Playmakers Madden 12 Custom Sliders

[godofwar757]

Quote: Originally Posted by Chedapalooza

There's inconsistencies in the run game bc 1- user skill, 2- different teams / player ratings These variables compounded (a bad user using a weak rushing team) leads to guys coming here saying they can't run n the set is broken.. These are thr best thus far, pm.. Don't drive urself n others nuts bc I few can't run the ball of throw... Deep throws, most passing plays, pinch the line- if u don't know what that means, get better at madden... These aren't rookie level sliders, they require knowledge of football n this game. If u constantly tweak the front page every time a guy says I CANT do this or that, then we will never have a base . A base should be the hardest IMO, bc guys then know what they need to bring up to HELP.. Or they could just PRACTICE!

So nice had to say it twice!!! Amen brotha

[Playmakers]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dynasty tD

So I am using the sliders posted on the front page except I have cam newton so QBA: 18 and CATCH: 58 and I'm playing against the packers so QBA: 92 and CATCH:8 this is just the first half stats and I really love the animations and fluidness of it all with these sliders QB:Cam Newton 6/9 75 Yards 0 TD 1 INT (looks pretty accurate to me haha) HB: DeAngelo Williams 11 ATT for 151 yards and 2 TDs (???) QB: Aaron Rodgers 11/15 193 Yards 1 TD HB: Ryan Grant 4 ATT 24 Yards 6.0 AVG To me the computer looks on point and my passing seems like that's where it should be, but my run game is just dominating. Anything I can do to slow myself down? I have auto sprint ON

you have to kinda work up slowly to the next level 75 total points for CPU Run Defense....

The base setting is 50 total points....

Try this without touching any other sliders

Run Reaction-34
Block Shed-20
Tackle-6

That will you put the CPU Run D at 60 or you can go

Run Reaction-36
Block Shed-24
Tackle-0

[Playmakers]

Quote: Originally Posted by godofwar757

So nice had to say it twice!!! Amen brotha

yeah he does have a great point

[Playmakers]

Quote: Originally Posted by Trojan Man

I really liked the outcomes. Foster got wicked on a couple of runs, but it's not like he was on PCP all game long. It was harder than I thought it should be to get McFadden going, but it could just be a sample size thing. I want to test more on my own running game to see if I can actually top 100 with DMac, which I've yet to do on any of your settings. I will confess that I'm lowering the CPU pass rush slider by quite a bit. No matter what I do I just get sacked 5 times or more per game, and I don't want to reduce myself to never throwing deep double move routes because I never have more than 2 seconds to throw, even if I keep 7 in.

I have no problems with that because the CPU is at 176 (175) Pass defense...

I just wouldn't drop them below the 150 mark which is where the Human Offense is at right now for passing

[RogueHominid]

Quote: Originally Posted by DJ

The CPU Pass Rush is a problem, especially when it comes to throwing passes more than 15 yards downfield. It's near-impossible to hit a post route or 15-yard dig because the CPU will be on you. I have no issues with getting sacked, it's just the frequency is too high. The offensive line really does a poor job of holding blocks when you look at the replays.

1st off, I agree with Chedda that you can't take a game by game approach to evaluating sliders. Running is hard for me on PM's sets, so I look at replays to see where I may have missed a cutback lane, and I think harder about my play calling and audible system. I look at those things over several games, and *then* I tweak if need be.

Dan, I agree that the sole flaw with this phenomenal set is that the CPU pass rush is entirely unreaslistic and that it forces you to develop a passing game that is almost entirely built on check down and hot route throws. I don't think you should have 3+ seconds every play, but I think it should be possible to throw a clown route without having to keep 7 men in.

That's a USER issue and I'm working on that pretty hard at the moment. I'll PM any worthwhile results I find.

Back to work for now, and then more party time with a team built for 0 threshold speed sliders!

[Playmakers]

Quote: Originally Posted by Trojan Man

1st off, I agree with Chedda that you can't take a game by game approach to evaluating sliders. Running is hard for me on PM's sets, so I look at replays to see where I may have missed a cutback lane, and I think harder about my play calling and audible system. I look at those things over several games, and *then* I tweak if need be. Dan, I agree that the sole flaw with this phenomenal set is that the CPU pass rush is entirely unreaslistic and that it forces you to develop a passing game that is almost entirely built on check down and hot route throws. I don't think you should have 3+ seconds every play, but I think it should be possible to throw a clown route without having to keep 7 men in. That's a USER issue and I'm working on that pretty hard at the moment. I'll PM any worthwhile results I find. Back to work for now, and then more party time with a team built for 0 threshold speed sliders!

