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HotShot232 · 10-05-2007, 03:40 PM

I was thinking about this. I am a big APF fan but I am also diggin madden. Now after playing both for some months now. I wanted to bring something to everyone attention.

You often hear in real live football them talking about "Stepping up into the pocket" to make the pass. Now in madden so many blocks by your O-line man either WIFF or get burnt almost instantly from the snap. You have to make your read and throw VERY quickly.

Normal play goes like this.

Hike
Computer does drop
Make throw

How often do you see this happen OR do you do this

Hike
Computer does drop
Scan field
Step up in pocket
Make throw

I think this is one of my biggest complaints about madden before even the fumble issue. The O-line play is just so LAST-GEN. There is nothing realistic about the LINE play in madden. No pocket to speak of. Biggest let down.

gta95 · 10-05-2007, 03:45 PM

I am a 2k fan, and thats one of the things you really miss when you play EA football. I play NCAA 08 as my main sports game currently, and there really is no life on the field. I like the tackle animations, but the sidelines are lifeless, the crowd is lifeless, and the on-field play is sloppy. Other than that, its an enjoyable experience.

HotShot232 · 10-05-2007, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by gta95


	I am a 2k fan, and thats one of the things you really miss when you play EA football. I play NCAA 08 as my main sports game currently, and there really is no life on the field. I like the tackle animations, but the sidelines are lifeless, the crowd is lifeless, and the on-field play is sloppy. Other than that, its an enjoyable experience.

I am not writing this for a madden vs 2k comparsion.

I want people to discuss the madden pocket. (or lack of)

thanks
Hotshot

ac11367 · 10-05-2007, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by HotShot232


	The O-line play is just so LAST-GEN. There is nothing realistic about the LINE play in madden. No pocket to speak of. Biggest let down.

At least last gen you can shift the direction of where you want your O-line to pass block. I still haven't seen two O-linemen doubling on one D-lineman yet on Madden, which I've seen on APF.

Postman17 · 10-05-2007, 04:15 PM

I here so many ppl say there is no pocket but there is and I use it very effecticely. I step up and every thing and I have no problems. If you ever see me on Just hit me up Postman17 is the gt.

RedmanR · 10-05-2007, 05:31 PM

I'm no Madden pro nor can I agree or sympathize with you concerning the pocket presence or lack of... IMO a pocket does exist... Every play... no!!!

Whether the CPU drops back for you or not is solely the users discretion. I have yet to witness a CPU QB step up in the pocket and make a throw myself but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist, I just can't vouch for it myself. Since I handle my own snap and dropback I find it very satisfying to be able to step up in the pocket and complete a pass without being sacked

Good topic HotShot, I don't think this was ever discussed at the NCAA 08' threads either

thisiscrazy411 · 10-05-2007, 05:35 PM

I agree that the inablity to shift protection is lame, but while playing on All Madden and having the pass block slider at 80 I find that bad D-lines will give you time to use the pocket effectively and great D-lines will bring pressure as much as they should in real life.

Check out the slider section to find a set that fits your style. I have eliminated most of the gameplay problems like blocking, catching and coverage. The only thing they can't solve is the cheap AI making a comeback.

This should help make for a better feel with stepping up and making a throw-

All Pro- Pass Block 60

All Madden- Pass Block 80

Xx 74 xX · 10-05-2007, 05:37 PM

I constantly step up in the pocket, and based on what the rush is doing, I either run, or move a bit waiting for passing lanes to open up.

It' does work.

10-05-2007, 03:40 PM	#1
HotShot232 Banned OVR: 6 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Lafayette, Louisiana	Stepping up in the pocket I was thinking about this. I am a big APF fan but I am also diggin madden. Now after playing both for some months now. I wanted to bring something to everyone attention. You often hear in real live football them talking about "Stepping up into the pocket" to make the pass. Now in madden so many blocks by your O-line man either WIFF or get burnt almost instantly from the snap. You have to make your read and throw VERY quickly. Normal play goes like this. Hike Computer does drop Make throw How often do you see this happen OR do you do this Hike Computer does drop Scan field Step up in pocket Make throw I think this is one of my biggest complaints about madden before even the fumble issue. The O-line play is just so LAST-GEN. There is nothing realistic about the LINE play in madden. No pocket to speak of. Biggest let down.

10-05-2007, 03:45 PM	#2
gta95 MVP OVR: 20 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: P-H-I-L-L-Y	Re: Stepping up in the pocket I am a 2k fan, and thats one of the things you really miss when you play EA football. I play NCAA 08 as my main sports game currently, and there really is no life on the field. I like the tackle animations, but the sidelines are lifeless, the crowd is lifeless, and the on-field play is sloppy. Other than that, its an enjoyable experience. __________________ Eagles, 76ers, Phillies, Arsenal FC, Wildcats, Vols Red October On the road to Vick-tory Nas = GOAT

10-05-2007, 04:15 PM	#5
Postman17 Rookie OVR: 3 Join Date: Aug 2003	Re: Stepping up in the pocket I here so many ppl say there is no pocket but there is and I use it very effecticely. I step up and every thing and I have no problems. If you ever see me on Just hit me up Postman17 is the gt. __________________ http://card.mygamercard.net/Postman+17.png

10-05-2007, 05:31 PM	#6
RedmanR MVP OVR: 11 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida	Re: Stepping up in the pocket I'm no Madden pro nor can I agree or sympathize with you concerning the pocket presence or lack of... IMO a pocket does exist... Every play... no!!! Whether the CPU drops back for you or not is solely the users discretion. I have yet to witness a CPU QB step up in the pocket and make a throw myself but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist, I just can't vouch for it myself. Since I handle my own snap and dropback I find it very satisfying to be able to step up in the pocket and complete a pass without being sacked Good topic *HotShot,* I don't think this was ever discussed at the NCAA 08' threads either __________________ *Where they DO that? ? ?*

10-05-2007, 05:35 PM	#7
thisiscrazy411 Rookie OVR: 1 Join Date: Sep 2007	Re: Stepping up in the pocket I agree that the inablity to shift protection is lame, but while playing on All Madden and having the pass block slider at 80 I find that bad D-lines will give you time to use the pocket effectively and great D-lines will bring pressure as much as they should in real life. Check out the slider section to find a set that fits your style. I have eliminated most of the gameplay problems like blocking, catching and coverage. The only thing they can't solve is the cheap AI making a comeback. This should help make for a better feel with stepping up and making a throw- All Pro- Pass Block 60 All Madden- Pass Block 80 Last edited by thisiscrazy411; 10-05-2007 at 05:38 PM.

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10-05-2007, 05:37 PM	#8
Xx 74 xX Pro OVR: 11 Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 653	Re: Stepping up in the pocket I constantly step up in the pocket, and based on what the rush is doing, I either run, or move a bit waiting for passing lanes to open up. It' does work. __________________ "The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few, or the one"

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