NBA 2K16 Official TRIANGLE OFFENSE THREAD

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NBA 2K16 Official TRIANGLE OFFENSE THREAD

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Triangle Basics

The triangle offense has been used in the NBA for almost two decades, yet what actually sets this offense apart from others is rarely discussed. The triangle is unique because it is not a collection of sets, as most teams run. The triangle offense is a philosophy, a collection of fundamentals and sound principles.

First and foremost, the triangle is a "read and react" offense. There is no playbook. There are no set routes or patterns. Instead the offense runs as a sequence of options. Each new pass keys the next set of options. The players are taught these multiple options and asked to simply take the option that the defense is willing to give to the system. In this sense, the triangle is very much like a motion offense.

What sets the triangle apart from other motion offenses is that it asks its players to fill certain positions on the floor.

This particular spacing provides the triangle it's name. The classic sideline triangle is formed between:
- the man in the wing (also called the "key" position because the pass made from this position determines the next sequence of options for the offense)
- the corner
- and the post.

The other two positions are known as:
- the weakside wing (the man on the weakside)
- and defensive balance (the man above the top of the key).

 Running the Offense
The offense is able to read and react to the defense based on two offensive theories: initiating the offense against pressure at the moment of truth and lining up and reading the defense by forming the triangle along the line of deployment.

The offense is initiated by entering the ball into the wing position. Once a triangle has been formed on the strong side (ball side), and the defense is lined up along the line of deployment, the players are asked to execute whichever "Number 2 pass" the defense is willing to give up ( it's called N.2 pass because the ball handler in transition typically makes the first pass to enter the ball into the player in the wing position).

Traditionally, the priority of the N.2 pass goes as follows. There are four N.2 passes in all:

1. N.2 pass to the post
2. N.2 pass to the top (reversal)
3. N.2 pass to the weakside wing who comes across the key to receive the pass, otherwise known as the backdoor step
4. N.2 pass to the corner

Each N.2 pass keys a unique sequence of options in the offense. Players are asked to follow "the path of least resistance." Because of this read and react style of offense, no play call is needed to initiate the triangle or set up plays. Instead, players are required to think for themselves. They must consider the ball, the defense, and their teammates at all times.

 Principles of the Triangle Offense
To ensure that players would be capable of executing this freelancing style, the offense was created with fundamentals and sound principles in mind. The offense seeks to follow these seven principles of sound offense:

1. Penetration.
The offense seeks to compromise the defense by penetrating the frontline defenders. This is best accomplished through the fast break.

2. Spacing.
Proper spacing ensures that any attempt to help, trap, and recover requires defenders to travel 15 to 20 feet from player to player. When the defense commits, an offensive player should always be open.

3. Ball and player movement with a purpose.
Players must move and move the ball with a purpose. The offense should keep the defense occupied on and off the ball. Players are indoctrinated with the mantra "there are five men and one ball, so each player will only have the ball 20 percent or less of the time the team is in possession of the ball."

4. The ball handler must be able to pass to any of his four teammates at any given time.

5. Offensive rebounding and defensive balance.
On all shots taken the offense provides strong rebounding positioning and defensive balance to get back and prevent the opposition's transition opportunities.

6. Versatile positioning.
Every player should be able to fill any spot on the floor regardless of their role. All positions are interchangable.

7. Utilizes individual talents.
Tex liked to say that Michael Jordan taught him this principle. The offense should be able to utilize it's best players and put them in the best positions to score.

With these principles in mind, it's easy to see why the triangle has the positions on the floor it does. The post is featured heavily in the offense so that a player is only one dribble away from the basket. Because of this deep penetration, any attempt to double asks defenders to traverse at least 15 feet from their assignment, opening up another player in the offense. In spite of basketballs trend to keep 4 out and 1 in for a drive and kick game, the triangle asks it's weakside wing to stay within 15-20 feet of the ball to keep that player as an option for whoever has the ball. Even with the weakside wing playing inside, perimeter players have plenty of space and great angles to attack the basket. This also affords the offense better offensive rebounding opportunities by placing two players close to the basket at all times.

There are other simple principles that the coaching staff constantly preaches to the players of the triangle offense:

- "You are always in the offense."