I wonder if the total value for human offense is tied into pass rush effectiveness

for example lets say i boost up the Human WR catch slider making the Human passing game equal to that of the CPU pass defense will that simple tweak alone make it appear more equal between the OL vs DL even without touching the human Pass Block slider?

I mean if the game actually works depending on level's then i'd think making human pass O equal to CPU pass D in total value gives you equal and fair play in that aspect of the game right?

I know most guys lower the CPU pass rush and my setup is kinda way out there in left field with it but i think there (CPU) Pass Defense holds up better when they can force the human player into quicker reads and decisions

i'd probably say between 86-90 Pass Rush will get you that extra second or two that you need to let the deep routes develope without having to leave in 7 to block

[Dynasty tD]

Quote: Originally Posted by Playmakers

you have to kinda work up slowly to the next level 75 total points for CPU Run Defense.... The base setting is 50 total points.... Try this without touching any other sliders Run Reaction-34 Block Shed-20 Tackle-6 That will you put the CPU Run D at 60 or you can go Run Reaction-36 Block Shed-24 Tackle-0

Thank you! I plugged in the 36-24-0 into my sliders and just played a game and I felt the defense was a lot better stopping the run, I think I'll need to play another game before I think it really needs tweaks again, but if you look at the stats Mathews averaged almost 6.0 and Tolbert 8.8
The game was way good though, I ended up throwing a pick in the redzone off an awesome tip by a lineman and another one by Tracy Porter jumping a play action route it was nice though!!
I do wish the Saints would've ran it more, but they were down pretty much the entire game. Great game though like I said thank you for the help haha!

New Orleans Saints at San Diego Chargers
Jan 1,	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
New Orleans Saints ()	7	7	7	10	31
San Diego Chargers ()	7	17	0	10	34

Team Stats Comparison
	NOR	SDG
Total Offense	341	489
Rushing Yards	56	196
Passing Yards	285	293
First Downs	11	23
Punt Return Yards	0	6
Kick Return Yards	168	76
Total Yards	509	571
Turnovers	0	2
3rd Down Converstion	2-6 33%	7-10 70%
4th Down Conversion
2-Point Conversion
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals
Penalties	2-10	4-23
Posession Time	11:41	28:19

Scoring Summary
FIRST QUARTER SCORING		NOR	SDG
2:15	(SDG) R.Mathews 3 Yd run	0	7
0:46	(NOR) L.Moore 28 Yd pass from D.Brees	7	7
SECOND QUARTER SCORING		NOR	SDG
8:05	(SDG) R.Mathews 1 Yd run	7	14
4:38	(NOR) A.Arrington 24 Yd pass from D.Brees	14	14
2:02	(SDG) M.Tolbert 7 Yd run	14	21
0:00	(SDG) N.Novak 49 Yd FG	14	24
THIRD QUARTER SCORING		NOR	SDG
2:59	(NOR) D.Sproles 13 Yd run	21	24
FOURTH QUARTER SCORING		NOR	SDG
8:04	(SDG) M.Tolbert 1 Yd run	21	31
4:33	(NOR) J.Kasay 52 Yd FG	24	31
1:45	(SDG) N.Novak 31 Yd FG	24	34
1:17	(NOR) L.Moore 11 Yd pass from D.Brees	31	34

New Orleans Saints PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Philip Rivers 18/25 293 0 2 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Ryan Mathews 26 154 5.9 2 Mike Tolbert 5 44 8.8 2 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Antonio Gates 6 57 9.5 0 Malcolm Floyd 5 121 24.2 0 Randy McMichael 2 24 12.0 0 Patrick Crayton 2 59 29.5 0 Vincent Jackson 2 28 14.0 0 Ryan Mathews 1 4 4.0 0

San Diego Chargers PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Drew Brees 16/24 306 3 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Mark Ingram 5 40 8.0 0 Pierre Thomas 3 2 0.6 0 Darren Sproles 2 14 7.0 1 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD Lance Moore 4 68 17.0 2 Jimmy Graham 4 46 11.5 0 Devery Henderson 3 127 42.3 0 Robert Meachem 2 24 12.0 0 Adrian Arrington 1 24 24.0 1 Courtney Roby 1 11 11.0 0 Mark Ingram 1 6 6.0 0

[Playmakers]

Dynasty tD

I just realized the number you might be looking for is 42 for CPU Run Reaction time

So disregard my previous post and try 42 that leaves the Block shed and tackle sliders the same as the human player

Run Reaction-42
Block Shed-18
Tackle-0

Also another thing that might fix it without even changing a single slider is the threshold setting....you can close the gap between player speed by increasing it upwards which could make the CPU run D better just by going up on it.