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Jwharris10 · 08-11-2010, 02:50 AM

I'm having trouble gang tackling. It seems like if my teammate has the guy wrapped up I cannot come in and join him in the tackle. Has anyone else noticed this?

clivo1050 · 08-11-2010, 04:35 AM

There are gang tackles in the game. However, if a defender is already engaged in a one-on-one tackle animation, you cannot pile on. There are only certain instances where pro-tak kicks in and allows for true gang tackling.

I don't understand how they couldn't just blend pro-tak in with the existing tackling animations to allow for true gang tackling.

The way it stands, pro-tak is very limited in terms of gang tackling, this needs to be a priority going forward. Tackling, in general, is a sore spot for the series. A proper physics system would allow for more dynamic tackling, but I doubt it will happen next year.

PGaither84 · 08-11-2010, 06:03 AM

Agreed. Pro-tak is a nice technology or what ever they want to call it, but it is still very limited in what it can do. I really would like to see more of a real time physics engine take over. Football isn't a contact sport, it is a collision sport. The one thing BB does right is it's tackling, and the most glaring flaw since video game football has been around is proper tackling/gang tackling/etc. there are other games that did a nice job with tackles that can be branched into and is one of the reasons people love those games. I know it is a reason why I do. Even they don't have it perfect. I really hope that this and defensive "realistic assignments" to correspond to the offensive assignments from this year are the main focus of game play in Madden 12.

Candyman5 · 08-11-2010, 06:15 AM

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	I'm having trouble gang tackling. It seems like if my teammate has the guy wrapped up I cannot come in and join him in the tackle. Has anyone else noticed this?

Its similiar to NCAA IMO. Once someone has a person engaged then all you do is basically bounce off, it was the same in NCAA. The thing is though, if you hit the guy first then every single CPU guy can join in. It makes no sense IMO.

huskerwr38 · 08-11-2010, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by PGaither84


	Agreed. Pro-tak is a nice technology or what ever they want to call it, but it is still very limited in what it can do. I really would like to see more of a real time physics engine take over. Football isn't a contact sport, it is a collision sport. The one thing BB does right is it's tackling, and the most glaring flaw since video game football has been around is proper tackling/gang tackling/etc. 2k games did a nice job of tackles that can be branched into and is one of the reasons people love 2k games. I know it is a reason why I do. Even they don't have it perfect. I really hope that this and defensive "realistic assignments" to correspond to the offensive assignments from this year are the main focus of game play in Madden 12.

I agree 100%. This should be the number one priority, as far as gameplay goes, for next year. It is EXTREMELY unrealistic...I mean how many times do you EVER see a one on one tackle and 3-4 guys just come in and bounce off? I mean one on one tackles are not that common either. The thing that worries me is that the devs probably already think that they solved this problem with pro-tak, and since they didn't touch pro-tak (it was a MAJOR feature last year and we didn't hear a peep out of it this year) I don't think we'll see any progress in terms of the tackling engine anytime soon.

PaPZ187 · 08-11-2010, 02:17 PM

+1 Tackling needs improvement, especially gang tackling.

If one of my teammates has a RB but is having trouble bringing him down I want to lay the HIT STICK on his a** and knock them both out, that would be sick and make the game 100 times more enjoyable.

Tackling is what Football is all about, come on EA you MUST improve on this ASAP!!!

SA1NT401 · 08-11-2010, 02:26 PM

The tackling in M11, to me...IS the worst its been honestly. There is no way to do it yourself as the GAME decides when a PRO-TAK moment kicks in. I kn ow they lessened the effect from Madden10, but C'mon...80-90% of ALL tackles are 1 on 1 with 4-7 defenders falling down around the ballcarrier....This leads to HUGE gains from ONE broken tackle, when it should never have happened.

Its the same in NCAA11...BUT...Its "HIDDEN" a bit better and you really do see more PRO-TAK moments that give you the illusion of MULTI-Hit tackles.

Its foolish in this day and age that the tackles have actually gotten worse instead of being a-mazing.

Have been tweaking sliders and have played with certain areas and have been able to get more Pro-Tak moments....But im at work and dont remember my slider set honestly. Have done alot of adjusting.

