Known Errors with Madden 10 release

[thudias]

Agree might be a little early..I just want to see the known errors before the game is shipped.

I could ask later if its more appropriate but I am sure it will have to go through legal and other departments before known errors are put on the internet so I figured i ask now so the ball could get rolling.

**no such thing as perfect software**

[MattIntellect]

Quote: Originally Posted by thudias

Agree might be a little early..I just want to see the known errors before the game is shipped. I could ask later if its more appropriate but I am sure it will have to go through legal and other departments before known errors are put on the internet so I figured i ask now so the ball could get rolling. **no such thing as perfect software**

The game hasn't even went gold yet. They're still working on the game and can't tell you about any bugs or glitches at this time.

[berad88]

It gets old hearing people think they know everything about the game making process.

[thudias]

tell me about it.

[PantherBeast_OS]

Quote: Originally Posted by MattIntellect

Those so called "known issues", are not always "known" or recognized by the Madden team. Those issues can be discovered by you when you play the game. In the event that you discover a bug, glitch, or any other issue, those could possibly be fixed through patches.

Ian said sometime back he wanted to avoiding having to do patches because it takes away from working the next madden. No one has a clue if there will be any major bugs. But I am sure if we get small ones. Then Ian will make a thread asking for all the bugs found then he will do one big patch. I am sure Ian and his team has tested this game over and over again for the past few weeks. So I ain;t to worried.

[roll2tide]

All the OP is saying is that it is common for bugs to found either right at or just after "Gold" time or during the time between Gold and Release. It is common to all software and any time you see a patch that's ready at or just after the release date then it is due to exactly this situation.

He's just asking if Ian and co will release this list prior to shipping or just release the items fixed after the 1st patch.

With all the changes this year if you think it will be bug free at ship then you are nothing short of delusional. There is simply not the man power nor testing hours available to find every bug in the final build before it goes gold. Why is this news to anyone? How many times have you ever bought software that was perfect right out of the box? the company may or may not release a patch but there almost always bugs and some are almost always known at the ship date by the devs.

[Ian_Cummings]

Agreed that a lot of things pop up after release that we didn't know about. We hate that as a development team, but the amount of man-hours spent in the game on in the first day of Madden's release dwarfs the amount of work we spend the entire year on the game as a team. We are aggressively pursuing ways to make sure big issues don't appear - the early community day was one such example this year...a 'beta' test is something we always want to look into for the future (couldn't happen for Madden 10 unfortunately...we didn't have enough time in the plan to get this done).

I have however been sort of loosely planning a thread or post to go ahead and set expectations and talk about some of the key areas/features we weren't able to address or areas we as a team think still need improvement. As I've said before there are quite a few features that did not fit in our official schedule but we were hoping to pull off some superhuman efforts to get them into the game. So as we final the game and I can say with certainty what features did or did not make it into the shipped/disc build of Madden 10, I want to share that with you guys so it's not like you're surprised by reading a review or when you put the disc in.

Let's be clear - there are areas that we know will not make people happy with some of the news we release. No game is perfect, and though I feel we have made some MAJOR strides to Madden this year, there are also some areas that I am not totally satisfied with. It's the hardest part about finaling video games - having to finally give up and accept that feature X isn't making it - but the good news is that since the interaction between the team and the community has been so strong this year, the hope is that everyone can see what DID accomplish, and balance that against what didn't make it in, realize that we are all moving in the right direction, and still enjoy Madden NFL 10 since we all think it's one hell of a great game.

There is no doubt that some people will be unhappy, and I just know we can't please everyone all the time (especially with this gigantic user-base), but I think we all agree that it's best that we get it out into the open and talk about why certain decisions were made and then we can all kind of collectively talk about the best solutions moving forward. I would say we as a team aren't doing our jobs very well if you have no clue why major wishlist feature X wasn't added to the game, and you can only speculate that "ZOMG the Madden team is a bunch of idiots, they don't even watch football, 2k5 rulz, blah blah blah".


Launch is going to be fun.

[ex carrabba fan]

Hopefully it'll be fun for us gamers