automatic vision cone/prodecural awareness

[Cryolemon]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tito78

This gives me an idea. Bring back the vision cone; however, the vision cone should be automatic. The user on offense wouldn't press anything to switch the cone from one WR to another. When you press a button to throw a pass to a receiver, if the cone doesn't happen to be on that particular receiver(because the QB isn't looking at him), the QB automatically will look at the receiver(the cone will switch to that receiver) before throwing the ball. How fast the QB locates the receiver would depend on that QB's awareness rating. The automatic vision cone would be for the defense; basically it would let the user on defense know where the QB is looking. The lower the QB's awareness rating, the easier it would be to read his eyes.

That's a cool idea.

[Lordcledus]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tito78

Right now, awarness is obsolete regarding the QB position, because the user is the one making the decisions. The only attributes that really mean anything are throwing power, accuracy and speed. Vince Young is more effective the Kerry Collins in Madden; hell, he's more effective than P.Manning, Rivers and Brady for that matter. That's not realistic at all. Procedural awarness could make decision making harder when using a QB with a lower awareness rating. If you've got P.Manning, he wouldn't lock on to receivers; he would look defenders off with ease, making it easier to complete passes. A young QB like Flacco or Ryan would lock onto receivers, which would allow defenders sitting in zone coverage to read his eyes more easily and make a play on the ball. Procedural awareness shouldn't just make the defenders the ball prior to making a play on it; procedural awareness should also make the QBs locate the WR before throwing the ball to him. This gives me an idea. Bring back the vision cone; however, the vision cone should be automatic. The user on offense wouldn't press anything to switch the cone from one WR to another. When you press a button to throw a pass to a receiver, if the cone doesn't happen to be on that particular receiver(because the QB isn't looking at him), the QB automatically will look at the receiver(the cone will switch to that receiver) before throwing the ball. How fast the QB locates the receiver would depend on that QB's awareness rating. The automatic vision cone would be for the defense; basically it would let the user on defense know where the QB is looking. The lower the QB's awareness rating, the easier it would be to read his eyes.

Quote: Originally Posted by kehlis

not one person has said it should be

Care to read that again?

[Exonerated]

He means it should lock on th receiver by itself. Instead of using the right analog to navigate the vision cone.

[Madwolf]

You didn't have to manually move the vision cone. You could always have held like R2 (PS controller) and then pressed the icon of the desired receiver to target him, then pass like normal once you have the right guy.

[RGiles36]

If I can inject here, I think everyone is just spinning wheels with trying to make enhancements to the passing game especially if one thinks it'll be something that makes it into Madden 10. Ian said several months ago that there would be no overhaul in this area, at least for this year.

[gabs485]

SOMETHING has to be don about the QB PA. Just think about it.
We as user can see the whole field which is a disadvantage for the defense. People would be looking right and throwing left. There has to be some sort of look before passing mechanism for QB PA to work effectively.

Think about it. Bring back the vision cone, same system, No flashligh or visual aid. The great thing about it is that there is not need for a flashlight because defense can now actually read the Qb's head.

[Tito78]

Quote: Originally Posted by Madwolf

You didn't have to manually move the vision cone. You could always have held like R2 (PS controller) and then pressed the icon of the desired receiver to target him, then pass like normal once you have the right guy.

A lot of people still didn't like the vision cone because of that. It would be better if the QB would scan the field automatically; if the user sees an open man that's not inside of the cone, the user would have to press the icon once to look at the receiver, and a second time to throw the ball.

Defenders who played like they had eyes in the back of their heads is the reason why this feature(procedural awareness) was introduced; it was to force defenders man coverage, who have their backs turned to the QB to turn around and locate the football before making a play on it.

This shouldn't just imply to players on defense; WRs, TEs and RBs should have to see the ball before catching it, and QBs should have to look at a receiver before throwing him the football.

[Tito78]

Quote: Originally Posted by rgiles36

If I can inject here, I think everyone is just spinning wheels with trying to make enhancements to the passing game especially if one thinks it'll be something that makes it into Madden 10. Ian said several months ago that there would be no overhaul in this area, at least for this year.

This isn't an overhaul of the passing game; procedural awareness needs to be implemented on both sides of the ball. Originally, it was created to stop defenders from reacting to a ball that they shouldn't be reacting to, because they're not looking at the ball. The offense will have a unfair advantage if defenders have to turn around and locate the ball, but the receivers are allowed to make plays on balls when they can't see them, and QBs can throw to receivers when they're not looking at them.