Instead of ratings why not just abilities..

[codyj123_321]

I think APF2K8 had the right idea, as i have seen so do a few people on here. The problem with the ratings is what is really the difference between 99 THP and 93 THP? I can't seen one and the same goes for throwing accuracy. The ratings also don't really make elite players seem different from just average players. Madden 12 for example, I won a super bowl with LEVI BROWN in a first year chise btw. I played on All-star(I believe that's the one just before all-madden?) and finished 2nd in MVP race. What i'm getting at with that little story is that I shouldn't be able to carve up D's and put up MVP numbers with a 70 OVR QB. I think just having abilities like Cannon Arm, Laser Arm, Glue Hands, etc. instead of ratings would result in more accurate play styles of players. It's just my opinion and i would love to hear some of you all to elaborate on this further.

[Skyboxer]

Reason why I think ratings should be hidden and only 40 times, bench etc are shown. Like I posted in the other thread... Let us use practice, combine and games to judge where people are and have an area we can input those numbers that follow that player so if we rate someone and dont sign them.. If later he comes up again via FA or trade offer we can see where we rated them before. Of course only we could see what we rated them and not other owners.
IMO that would add lot more feelings of ownership and coaiching/scouting. Not to mention maybe rating someone less that what they are and not taking them then whatching them have a pro bowl year on another team. Oops..
That gets us closer to te real deal IMO.
We finally have where performance affects overall thank goodness and that is a step in the right direction.

[codyj123_321]

Quote: Originally Posted by Skyboxer

Reason why I think ratings should be hidden and only 40 times, bench etc are shown. Like I posted in the other thread... Let us use practice, combine and games to judge where people are and have an area we can input those numbers that follow that player so if we rate someone and dont sign them.. If later he comes up again via FA or trade offer we can see where we rated them before. Of course only we could see what we rated them and not other owners. IMO that would add lot more feelings of ownership and coaiching/scouting. Not to mention maybe rating someone less that what they are and not taking them then whatching them have a pro bowl year on another team. Oops.. That gets us closer to te real deal IMO. We finally have where performance affects overall thank goodness and that is a step in the right direction.

I like what your saying. Especially about them having a pro bowl season cause that's another reason where rating fail cause you can't have any breakout years cause of what there rating limits them too. I can't recall ever seeing a QB rated lets say a 72 and then just play a monster season and then jump up into the elite ranks like up to an 89 or 90. It would kinda be like the NCAA gem feature but better. If that makes any sense..

[StrawHat Patriot]

I really like abilities too.

[cuttingteeth]

I think the problem will become that it would then cost Donny Moore and others on the ratings team their jobs. This is why I proposed letting Donny and crew instead focus all their efforts on building and controlling a teambuilder styled site for everyone to generate their rosters from - ratings, editing in full, etc.

This would keep jobs intact, as no matter how frustrated I can get at game features in or out, I won't call for someone to lose their job. I just want their job focused better and done more to what makes better sense for their time, resources and per the goals of fan enjoyment. The website I have in mind would do just that.

[Senator Palmer]

I always liked the idea, but it's just not the way EA wants to do things. I remember this subject came up a few years ago, and the way it was explained - by Ian if I remember correctly - was that no matter if you have abilities or not, there is still a number representing everything a player does. APF had ratings behind all of those abilities, they were just hidden from my understanding. So, all you're doing is hiding that number from the user, but the CPU/AI would always have it when it evaluated things.

So, it's not really changing the way the game functions, it's just handicapping the user.

[Skyboxer]

Quote: Originally Posted by cuttingteeth

I think the problem will become that it would then cost Donny Moore and others on the ratings team their jobs. This is why I proposed letting Donny and crew instead focus all their efforts on building and controlling a teambuilder styled site for everyone to generate their rosters from - ratings, editing in full, etc. This would keep jobs intact, as no matter how frustrated I can get at game features in or out, I won't call for someone to lose their job. I just want their job focused better and done more to what makes better sense for their time, resources and per the goals of fan enjoyment. The website I have in mind would do just that.

Actually having the ratings hidden and letting us detemine what we "think" they are has no bearing on Moore etc... Someone would still need to program in the ratings.

[cuttingteeth]

Quote: Originally Posted by Skyboxer

Actually having the ratings hidden and letting us detemine what we "think" they are has no bearing on Moore etc... Someone would still need to program in the ratings.

In my vision, they would generate a base-roster-template like always and leave it at that within the website. We would pick up from there and do whatever else to our hearts' content (within reason, of course, as they would have to mod and control some things). The bulk of their work would indeed be modding and controlling the bugs/glitches/BS of the site like is the norm.