potential rating should be changed during progression.

[red butler]

Quote: Originally Posted by vaibhavp3

i think potential rating should change during progression why? ------------------------------------------------------------ say example i draft a LE 3# overall and he turns out to be a 70 rating and C potential, and you play him for the season and he gets like 16 sacks. so after the end of season in progression, because he is a c potential he would only go up like 2-4 points, now that messed up do you agree. because he had a amazing season his potential should go up to a B if he has at least 2 consistent years and then on. this would be great instead of having someone with C potential his whole career. so encounter this ea could possibly make a patch for this in franchise mode. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Pats going 16-0 baby.

Why can't we just be happy that the player had a great year? Why should his ratings go up? Maybe he's a great pass rusher, but not a good all-around defender. Maybe he benefits from the defensive system. He may be getting sacks because the rest of the D-Line is getting double-teamed. My point is, coaches assemble teams by getting players that fit their system. This DE may not perform as well in another defense. Why can't we look at a DE that has high sacks despite low ratings as a "pass rush specialist," instead of progressing him to be the greatest DE in NFL history.

[Richieh]

Quote: Originally Posted by jimmyy201

So ur saying that a player that on madden has a trucking of about 20. Yet has 3-4 broken tackles(by running over or trucking someone) in a game should not get a ratings boost in trucking?

In a real life game, or in your Madden game?
If it were a real life game, then EA should correct their ratings to reflect a re-evaluation of his abilities based on what they have seen.
If it's in Madden, then no, his ratings stay the same.

[Metsfanx]

Quote: Originally Posted by red butler

Why can't we just be happy that the player had a great year? Why should his ratings go up? Maybe he's a great pass rusher, but not a good all-around defender. Maybe he benefits from the defensive system. He may be getting sacks because the rest of the D-Line is getting double-teamed. My point is, coaches assemble teams by getting players that fit their system. This DE may not perform as well in another defense. Why can't we look at a DE that has high sacks despite low ratings as a "pass rush specialist," instead of progressing him to be the greatest DE in NFL history.

Everything you said is right on, however some of his ratings should go much higher. Maybe he shouldn't go from a 70 to a 99 OVR or whatever, but his "shed block" ability should increase significantly don't you think? Maybe he's now a 73 with a 92 shed block or something? Problem is, in the game as it is now that's not possible because his potential is a C, so he'll go up maybe 1 or 2 points and never sniff the 90's.

[red butler]

He's already very productive with his ratings where they are. Why make them significantly higher?

[vaibhavp3]

Quote: Originally Posted by Metsfanx

Everything you said is right on, however some of his ratings should go much higher. Maybe he shouldn't go from a 70 to a 99 OVR or whatever, but his "shed block" ability should increase significantly don't you think? Maybe he's now a 73 with a 92 shed block or something? Problem is, in the game as it is now that's not possible because his potential is a C, so he'll go up maybe 1 or 2 points and never sniff the 90's.

yh your right,everybody my point was that players with under b potential should only increase there potential rating if they perform very well in a consistence of 2 years. because he has performed well at c potential he deserves to go up 1 potential rating.

[vaibhavp3]

Quote: Originally Posted by 4949

I get what you're saying but I have to disagree, for any player in the NFL having a great season does not mean you improve the next season. If the LE#3 gets the 16 sacks why does he need to improve? He is already good enough to get 16 sacks. Realistically its possible that this is as good physically and mentally as he gets and that he will never get 16 sacks again. In the NFL guys off the bench who didn't so a thing one year can suddenly become good. Sometimes guys have a great season and the next year they can suck. (If a player on Madden had ratings go down after a great season people would say progression is broke but in the real world guys have great seasons all the time then their play drops off the next year) (especially after they get that huge contract, lol) I like the potential rating because it sets a ceiling for some guys who no matter how great they play this is it they aren't going to have a better season than the year before every season. My only problem is that realistically I think the potential rating should be internal and we should never see it. I personally find it fun to try to get a play to play at a high a level dispite not having a high potential.

i understand what your saying but hear me lets say you drafted a wr and he has a 82 in every catch category and he every year play's great but he has a D potential. because he played well consistently and is a great wr, he cant go up because of his D potential, so there is a reason for him to improve to a c or a, so he deserves to go up a potential rating because of his numbers.

[Richieh]

Quote: Originally Posted by vaibhavp3

i understand what your saying but hear me lets say you drafted a wr and he has a 82 in every catch category and he every year play's great but he has a D potential. because he played well consistently and is a great wr, he cant go up because of his D potential, so there is a reason for him to improve to a c or a, so he deserves to go up a potential rating because of his numbers.

You still don't understand it. What the potential rating does is categorise that player as one of those, and there are many such players, who can put up good numbers but not actually get any better.
All EA need to do is hide the potential ratings next year.
That way, you get your decently rated receiver, invest some time playing him, and at the end of the season he might progress a lot or he might not at all, or he might even regress.

[4949]

Quote: Originally Posted by vaibhavp3

i understand what your saying but hear me lets say you drafted a wr and he has a 82 in every catch category and he every year play's great but he has a D potential. because he played well consistently and is a great wr, he cant go up because of his D potential, so there is a reason for him to improve to a c or a, so he deserves to go up a potential rating because of his numbers.

I think we will probably just disagree on this and there is nothing wrong with that but I think there should be players like the one you listed that don't get better. Some players will come out as a rookie and have a decent season and never get but so much better. Some players have a greater potential to improve than others. Thats not saying a player without high potential can't have a good season but their speed, agility, route running, etc... does not get any better the next year than it was this year, and I don't see anything wrong with that.

The player with 20 in trucking who breaks 3-4 tackles that someone suggested shouldn't have to improve his ratings at the end of the year. If he does that means next year he can break 5-6 tackles. For some players breaking 5-6 tackles should be the best they can ever do and no matter how many times they break 3-4 they get no better than that.

The year after Jamal Lewis put up 2000 yds he didn't put up 2100 yds. He had reached his potential. I just feel regardless of how great a season you have there should be a top limit to how good you get and potential shouldn't increase.