 0 0 Austin Norton 3 1 0 0 Kavell Conner 3 0 1 0 Karl Klug 2 1 0 0 Ray Edwards 2 0 0 0 Justin Smith 2 1 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG David Akers 4/4 1/1 13 54 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 Jon Ryan 3 141 47.0 0 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Titus Young Sr. 5 105 21.0 0 Visanthe Shiancoe 1 1 1.0 0

I get what you're saying about the pass completion %. He hasn't been that bad ever and shouldn't be. This looks a lot better.

[Jarodd21]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dempseylicious23

I upped the CPU Pass sliders to the black set. Here's my latest game. I was down the entire game until the 4th quarter. Staged a late game comeback for the win. Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings Sep 21, 2014 1ST 2ND 3RD 4TH SCORE Chicago Bears (4-1) 3 10 7 10 30 Minnesota Vikings (1-4) 3 10 3 3 19 Team Stats Comparison CHI MIN Total Offense 419 366 Rushing Yards 191 150 Passing Yards 228 216 First Downs 17 14 Punt Return Yards 21 0 Kick Return Yards 144 106 Total Yards 584 406 Turnovers 2(0) 2(0) 3rd Down Converstion 2-11(18%) 8-18(44%) 4th Down Conversion 2-2(100%) 1-3(33%) 2-Point Conversion 0-0 0-0 Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals 2/1 1/2 Penalties 1-5 4-35 Posession Time 14:25 25:35 Chicago Bears PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Colin Kaeperknick 12/28 238 2 2 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Trent Richardson 21 134 6.3 1 Taiwan Jones 8 53 6.6 0 Colin Kaperknick 1 4 4.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD AJ Green 3 45 15.0 1 Jermaine Gresham 3 44 14.6 0 Mustafa Spain 3 78 26.0 1 Dez Bryant 2 41 20.5 0 Trent Richardson 1 30 30.0 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Kam Chancellor 9 0 0 0 Keon Rose 9 0 0 0 Jon Beason 8 0 0 0 Bruce Irvin 6 3 0 0 Patrick Peterson 5 0 1 0 Andrew Waters 4 0 0 0 Devin McCourty 4 0 1 0 Justin Durant 3 0 0 0 Brandon Mebane 3 2 0 0 Marcell Dareus 2 1 0 0 Joe Haden 1 0 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG Matt Praeter 3/3 3/3 12 53 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 Pat McAfee 3 157 52.3 2 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Patrick Peterson 3 73 24.3 0 Dez Bryant 1 24 24.0 0 Marcus Richardson 2 47 23.5 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Patrick Peterson 3 21 7.0 0 Minnesota Vikings PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Andy Dalton 19/29 255 1 2 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Jamaal Charles 32 141 4.4 0 Pierre Thomas 2 9 4.5 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Jamaal Charles 4 9 2.2 0 Jerome Simpson 4 96 24.0 0 Visanthe Shiancoe 4 35 8.7 1 Titus Young Sr. 2 36 18.0 0 Henry Hynoski 1 13 13.0 0 (4 other receivers w/ 1 rec) DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD Justin Bethel 7 0 0 0 Lance Briggs 6 0 1 0 George Wilson 5 0 1 0 Ndamukong Suh 5 0 0 0 Chad Greenway 4 0 0 0 Dan Mercado 4 0 0 0 Austin Norton 3 1 0 0 Kavell Conner 3 0 1 0 Karl Klug 2 1 0 0 Ray Edwards 2 0 0 0 Justin Smith 2 1 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG David Akers 4/4 1/1 13 54 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 Jon Ryan 3 141 47.0 0 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD Titus Young Sr. 5 105 21.0 0 Visanthe Shiancoe 1 1 1.0 0 I get what you're saying about the pass completion %. He hasn't been that bad ever and shouldn't be. This looks a lot better.

Yeah that looks much better.. Post your set for me so I can see exactly what you are working with..

[Jarodd21]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dempseylicious23

Also, I'm keeping it there because I'm still fumbling a lot. Mustafa Spain fumbled the ball (lost), Trent Richardson fumbled (lost, making that 4 fumbles lost in 5 games with CAR at 98 and Cover vs. ALL), Taiwan Jones fumbled (recovered) and Peterson fumbled (lost) on a punt. I still lost the turnover battle, so as long as the turnover battle remains within reason, I'll keep the sliders as they are. I have fumbles set to 30/30 for both USER/CPU. If you can recommend me something that causes fewer fumbles, I'd be more than obliged to change my pass defense settings..

I forgot to respond to this post earliar. Lowering the fumble slider causes more fumbles. You have to raise the fumble slider to tone down the fumbling so you need to put both the CPU and the USER fumbles back to 35..

[ThaChief]

Pass reaction 60-15(slider is reversed/backwards this is really 85) im confused with this slider can you explain is cpu supposed to be 85 and i'm supposed to be 15?

[Jarodd21]

Quote: Originally Posted by ThaChief

Pass reaction 60-15(slider is reversed/backwards this is really 85) im confused with this slider can you explain is cpu supposed to be 85 and i'm supposed to be 15?

No I was saying that the pass reaction slider is backwards meaning I have the CPUs pass reaction at 15(blue set) but its really 85 because that slider is reversed. The USER pass reaction is at 60 but its really 40.