Bobhead's Sliders

[BraveTiger]

Bobhead, do you move th PCI, or leave it in the middle.... I'm looking for a new slider set. I usually use timing hitting, and thinking of trying to do zone, but don't know if I can keep up with moving the stick and swinging.

[Geronimo22]

I have the same question as well

[Bobhead]

I move the PCI. It definitely takes practice, but I don't like the idea of letting the game decide when I get a hit and when I don't.

[itbeme23]

Bobhead,

I'm definitely going to give your sliders a shot tonight after work. I was using TNK/PB's exclusively for awhile, but I'm now looking into other sets more for a new look than anything else. TNK's were good, don't get me wrong, but pitching for me was a little easy (even on HOF), and my hitting was abysmal (not often I get to use that word). I've always had trouble striking out, which I believe is part slider choice, and an even bigger part my fault. I've tried several hitting cameras (most of the catchers), but pretty much any offspeed pitch low in the zone will get me.

I'm interested in trying your sliders because of the insight that you have provided in these forums. I'm pretty confident in the fact that when you set a slider at a particular value (even if it is drastically different from other sets), there is a valid reason behind it.

The thing that kind of scares me, because of my issue with strikeouts, is Human Contact at 4. With TNK's, I was striking out between 7-10 times a game, and his was set at default (5). I recently switched over to CHD's sliders, who has his Contact slider at 4, and I've been striking out between 10-15 times a game, which is overwhelmingly frustrating!!!
My fear is that I will continue to strikeout at this horrible rate, which ends up sucking pretty much all of the fun from my life, LOL. I understand that I haven't even tried the sliders yet, so I'll just have to wait and see. But do you think that raising the Human Contact up to 5 or 6 will affect the overall value of the set as a whole?

Lastly, I had the same question about Zone Hitting. I recently switched over from Timing (on All-Star) to Zone Hitting, because Psychobulk suggested that it provided better hit variety even without moving the L-Stick. I've been doing that, and having slightly above-average results. I was planning on using the same method versus using Timing with your sliders, and I wanted to get your opinions on that.

Sorry for the long post. Sliders get me all fired up and whatnot.

[Bobhead]

Quote: Originally Posted by itbeme23

The thing that kind of scares me, because of my issue with strikeouts, is Human Contact at 4. With TNK's, I was striking out between 7-10 times a game, and his was set at default (5). I recently switched over to CHD's sliders, who has his Contact slider at 4, and I've been striking out between 10-15 times a game, which is overwhelmingly frustrating!!! My fear is that I will continue to strikeout at this horrible rate, which ends up sucking pretty much all of the fun from my life, LOL. I understand that I haven't even tried the sliders yet, so I'll just have to wait and see. But do you think that raising the Human Contact up to 5 or 6 will affect the overall value of the set as a whole?

Not at all. If you were using Timing or Analog, Contact would have a bigger effect on the game. In Zone hitting however, the PCI's location is strictly based on user input, and the only thing the Contact slider affects is your range. Feel free to increase it to your liking, nothing else will really change much.

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Lastly, I had the same question about Zone Hitting. I recently switched over from Timing (on All-Star) to Zone Hitting, because Psychobulk suggested that it provided better hit variety even without moving the L-Stick. I've been doing that, and having slightly above-average results. I was planning on using the same method versus using Timing with your sliders, and I wanted to get your opinions on that.

I'm not a big fan of that, but it certainly works. You will need fully practice using Contact Swing though, to increase your range, and to foul off more pitches. I really don't have much to offer in the way of that method, the only things that come to mind are that I'd increase Foul Frequency up some more - since I have it lowered in my set - Otherwise all that center swinging will result in a lot of pop ups and ground outs.

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Sorry for the long post. Sliders get me all fired up and whatnot.

I don't mind long posts at all. I actually prefer the thoroughness, it makes it a lot easier to understand where a poster is coming from, and how to answer their questions. It's the one-liners that really irk me

[redsfan4life]

Going to give these sliders a try, intrigued by the fielder speed, baserunner speed settings as I feel something is off with that at default. Been practicing on zone hitting and I think I'm ready to make the switch, Timing hitting is just driving me mad.

[redsfan4life]

PIT at CIN - Great American Ballpark
May 19, 2011	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	R	H	E
Pittsburgh Pirates ()	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	1	3	5	8	0
Cincinnati Reds ()	0	0	0	0	2	0	0	0	0	2	7	0
W: Ross Ohlendorf (1-0) L: Aroldis Chapman (3-1) S: Joel Hanrahan (12)

Pittsburgh Pirates
HITTERS	AB	R	H	RBI	BB	SO	HR	AVG
McCutchen	5	0	0	0	0	0	0	.256
Walker	3	1	0	0	1	0	0	.274
Doumit	4	1	2	0	0	1	0	.243
Jones	4	2	2	2	0	0	1	.253
Alvarez	3	0	1	0	1	0	0	.274
Overbay	4	0	1	2	0	0	0	.214
Tabata	3	0	0	0	1	0	0	.225
Cedeno	2	0	0	0	0	1	0	.297
Diaz	2	1	2	0	0	0	0	.303
McDonald	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	.200
Meek	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	.000
Ciriaco	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	.256
Ohlendorf	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	.000
Presley	1	0	0	0	0	1	0	.181
Hanrahan	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	.000
BATTING: 2B: Overbay 3B: Diaz HR: Jones RBI: Jones 2, Overbay 2, Ciriaco SF: Ciriaco GIDP: Overbay
BASERUNNING: SB: Tabata

Cincinnati Reds
HITTERS	AB	R	H	RBI	BB	SO	HR	AVG
Stubbs	4	0	2	0	0	1	0	.256
Heisey	3	0	0	0	1	1	0	.217
Votto	3	0	1	0	1	0	0	.220
Phillips	3	1	0	0	1	0	0	.219
Bruce	4	1	2	1	0	0	0	.234
Renteria	4	0	1	0	0	0	0	.173
Hanigan	4	0	1	1	0	2	0	.259
Janish	3	0	0	0	0	2	0	.211
Chapman	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	.000
Cordero	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	.000
Rolen	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	.221
Cueto	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	.166
Cairo	1	0	0	0	0	1	0	.178
Gomes	1	0	0	0	0	1	0	.200
BATTING: 2B: Stubbs, Bruce 2 RBI: Bruce, Hanigan GIDP: Hanigan
BASERUNNING: SB: Stubbs CS: Stubbs

Pittsburgh Pirates
PITCHERS	IP	H	R	ER	BB	SO	HR	ERA
McDonald	5.1	4	2	2	2	4	0	2.86
Meek	1.2	1	0	0	0	0	0	3.76
Ohlendorf (W, 1-0)	1.0	1	0	0	1	2	0	0.00
Hanrahan (S, 12)	1.0	1	0	0	1	2	0	5.90

Cincinnati Reds
PITCHERS	IP	H	R	ER	BB	SO	HR	ERA
Cueto	7	3	1	1	1	2	1	2.25
Chapman (L, 3-1)	1	3	4	4	2	0	0	2.42
Cordero	1	2	0	0	0	1	0	1.55

[erictred]

hey bobhead,,
I noticed you made some pretty drastic changes to your HUM pitch control (from 6 to 2) and baserunner steal frequency settings (from 8 to 1)....I'd be interested to hear your reasoning behind your changes on these.
when I get around to it I'll add your changes to my slider comparison table and post it on my thread.