PantherBeast_OS · 08-11-2010, 02:35 PM

Ya the gang tackling ain't there as much as it was last year. It is kind of strange why it was toned down alot for. But was done so. I'm assuming the locomotion they put in this had something to do with them toning it down some. But honestly it really to me it ain't a big bother to me. But I'm sure once the madden crew switch madden to a new Physics engine in a few years. Gang tackling will be more productive and more real looking then it was in madden 10. But I'm happy with the tackling for now until then.

08-11-2010, 02:50 AM	#1
Jwharris10 Rookie OVR: 3 Join Date: May 2009	Gang Tackling? I'm having trouble gang tackling. It seems like if my teammate has the guy wrapped up I cannot come in and join him in the tackle. Has anyone else noticed this?

08-11-2010, 04:35 AM	#2
clivo1050 Pro OVR: 9 Join Date: Aug 2006	Re: Gang Tackling? There are gang tackles in the game. However, if a defender is already engaged in a one-on-one tackle animation, you cannot pile on. There are only certain instances where pro-tak kicks in and allows for true gang tackling. I don't understand how they couldn't just blend pro-tak in with the existing tackling animations to allow for true gang tackling. The way it stands, pro-tak is very limited in terms of gang tackling, this needs to be a priority going forward. Tackling, in general, is a sore spot for the series. A proper physics system would allow for more dynamic tackling, but I doubt it will happen next year.

08-11-2010, 06:03 AM	#3
PGaither84 MVP OVR: 49 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Lima, Peru Blog Entries: 15	Re: Gang Tackling? Agreed. Pro-tak is a nice technology or what ever they want to call it, but it is still very limited in what it can do. I really would like to see more of a real time physics engine take over. Football isn't a contact sport, it is a collision sport. The one thing BB does right is it's tackling, and the most glaring flaw since video game football has been around is proper tackling/gang tackling/etc. there are other games that did a nice job with tackles that can be branched into and is one of the reasons people love those games. I know it is a reason why I do. Even they don't have it perfect. I really hope that this and defensive "realistic assignments" to correspond to the offensive assignments from this year are the main focus of game play in Madden 12. __________________ My Madden Blog Last edited by PGaither84; 08-12-2010 at 10:14 AM.

08-11-2010, 02:17 PM	#6
PaPZ187 Rookie OVR: 2 Join Date: Jul 2010	Re: Gang Tackling? +1 Tackling needs improvement, especially gang tackling. If one of my teammates has a RB but is having trouble bringing him down I want to lay the HIT STICK on his a** and knock them both out, that would be sick and make the game 100 times more enjoyable. Tackling is what Football is all about, come on EA you MUST improve on this ASAP!!!

08-11-2010, 02:26 PM	#7
SA1NT401 Banned OVR: 25 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Ocean State	Re: Gang Tackling? The tackling in M11, to me...IS the worst its been honestly. There is no way to do it yourself as the GAME decides when a PRO-TAK moment kicks in. I kn ow they lessened the effect from Madden10, but C'mon...80-90% of ALL tackles are 1 on 1 with 4-7 defenders falling down around the ballcarrier....This leads to HUGE gains from ONE broken tackle, when it should never have happened. Its the same in NCAA11...BUT...Its "HIDDEN" a bit better and you really do see more PRO-TAK moments that give you the illusion of MULTI-Hit tackles. Its foolish in this day and age that the tackles have actually gotten worse instead of being a-mazing. Have been tweaking sliders and have played with certain areas and have been able to get more Pro-Tak moments....But im at work and dont remember my slider set honestly. Have done alot of adjusting.

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08-11-2010, 02:35 PM	#8
PantherBeast_OS RKO!! OVR: 53 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: North Carolina Posts: 6,694 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Gang Tackling? Ya the gang tackling ain't there as much as it was last year. It is kind of strange why it was toned down alot for. But was done so. I'm assuming the locomotion they put in this had something to do with them toning it down some. But honestly it really to me it ain't a big bother to me. But I'm sure once the madden crew switch madden to a new Physics engine in a few years. Gang tackling will be more productive and more real looking then it was in madden 10. But I'm happy with the tackling for now until then.

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