There is nothing wrong with the CPU on-ball defense. Here are some tips....

[EarvGotti]

I love the defense this year. User on-ball, CPU on-ball, A.I. off ball.......everything. Taking this out of 2k16 would be like taking aggressive catching out of Madden 16....it would destroy the identity of the game.

I wish people would stop complaining and just take the time to learn and adjust to the game. Sometimes it won't be instantly. We need to learn patience. Here are some tips I use that are very effective if you want to ISO:

1) Setup the defender with sizeups and hesitations. Hesi's are especially good because they get the CPU leaning to a specific side.

2) Always pay attention to your defender's feet and his body momentum. If you catch a defender shifting/hopping to one side.....that is your cue to attack the other side.

3) Hold R2 during and after a crossover to explode into a drive. The explosion is the most important part of the process and it allows you to get that quick burst needed when your defender commits too much to one side.

The below videos are examples of what I am talking about. Difficulty is on Superstar and its against Paul George, a lockdown defender. Kobe is good but doesn't even have the best ball-handling compared to lots of other guys


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[ataman5]

Re: There is nothing wrong with the CPU on-ball defense. Here are some tips....

Thank you EarvGotti. That's a thread needed people should stop ranting to make the game cheesier and start paying attention to basketball basics. This game is deep all you need is practice practice and practice some more. These tips will be helpful. I hope that devs don't touch to anything as the game plays out perfectly balanced on both offense and defense this year.
Thanks to community guys Czar and Scot.


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[Sundown]

There is nothing wrong with the CPU on-ball defense. Here are some tips....

Just because you can show instances where it's possible to beat the CPU DOESN'T mean there aren't instances where the CPU defense cheats or warps. Especially when there is plenty of video that clearly show instances where there IS something wrong with CPU defense.

Fixing the issues that exist while keeping defense challenging should be the goal. That will NOT be served by denial of the existing issues.

And the desire to address clear problems should not be drowned under assertions that those who want the game to look and feel more like actual basketball just want cheese. Though this is true of some that don't like the current defense, it's not true of all. I think the implication of that across the board is somewhat unfair. And ignoring clear evidence of the problem does not serve sim play.

[LO6IX]

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Yes there is something wrong with CPU defense. Many have posted video proof already. http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/LBx6IX/video/10612061 look at my defender slide to get in front of me. This is on All-Star sim by the way. It's unrealistic and defies the new foot planting system. The warping and sliding need to go. The CPU defense would be fine if they fixed those things.

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[Gosens6]

There is nothing wrong with the CPU on-ball defense. Here are some tips....

Just because you can show instances where it's possible to beat the CPU DOESN'T mean there aren't instances where the CPU defense cheats or warps. Especially when there is plenty of video that clearly show instances where there IS something wrong with CPU defense.

Fixing the issues that exist while keeping defense challenging should be the goal. That will NOT be served by denial of the existing issues.

And the desire to address clear problems should not be drowned under assertions that those who want the game to look and feel more like actual basketball just want cheese. Though this is true of some that don't like the current defense, it's not true of all. I think the implication of that across the board is somewhat unfair. And ignoring clear evidence of the problem does not serve sim play.

THANK YOU! So sick of the stick skills and practice talk when the warping and sliding BS is evident and has been proven with video evidence.



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[Smirkin Dirk]

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I think this is as challenging as its ever been.

I still think that some bad defenders can be a bit sticky, and the riding the hip animation should be utilised more.

Watch the NBA and you'll rarely see these iso blow bys.

This is as close to basketball as a video game has ever got. If there is an open lane take it. Don;t waggle the sticks for 15 seconds.

Use screens well. Get as close to the screener as possible, dont let the defender blow it up.

If they drop back, take the jumper.

Get nothing? Go into a postup, try a quick spin.

Learn your plays.

I have not mastered the game. I still give away 4-6 possessions per game because I dont get a good shot. I play as the Mavs and I basically have no iso players. I think Williams, Parsons and Matthews all have speed/acceleration ratings in thew 60s, maybe Harris and Barea in the 70s. It's challenging but rewarding.

[Vni]

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THANK YOU! So sick of the stick skills and practice talk when the warping and sliding BS is evident and has been proven with video evidence.



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Doesn't happen all the time though. Yeah there are some instances where it happens and it needs to be cleaned up but sometimes it's also the user's fault.

[Gosens6]

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Doesn't happen all the time though. Yeah there are some instances where it happens and it needs to be cleaned up but sometimes it's also the user's fault.

We're not saying it happens all the time. We're not even complaining it's too hard. What we're saying is, it happens, it shouldn't happen.

It's unrealistic, ugly looking and just plain cheesy by the AI. I had Aaron brooks sticking to D Rose earlier like glue. But it wasn't the fact that he was playing good D, it was how it happened.

