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Old 11-11-2005, 08:59 PM   #121
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I said it the 1st time I saw the vids, same game with a slight improvement in graphics.
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Old 11-11-2005, 09:06 PM   #122
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lesson learned when playing vick.... throw spy on him, with some zone... NEVER EVER play straight man to man... i know this because i lost to my 9 year old cousin numerous times until i figured out how to stop his run game

speaking of this game, are there real voices? i thought i heard vicks real voice... very cool idea
The concern is not just Vick, my concern is every QB. If you cannot crash line left, right, fan ect then you only have the Default stunt and if everyone goes inside then ANY QB can just run outside for yards. I'm hoping that the line stunts were left in though, if not we are in a world of hurt defensively IMO.
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These videos were really better than the colts one but is it me or do the players seem to run like the haunch back of notre dame.

NFL FEVER style.
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The concern is not just Vick, my concern is every QB. If you cannot crash line left, right, fan ect then you only have the Default stunt and if everyone goes inside then ANY QB can just run outside for yards. I'm hoping that the line stunts were left in though, if not we are in a world of hurt defensively IMO.
Every body but my QB Kerry Collins. I guarantee if I try to run with him he'll be on the injury replay screen soon.
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Maaaannn, who is #34 for the Buffalo Bills? Is that Thurman Thomas? This bastard broke about 5 straight tackles for a 25 yard run, then dove into the endzone. Haha, good times.

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Thomas was nice...do you know who his back-up was in college?
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Thomas was nice...do you know who his back-up was in college?
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CORRECT SQUINT! I miss watching Mr. Sanders run with the pigskin...
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I'll preface this post by stating that I'm a huge Madden fan, and have owned every version since the original... even when Sega football was building up steam in the past few years, I still preferred Madden, by a large margin. HOWEVER:

Watching the new gameplay video clips from today (11/11/05) and I can see that the the gameplay (and AI) is the same old, same old, if not a huge step backward and I'm starting to get worried.

Check out new gameplay video #1 first, the long one (16.5MB):

play #1, a 5yd WR out pattern that leaves the Giant's CB completely in the dust. He backpedals to the numbers and lets the WR run his pattern a good 5-10yds away from him without reacting for an easy 6yd gain.

play #3, the play that Vick is injured (a HB screen to the right), the MLB is in man coverage and correctly strafes over to the right to follow Dunn and is in perfect position. However, the MLB just stands, 2yds away from Dunn as the pass is thrown (1:09 mark in the video)... when he could have given him a nice hit at the moment of the catch for either an incompletion or tackle for a loss. Instead, he doesn't even inch towards him and actually starts to backpedal slightly when the completion is made. As Dunn breaks toward the outside, seemingly reaching full speed instantly (another thing I'm not liking in these videos, there seems to be zero momentum, kinda NFL 2k esque), the MLB doesn't turn to run with him towards the sideline and instead just runs into the blocker to the left that shouldn't have been able to lock him up like that.

Don't even get me started on Schauwb's first pass after the Vick injury, a 50yd strike over the top to a double covered 5th string (#89 Dez White) WR into the endzone? On the small replay screen, before the PAT and end of the video, you can see the WR and CB make contact around the 30yd line when he makes his cut to the post and the animation kinda hichups a bit until it runs free. This is a 5th year WR with only 11 career TDs, he should not be able to run past the starting CB and safety so easily. The safety doesn't even start to run with the WR to help out on the obvious long pass pattern until there's no chance for him to catch up.

In another video (#2), Barber runs one to the right, but up the middle, and there wasn't a defender in sight. 30yds untouched.

The other (#3) has Vick rolling out to the right for a 22yd TD on a PA QB bootleg cheese play. Notice the Giants's safety on the play, runs along the 15yd line the entire time, not taking an angle to get to Vick.

I assuming that this was on rookie mode as it looked extremely arcadish.

What really bothers me in all of these videos is the damn camera angle too. It's too low, and too zoomed in. It's widescreen, hopefully they'll have more of a "classic" angle that will show our WR's at the line, pre-snap, which is what most of us HDTV owners are used to.

With all of that said, I'll still be buying Madden on launch day, I'm a Madden sucker. I had just had my expectations a bit higher.
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