Quick Count Pitch Counts

[TeixeiraFanatic]

From the 10 or so games I've played so far, I've noticed something with quick counts that really kind of irks me. I mean it has no statistical implications but in almost every game I've played the pitchers have thrown 50%, if not more, balls.

I also seem to encounter more 3 ball at bats than not.

For example in my game so far, I have Adam Wainwright pitching (one of the top control pitchers in the league). Through 5 innings, he has thrown 97 pitches(51 strikes and 46 balls). Of those 97 pitches, I've thrown 39, with a strike percentage of 79%. So I've thrown 30 strikes and 9 balls.

So with this information, it seems to me, that the game has generated 37 balls to 21 strikes for me. That seems outrageous, especially for a pitcher like Adam Wainwright.

I really like generated counts and will continue to use it but its just something that's bothered me so far.

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[PhilliesFan13]

Quote: Originally Posted by TeixeiraFanatic

From the 10 or so games I've played so far, I've noticed something with quick counts that really kind of irks me. I mean it has no statistical implications but in almost every game I've played the pitchers have thrown 50%, if not more, balls. I also seem to encounter more 3 ball at bats than not. For example in my game so far, I have Adam Wainwright pitching (one of the top control pitchers in the league). Through 5 innings, he has thrown 97 pitches(51 strikes and 46 balls). Of those 97 pitches, I've thrown 39, with a strike percentage of 79%. So I've thrown 30 strikes and 9 balls. So with this information, it seems to me, that the game has generated 37 balls to 21 strikes for me. That seems outrageous, especially for a pitcher like Adam Wainwright. I really like generated counts and will continue to use it but its just something that's bothered me so far. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

I encountered something similar with Cliff Lee. By the 5th inning he was in the 75 pitch range already.

[marteezy2]

Yeah I've seen the same thing. It's pretty frustrating because once the guy goes north of 100 pitches it gets bad real fast.

Hopefully it's something that can be tweaked by the sliders or an update.


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[nomo17k]

Those are actually typical pitch count and strike % you see in real MLB games.

[TeixeiraFanatic]

Quote: Originally Posted by nomo17k

Those are actually typical pitch count and strike % you see in real MLB games.

Is it really? I can't imagine that pitchers throw as many balls as they do strikes. From yesterday's games I've looked at on MLB.com, it seems more like 2/3 of all pitches thrown are strikes. I'm playing another game and Wacha is thru 5 innings and has thrown 100 pitches, and 50 balls. Same for their pitcher Bailey.

This link says that it is around 62% strikes and 38% balls.

http://www.efastball.com/baseball/pi...to-ball-ratio/

I think I'll just continue playing and see how it goes. I don't know it just seemed odd to me.

[nomo17k]

Quote: Originally Posted by TeixeiraFanatic

Is it really? I can't imagine that pitchers throw as many balls as they do strikes. From yesterday's games I've looked at on MLB.com, it seems more like 2/3 of all pitches thrown are strikes. I'm playing another game and Wacha is thru 5 innings and has thrown 100 pitches, and 50 balls. Same for their pitcher Bailey. This link says that it is around 62% strikes and 38% balls. http://www.efastball.com/baseball/pi...to-ball-ratio/ I think I'll just continue playing and see how it goes. I don't know it just seemed odd to me.

Yes, the overall strike % is about 60 - 63%. But it is not uncommon to see it come down in a 50 - 60% range when a pitcher(s) labors.

[TeixeiraFanatic]

Quote: Originally Posted by nomo17k

Yes, the overall strike % is about 60 - 63%. But it is not uncommon to see it come down in a 50 - 60% range when a pitcher(s) labors.

Ok that's fair enough. It's just frustrating to see pitchers like Adam Wainwright and Michael Wacha facing a bunch of 3 ball counts to lesser hitters. If this trend continues I might just switch back to regular. Plus the fact that you can't earn trophies with quick counts is kind of a bummer.

[KMRblue1027]

Quote: Originally Posted by nomo17k

Yes, the overall strike % is about 60 - 63%. But it is not uncommon to see it come down in a 50 - 60% range when a pitcher(s) labors.

It doesn't seem to take account of the quality of a pitcher though. Lee has something like a 72% strike rate the past few years.