Credit Joon Kim

Google Link: Tex Winter's sideline triangle

NBA Coaches Playbook: Techniques, Tactics, and Teaching Points

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Triangle Offense 101

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Secondary Break that was added in 2K16

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09-25-2015, 09:14 PM

Re: NBA 2K16 Official TRIANGLE OFFENSE THREAD

Has anyone seen the UCLA high post plays that DaCzar said he would be adding yet?

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09-27-2015, 12:41 AM

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Looks improved with the reads in the Triangle
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09-27-2015, 12:44 AM

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The Blind Pig is working beautifully

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09-27-2015, 04:38 AM

Re: NBA 2K16 Official TRIANGLE OFFENSE THREAD

Is anybody working a full set of plays this year... and what play is the blind pig

Sorry I'm a newb at the Triangle Offense lol
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09-27-2015, 05:33 PM

Re: NBA 2K16 Official TRIANGLE OFFENSE THREAD

Originally posted by jgreengutta

Is anybody working a full set of plays this year... and what play is the blind pig

Sorry I'm a newb at the Triangle Offense lol

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09-27-2015, 05:47 PM

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Pick & Roll Option, Fist 25 Base Tri. If you bypass the initial PNR, lots of good stuff opens up. It's beautiful.
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09-28-2015, 12:33 AM

Re: NBA 2K16 Official TRIANGLE OFFENSE THREAD

I run the triangle in the freelance offense.

I'll have your point guard on the strong side wing and my shooting guard at the top of the key. I will try to pass the ball to the post player on the strong side down on the low block.

And if I can't get it to him the power forward on the weak side with flash to the free throw line you can make a pass to him and the shooting guard will come around and try to get to the basket for a dunk and I can usually throw an alley oop to him.

This is the "bind pig".

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09-28-2015, 02:40 PM

Re: NBA 2K16 Official TRIANGLE OFFENSE THREAD

Quick question.

So i'm running with my beloved Knicks in MyGM and was trying to figure out if the triangle runs better if you put the coaching profile to run plays to 100 or 0.

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09-28-2015, 11:06 PM

Re: NBA 2K16 Official TRIANGLE OFFENSE THREAD

Originally posted by Kiyen

I run the triangle in the freelance offense.

I'll have your point guard on the strong side wing and my shooting guard at the top of the key. I will try to pass the ball to the post player on the strong side down on the low block.

And if I can't get it to him the power forward on the weak side with flash to the free throw line you can make a pass to him and the shooting guard will come around and try to get to the basket for a dunk and I can usually throw an alley oop to him.

This is the "bind pig".

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Thats actually the "backdoor step" that you described. The "blind pig" occurs when the strongside entry pass or wing dribble entry is not available. Cut 42 base tri is the blind pig and is an option in the freelance or motion cut schemes. its a pressure release so if you dont manually call it the AI wont run it unil it thinks pressure needs to be broken

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09-28-2015, 11:16 PM

Re: NBA 2K16 Official TRIANGLE OFFENSE THREAD

Originally posted by wideout1234

Quick question.

So i'm running with my beloved Knicks in MyGM and was trying to figure out if the triangle runs better if you put the coaching profile to run plays to 100 or 0.

I wouldnt touch that. The tempo is the biggest difference. If you know the offense and I'd leave everything on manual. Also, even with the knicks you must designate the triangle as your half court set using the off strategy menu.

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10-01-2015, 10:51 AM

Re: NBA 2K16 Official TRIANGLE OFFENSE THREAD

Originally posted by taildog

Thats actually the "backdoor step" that you described. The "blind pig" occurs when the strongside entry pass or wing dribble entry is not available. Cut 42 base tri is the blind pig and is an option in the freelance or motion cut schemes. its a pressure release so if you dont manually call it the AI wont run it unil it thinks pressure needs to be broken

Taildog....you're exactly right. That's why I love these forums because you learn something new all the time.

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10-01-2015, 10:55 AM

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Triangle motion is awesome. Great spacing and so many options
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10-01-2015, 09:31 PM

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So is the Playbook fine for it... No additional plays to be added???
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10-02-2015, 04:55 PM

Re: NBA 2K16 Official TRIANGLE OFFENSE THREAD

Originally posted by jgreengutta

So is the Playbook fine for it... No additional plays to be added???

I have a few. I'll post soon

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