Literally shuffling and sliding his feet from side to side to warp and stay in front of me with the speed and quickness that no human being should posses. I promise you at one point he WARPED directly under a screen, "shuffled" his feet (AKA his feet doesn't hit the ground, he just glides from side to side) . I could not believe it when I saw it.

This crutch they gave the AI on defense with this sliding and warping is inexcusable. Make defense hard, I love a challenge, but do it in a way that's realistic, not in a way that reminds me I'm playing a freaking video game.


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[franzis]

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Yeah I do agree that there is something going on with the CPU on ball defense.


However I haven't played yet enough games to say it's just a matter of practice or it's straight cheese from the CPU.

[FR3SH1]

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I guess he's the only guy not having the cpu warp in front of him when the cpu should have clearly been beat.

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[The 24th Letter]

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The problem is its being presented like its happening every time....This is how we get exaggerated changes in patches.....exaggerated complaints.

100% agree sliding and warping exists in the game and if possible, I would love to see it removed.

What me and a couple of others are saying is that there is a way to minimize it. 1) sliders 2) the way you attack....I'm at the point now we're I rarely see this and I haven't touched a slider. Video evidence has been shown of that too....that doesn't just work one way...

There IS a method to the madness in the meantime until there is a possible fix....I mean we have Mike in one of the threads trying to give some advice and dudes are straight up ignoring him like "nah, just patch it all"

Crazy that at OS of all places dudes are putting their fingers in there ears to this kind of stuff....Again, fully behind seeing things like this get fixed...but I will keep giving advice to those who aren't set to let it ruin their experience in the meantime...


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[EarvGotti]

Re: There is nothing wrong with the CPU on-ball defense. Here are some tips....

Like others have said, you rarely see clean blow bys in the NBA. I will agree that at times there may be some sliding but I don't think its anything that NEEDS to be patched.

This defense encourages a diversified offense. Running screen plays, PnR, posting up. All of these are components of an offense and need to be utilized for success.

The A.I. is probably always in good position to defend you because they know what you're going to do if you do the same thing over and over.

[xCoachDx]

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I think this is as challenging as its ever been.

I still think that some bad defenders can be a bit sticky, and the riding the hip animation should be utilised more.

Watch the NBA and you'll rarely see these iso blow bys.

This is as close to basketball as a video game has ever got. If there is an open lane take it. Don;t waggle the sticks for 15 seconds.

Use screens well. Get as close to the screener as possible, dont let the defender blow it up.

If they drop back, take the jumper.

Get nothing? Go into a postup, try a quick spin.

Learn your plays.

I have not mastered the game. I still give away 4-6 possessions per game because I dont get a good shot. I play as the Mavs and I basically have no iso players. I think Williams, Parsons and Matthews all have speed/acceleration ratings in thew 60s, maybe Harris and Barea in the 70s. It's challenging but rewarding.

We rarely see PG's dribbling off people's feet in real NBA, but it happens in 2K16 all the time. Lol

But back to your point, put Robin Lopez on Kemba Walker. Tell me if Kemba doesn't get to the bucket.

We see plenty of ISO in the NBA (more than I care to see actually). The problem with 2K16 is that you can't "take what the defense gives you" like you guys want to say. There is more than enough evidence proving that. When you get ahead of the defender, the bumping and morphing animations allow them back into position.

How you guys can deny that there is an issue is mind blowing to me.

[Scofield]

Re: There is nothing wrong with the CPU on-ball defense. Here are some tips....

We're not saying it happens all the time. We're not even complaining it's too hard. What we're saying is, it happens, it shouldn't happen.

It's unrealistic, ugly looking and just plain cheesy by the AI. I had Aaron brooks sticking to D Rose earlier like glue. But it wasn't the fact that he was playing good D, it was how it happened.

Literally shuffling and sliding his feet from side to side to warp and stay in front of me with the speed and quickness that no human being should posses. I promise you at one point he WARPED directly under a screen, "shuffled" his feet (AKA his feet doesn't hit the ground, he just glides from side to side) . I could not believe it when I saw it.

This crutch they gave the AI on defense with this sliding and warping is inexcusable. Make defense hard, I love a challenge, but do it in a way that's realistic, not in a way that reminds me I'm playing a freaking video game.


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I think this needs be the baseline argument for adjusting the sliding ect. There's no good reason why this type of sensible observation should be lumped in with the nonsense that comes from the folks who just don't want to put the work in to learn the game. Those folks are easy to disprove and ignore and shouldn't be driving the conversation. Folks like Sundown ect are obviously not in that camp and shouldn't be addressed as though they are.

[Scofield]

Re: There is nothing wrong with the CPU on-ball defense. Here are some tips....

I will agree that at times there may be some sliding but I don't think its anything that NEEDS to be patched.

This just isn't helpful. There is no "may" the video that's been posted is exceptionally clear. And like has been said previously, obviously D in this game shouldn't be nerfed to fix it. It's pretty good. But if we can have this type of thing contained more than it is that would make an already good defensive system great.