Your 2008 Toronto Blue Jays!

[theaub]

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And not surprisingly, we're getting shutout.

Again.

[SPTO]

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How many times have we been shutout this spring?

[theaub]

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Somehow this would only be the third. However, going into today, we have scored 12 less runs than any other team in baseball. And if everything stays the same, it'll be 18 after today. Ugly.

Also, smart money on BJ somehow making the opening day roster. Can't say I saw that coming.

[SPTO]

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Somehow this would only be the third. However, going into today, we have scored 12 less runs than any other team in baseball. And if everything stays the same, it'll be 18 after today. Ugly.

Well hopefully the Rolen in clean up is just an experiment then.

Also, smart money on BJ somehow making the opening day roster. Can't say I saw that coming.

If BJ gets injured early in the season the Jays have no one to blame but themselves. I've been hearing from various media types that the Jays would be wise to let him do extra ST in Florida for a while rather then go up north right away.

[Spear]

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I've seen a couple variations of the lineup over the past couple weeks. SPTO is probably right, its just an experiment. He also had Overbay batting seventh today?

I like the optimism from the players in the Sun and Star articles yesterday. Its good to see Halladay becoming more vocal. But consider me worried about our offense, we have been horrific this spring. Our prospects/bench players are more productive than our starters...yikes!

EDIT: From Wilner's blog today

The Blue Jays lost another one, and again the offense went missing. As I said in one of my answers in the comments section, big deal.

He goes on to give a report on BJ for today...

What is, in fact, a big deal, is that B.J. Ryan had a bad day. He threw the 6th inning, striking out Ronny Paulino looking on a fastball that had a bit of cut to it, but not too much, then allowing a line single to Jose Bautista before getting Luis Rivas on a grounder to second and having Marco Scutaro bail him out with a terrific leaping grab of a Nate McLouth liner that was headed up the middle. In all, 17 pitches, 12 strikes, nice day’s work.

But when Ryan spoke to the gathered throng after the game, he said that he didn’t feel right. He was sore, and it wasn’t the old, pre-surgery soreness that he might feel after an outing, it was something different. He didn’t seem worried, or scared, and made a point to say that he wasn’t going to be a hero or do anything stupid, though he did continue to pitch once he realized that he wasn’t feeling right.

The truth will come out in the next couple of days. Tomorrow morning, if he’s still sore, he might go get re-examined. Right now, Ryan is still scheduled to pitch on Thursday - either against the Yankees in Dunedin or at the same minor-league game that Roy Halladay will pitch so those evil Yankees don’t see him. But that very well could change.

This would appear to be the first bump in the road in what’s so far been a remarkable recovery from Tommy John surgery by the big closer. After the 1-2-3 inning against the Rays on Friday, pitching coach Brad Arnsberg said, “we’ve had nothing but steps forward. There’s been no regression, no steps backwards, so we’ll just keep our fingers crossed and keep putting him out there.” If today wasn’t the first step backwards, it absolutely wasn’t a step forward. Is it time to panic? No. Maybe this means nothing, maybe this means that Ryan gets backed up and stays down here in Florida to rehab for a while, which seems to be what a lot of you out there thought should have been done in the first place.

Link to whole blog entry: FAN590 - Blogs - Miked Up » Blog Archive » Pirates 4 - Jays 1

[theaub]

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I found this part to be interesting.

Tomorrow is the Jays’ lone off-day of the spring, and mine, too, though VP of communications Jay Stenhouse asked cryptically if we’d all be around tomorrow in case something happens (a long-term contract for Aaron Hill or Alex Rios, perhaps? Please, something bigger than Bill Murphy!). My answer was no. I’m leaving the ballpark in Bradenton in a few minutes and heading over to the other coast to spend tomorrow in Miami - family medical reasons, nothing bad. If something happens, I’ll find out about it and you can find out right here what I think about it!

[SPTO]

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Hopefully it's a long term contract for one of those guys or maybe the announcement of Reed Johnson getting traded to the Mets (that's one of the rumors)

[theaub]

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Hopefully it's a long term contract for one of those guys or maybe the announcement of Reed Johnson getting traded to the Mets (that's one of the rumors)

I'm guessing its one of two things.

1) Rios long term contract
2) Either Reed Johnson or Adam Lind going to New York for Joe Smith.

I'm leaning towards one, two wouldn't surprise me. Aaron Hill would stun me a little, although there's more precedent for him with the recent Cano deal.

[theaub]

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Mike Wilner just said on The Fan that Scott Rolen will be hitting cleanup this year.

Moving onto 2009...

[Spear]

Re: Your 2008 Toronto Blue Jays!

Mike Wilner just said on The Fan that Scott Rolen will be hitting cleanup this year.

Moving onto 2009...

Did he state his opinion on it?

[theaub]

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Did he state his opinion on it?

He called it a "big surprise" and said its done because the Jays want some speed in front of Frank Thomas.

And here I was thinking that either Alex Rios or Vernon Wells were fast.

[SPTO]

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Mike Wilner just said on The Fan that Scott Rolen will be hitting cleanup this year.

Moving onto 2009...

This makes ZERO sense!

How in the blue hell did these people come up with this decision? I could understand putting Wells at clean up but Rolen?!?

This has disaster written all over it. The fans are going to be going for blood when they see him striking out or not cashing in RISP.

[theaub]

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Scott Rolen didn't hit cleanup today! Maybe there's hope!

[SPTO]

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Well bad news folks looks like the Beej is experiencing pain on his bad arm. Luckily it's above and below where the surgery took place. He's been shut down for a bit. The good news is the debut of this Bret Cecil (I think that's his name) kid who did really well this afternoon. Seems he could have some "stuff" to him.

[harsh128]

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Looks like Reeds done. Reportdedly released late last night.