Should we REALLY be giving EA advice(wishes)?

[jsquigg]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tito78

The gameplay and the franchise stats should work properly out of the box. You can't blame the consumers for wanting accurate sim stats when that's what they paid for.

Except you didn't pay for a game with accurate stats, that was just your expectation. It's funny how much influence people think they have as opposed to how much they really have. Developing games that simulate sports on a yearly cycle without having any flaws in them is impossible. Madden is just a video game and they have made huge strides and with Ian in charge I suspect they will continue to. With that said, I think the devs could do a better job filtering the feedback and having thicker skin. It's funny how the criticism comes from people with zero experience in game development.

[jvaccaro]

I like the game post patches much better, and it was alright to begin with. sure, it's not perfect, but it's fun.

our feedback didn't only affect the patches, but the new "sim" direction of the dev team, and I personally love it. I have no reason to believe that Madden 11 won't be the best ever, and I'm really digging this year now.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tito78

The gameplay and the franchise stats should work properly out of the box. You can't blame the consumers for wanting accurate sim stats when that's what they paid for.

That's interesting to note, but every yearly cycle sports game I own on the 360 requires patches.

[stux]

Quote: Originally Posted by DonkeyJote

I think that overall, the stats thing is being blown out of proportions. Yeah, the rushing stats are messed up now, but passing stats, receiving stats, rushing td', and sacks all seem to be much improved. Overall, they seem better to me. Are they perfect? God no. 7 ypc is pretty bad. But I'll take one bad stat over about 7 or 8 bad stats and be okay with it.

if you think sacks are good you havne't ever paid attention to the NFL.

[Tito78]

Quote: Originally Posted by jsquigg

Except you didn't pay for a game with accurate stats, that was just your expectation. It's funny how much influence people think they have as opposed to how much they really have. Developing games that simulate sports on a yearly cycle without having any flaws in them is impossible. Madden is just a video game and they have made huge strides and with Ian in charge I suspect they will continue to. With that said, I think the devs could do a better job filtering the feedback and having thicker skin. It's funny how the criticism comes from people with zero experience in game development.

Shouldn't I EXPECT a product that I purchase to work properly ? The stats were out of wack out of the box; they are out of wack now. Consumers should expect modes in the game to work properly. It's a short development cycle; there will obviously be problems. However, it's been over four months, with two patches and the stats still aren't corrected.

People who pay for a product have the right to criticize it's faults whether they have experience in developing games or not.

In my opinion, Madden 10 hasn't made the huge strides that you claim they have. It's a game of last gen quality with current gen graphics. If this game came out in 2006, it would have been golden. It's 2009, there's nothing that you can do in Madden 10 on current gen platforms that you can't do on last gen platforms.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tito78

Shouldn't I EXPECT a product that I purchase to work properly ? The stats were out of wack out of the box; they are out of wack now. Consumers should expect modes in the game to work properly. It's a short development cycle; there will obviously be problems. However, it's been over four months, with two patches and the stats still aren't corrected. People who pay for a product have the right to criticize it's faults whether they have experience in developing games or not. In my opinion, Madden 10 hasn't made the huge strides that you claim they have. It's a game of last gen quality with current gen graphics. If this game came out in 2006, it would have been golden. It's 2009, there's nothing that you can do in Madden 10 on current gen platforms, that you can't do on last gen platforms.

I'm assuming that football is your only gaming sport, then. Even the other sports game that I own, with at least 2 patches, sometimes 3, there are some people that aren't happy because the patch/patches didn't fix a certain area.

I'm not sure what expectations were when Josh mentioned between patch number 1 and patch number 2 that he stated it's a very touchy area of adjusting stats because if you adjust/ touch one area, another area will be affected. That brought out a yellow caution flag to me when I read that.

I don't agree with your assessment, either. Sounds like you didn't purchase 08 or 09 because those of us that did know that 10 is much better than 08 and 09 and appears to be headed in the right direction.

It's not a perfect game and does need areas to improve upon. There is no denying that.

[DonkeyJote]

Quote: Originally Posted by stux

if you think sacks are good you havne't ever paid attention to the NFL.

They're still not perfect, but better than they were. If you think that they're worse now, apparently you haven't ever paid attention to a 3-4 defense.

[Pared]

Tread carefully fellas. Some people are slowly tip-toeing the line with their posts.

If you're frustrated, find a better way to express it.