Your 2008 Toronto Blue Jays!

Collapse

Recommended Videos

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Crash Davis
    Banned
    • Jan 2008
    • 1321

    #1

    Your 2008 Toronto Blue Jays!

    Noteables.
    Added: David Eckstein, Marco Scutaro, Scott Rolen, Rod Barajas
    Dropped: Troy Glaus, Josh Towers



    Around the Horn Outfielders (toronto) From MLB.com


    The official website of the Toronto Blue Jays with the most up-to-date information on news, tickets, schedule, stadium, roster, rumors, scores, and stats.
    Last edited by Crash Davis; 01-25-2008, 12:06 AM.
  • theaub
    Stop! Homer Time!
    • Feb 2004
    • 9643

    #2
    Re: Your 2008 Toronto Blue Jays!

    I was waiting for someone to put this out...I made the last two ones and since we didn't make the playoffs in either year I figured someone else should do it lol.

    In what is a shameless plug for my dynasty story, I'll be putting out a 30-part, in-depth, 25,000 word (maybe more, who knows?) preview on the Blue Jays, of which you can find by checking out the link below. Why, you ask? Well, first of all, and most importantly, since I've applied for a Job as an intern in the Jays front office this year, I figure I should get to know the organization a little better. Secondly, I'm submitting this to an undisclosed site for publication. And thirdly, its fun to learn about players. Since its 30 parts, and I'd like to have it all closed off by mid-March, I'll release stuff every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, which will mean that the preview will be finished on March 28th.

    Right now, parts one and two are up, and the roster is upcoming for the next, uh, 21 parts (lol, when I said it was in-depth, I wasn't lying) to come throughout the next month and a half. That'll be followed by a look at the minors, managment, stadium, schedule and finally my final thoughts and conclusions. I hope everyone here reads it and doesn't hesitate to give feedback. Thanks!
    Blue Jays, Blackhawks, Auburn

    Comment

    • SPTO
      binging
      • Feb 2003
      • 68046

      #3
      Re: Your 2008 Toronto Blue Jays!

      theaub i'll definitely be reading your thoughts. I think you're one of the smarter Jays fans here. Although we disagree with some things I think in the end we'll have the same guarded optimism for this team.

      Anyways i'm really looking forward to the season. I just hope the hitting can rebound.
      Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

      "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

      Comment

      • theaub
        Stop! Homer Time!
        • Feb 2004
        • 9643

        #4
        Re: Your 2008 Toronto Blue Jays!

        Guarded optimism sums up the team this year. I mean if everything goes right they could win 95 games, but if the pitching falters and the hitting stays the same as last year this team will be lucky to win 75. I've never seen such a drastic swing in both team hitting and team pitching in one season.
        Blue Jays, Blackhawks, Auburn

        Comment

        • SPTO
          binging
          • Feb 2003
          • 68046

          #5
          Re: Your 2008 Toronto Blue Jays!

          LOL!

          I bet Rod Barajas feels like a fool as the Jays were willing to overpay him and he went to the Phils instead. Now he's signed a 1 yr deal with an option for '09 at 1.2 mil.

          At least he'll be a solid backup to Zaun.
          Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

          "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

          Comment

          • theaub
            Stop! Homer Time!
            • Feb 2004
            • 9643

            #6
            Re: Your 2008 Toronto Blue Jays!

            Beats Sal Fasano, thats for sure.
            Blue Jays, Blackhawks, Auburn

            Comment

            • Crash Davis
              Banned
              • Jan 2008
              • 1321

              #7
              Re: Your 2008 Toronto Blue Jays!

              Good stuff ill keep an eye out, thats awesome how you might get an intern job... im jelous if u could swing me a job thats at least higher than a vendor let me know im only in guelph its not that hard to commute lol

              Comment

              • Crash Davis
                Banned
                • Jan 2008
                • 1321

                #8
                Re: Your 2008 Toronto Blue Jays!

