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Old 02-20-2009, 09:50 PM   #49
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Dunno, after I caught the ball and started to take off, #77 was standing right in front of me, face to face. I was thinking since I had momentum on my side, and was a DB, I could out run the 320 pound guy, who was facing me, turned, ran me down and tackled me.

I didn't see anything wrong there. The Lineman had the angle. Don't just think cause they are lineman that they cant move fast for a few yards. Now I was expecting something where u turned the corner and was running away and some lineman came and ran u down, but what u showed displayed accurate play to me.
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Old 02-21-2009, 03:21 AM   #50
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Re: Being ran down by an O-lineman (vid inside)

The eyes in the back on the linemen's head is the problem. They react instantaneously which is whats wrong with the video.

I don't think the speed or pursuit was really that big of a deal. Moderately accurate to me.
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Old 02-21-2009, 03:39 AM   #51
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The eyes in the back on the linemen's head is the problem. They react instantaneously which is whats wrong with the video.

I don't think the speed or pursuit was really that big of a deal. Moderately accurate to me.
I can understand that , but the OP titled this being ran down by a O Lineman, and besides the eyes behind the head scenario , everything else was fine, but we all know madden 09 has flaws, dont worry it will all be taken cared of for 2010.
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Old 02-21-2009, 04:52 PM   #52
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Re: Being ran down by an O-lineman (vid inside)

Thanks guys for all the responses. Whether seeing a problem with this highlight or not, I want to thank everyone who posted.

I think Cedwebb, mgkibbles, and Arc all see my point, and I'm glad a lot of you do. Like they said, right at the 4 second mark, I have momentum, fatigue (being SS I wasn't really moving, just playing center field), speed, acl, etc., I personally think it should have been a pic 6, unless Smith or CJ maybe catches me.

Just wanted to clairfy, I'm not bashing anything, just hoping things like this don't happen in Madden 10!
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Old 02-21-2009, 07:58 PM   #53
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Re: Being ran down by an O-lineman (vid inside)

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I didn't see anything wrong there. The Lineman had the angle. Don't just think cause they are lineman that they cant move fast for a few yards. Now I was expecting something where u turned the corner and was running away and some lineman came and ran u down, but what u showed displayed accurate play to me.
#77 had forward momentum after he miraculously recognized an interception despite having his focus fully on the defensive line in front of him, regardless of the fact that he really was not engaged in any blocking.

Like I said, he recognizes the interception, takes 2-3 steps forward at which point the SS already crosses his path. It is very difficult for an offensive linemen to slow his body down enough to make that 180 degree turn and then take the exact proper angle to make the tackle 15 yards down field. What makes this video even more unbelievable is the fact that offensive lineman actually turned on a dime without any slow down in motion.

I'm not making an attempt to discredit your knowledge or anything, but have you played on the offensive line before or coached offensive linemen? Playing on the line, you're usually not in-tune with the whole offense. Your primary focus is on anybody coming into your lanes, opening holes for the runningbacks, and protecting the quarterback long enough for him to get rid of the ball. Very rarely is the offensive linemen that quick to react to an interception. We're usually the last men to recognize the interception let alone make it all the way down the field taking the proper angle to make the touchdown saving tackle. We're not coached on proper angles for tackles as much as we are on blocking technique and what not. It's usually the last thing you work on if you even work on it in the first place.

In this video there is no way that the SS should not have turned it into a pick six. The offense had nobody else on that side of the field. The QB made a horrible mistake throwing amidst the blanket of defenders. It was a wide open lane all the way to the endzone just as long as the receivers on the opposite side of the field do not get free and/or take the proper angle. Most interceptions are not returned for a touchdown because most pro offenses don't make the mistake of flooding one side of the field with receivers leaving one side with only one receiver amidst that many defenders. That was a disaster waiting to happen for the offense and the QB.
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Old 02-21-2009, 08:14 PM   #54
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Re: Being ran down by an O-lineman (vid inside)

Also another thing I just noticed, not sure if anyone has pointed it out or not. After the INT is made you see all the Saints players start the downfield escort to get the pick 6.

No. 34 on the Saints (McKenzie?) is in full stride and is running towards the tackle in question to make the block. After "stopping" and "turning" the Tackles first two steps are enough to outrun an NFL CB trying to make the block. If even the slightest element of ACC applied to Madden, he would've made a keyy block and sprung him for a TD
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