                Is there any shot Barajas becomes 1st string? I just really dont have faith in zaun something about him just shouts out failure to me, I cant even picture him starting and winning a World Series (i know FLA) but i still cant picture him being the catcher running upto the pitcher after a strikeout and what not he'd probably throw his back out

                Comment

                • theaub
                  Stop! Homer Time!
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 9643

                  #9
                  Re: Your 2008 Toronto Blue Jays!

                  As you can see by my piece on Zaun today, I disagree with your sentiments. However, I'll add a little more info here.

                  Zaun's CERA vs Team ERA
                  2004 (97 GP): 4.76/4.91 (0.15 difference)
                  2005 (132 GP): 3.79/4.06 (0.27 difference)
                  2006 (72 GP): 4.34/4.37 (0.03 difference)
                  2007 (103 GP): 3.55/4.00 (0.45 difference)

                  So in the four years that Zaun has played in Toronto, pitchers ERA when he was behind the plate has always been lower than when he wasn't. And on the flip side, you have to think that the difference is doubled (since the ERA has to be equally higher when Zaun wasn't behind the plate to even out). So when he played 132 games in 2005, for the ERA to still be 0.27 runs off his CERA, the CERA of other catchers had to be something like 4.80, and last year it had to be something like 4.70. That means that the true difference between Zaun and his backup was about a run in 2 of the last 3 years. That is very impressive.
                  Blue Jays, Blackhawks, Auburn

                  Comment

                  • SPTO
                    binging
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 68046

                    #10
                    Re: Your 2008 Toronto Blue Jays!

                    A couple notes

                    - BJ Ryan will be throwing off a mound on Monday. It'll be the first time he's done so since May 10th. The Jays are going to bring him along as slowly as possible.

                    - JP Ricciardi when asked about the 5th Starter spot is saying he thinks Jannsen can be the guy to fill that role. (big mistake IMO) I don't know why JP is going against Gibbons and the common sense reality that Casey is doing just fine as a back end reliever. Let's hope JP doesn't throw his weight around and force Gibbons into making that stupid move.
                    Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

                    "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

                    Comment

                    • theaub
                      Stop! Homer Time!
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 9643

                      #11
                      Re: Your 2008 Toronto Blue Jays!

                      From what I got out of the article, if BJ is healthy he's just saying its a waste to use Janssen as a 7th inning reliever when they could start him. Which is true, but I mean Litsch pitched pretty well last year so its not like we really need a 5th starter. If Towers or Chacin were the 5th starter then I could see what he's saying.
                      Blue Jays, Blackhawks, Auburn

                      Comment

                      • Crash Davis
                        Banned
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 1321

                        #12
                        Re: Your 2008 Toronto Blue Jays!

                        yeah aub u made a good arguement about zaun i must say..
                        with Janssen i dunno what to think really, my initial reaction is keep him where he is, but then think about this even if we tried listch out, what if in may or something he collapsed, we'd be screwed probably its very hard to turn a reliever into a starter in the middle of the season, I think that might be why JP is so into making a decision now. Chacin's still there but owell we all know the only way he's won in the past is from a Horseshoe up his ***

                        Comment

                        • SPTO
                          binging
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 68046

                          #13
                          Re: Your 2008 Toronto Blue Jays!

                          So according to Blair, Shannon Stewart is a Jay again. He signed a minor league deal with an invite to spring training. His career is obviously near its end IMO so i'd like to see him catch on with the team. I always liked Stewart even though he didn't have the strongest arm in the world. A lot of his speed has been taken away from him in recent years but he's a valuable utility/spot starter type IMO.

                          It'd be nice to have his career go full circle.
                          Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

                          "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

                          Comment

                          • Vince
                            Bow for Bau
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 26017

                            #14
                            Re: Your 2008 Toronto Blue Jays!

                            Shannon is one of my favorite Jays.
                            @ me or dap me

                            http://twitter.com/52isthemike

                            Comment

                            • ryanm1058123
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 3628

                              #15
                              Re: Your 2008 Toronto Blue Jays!

                              I predict Litsch will be DFA'd or sent to the minors this year. He's a junkballer and it will be corrected this year.

                              Jannsen should start to be honest, I hate wasting relievers when they can be starters.

                              Comment

                              Working...