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EnemySkillz · 01-09-2004, 07:01 PM

Tony Sands played for Kansas, but I get your point.

twharry · 01-10-2004, 04:41 PM

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badpoet said:
I missed the part where you said you were playing Toledo until just now. You have a good running back in a weaker conference, going against a versitile running back in a fairly strong conference. There's no contest. The SC running back should get the Heisman if he continues his strong play, in a strong conference. If they are a passing team he will have also accrued passing yardage, adding to his versility and worth to the team.

Also, if I remember correctly, Tony (?) Sands had fabulous numbers for a Iowa State team back in the early/mid 90's and wasn't seriously considered for the award because of the prestige of the program and the conference they reside in. Granted, I assume that Toledo is somehow a national powerhouse given your previous posts, but I wholeheartedly doubt the rest of the conference is that strong.

I am in the Big Ten. Thus, your whole argument is moot.

CNLJ1981 · 01-11-2004, 04:24 AM

You should also consider receptions...how many does the CPU player have vs. your HB. That could play a large part in the voting.

badpoet · 01-12-2004, 11:45 AM

I was thinking of Troy Davis, by the way. He finished 2nd in the Heisman voting to Danny Wuerffel, even though he had a stellar season (Wuerffel did as well, but he played for an elite team).

hobbes4 · 01-12-2004, 12:02 PM

and amazingly were both drafted by Ditka nd the Saints... Has 1-2 in heisman been drafted on same team in your dynasty?

badpoet · 01-12-2004, 12:48 PM

Honestly, I don't play Madden and I usually am looking more at whom I'm recruiting than where my players went. I'll be a little sad when my all-purpose back/kick returner goes pro, but I doubt he'll be drafted (don't feel the need to make a bunch of 90's overall rated players). I'm also only in the third year of this dynasty.

PooterDawg88 · 01-13-2004, 04:57 PM

The Heisman voting is crap. There are always 5 QBs in the Heisman balloting. I've had a QB throw for over 5000 yards and 60 touchdowns and not win the Heisman before. And yes, if a runningback or even a wide receiver returns kicks, then he gets a huge boost in the Heisman running. I've seen a running back that also returns kicks with only 1500 yards rushing win the Heisman over some guy with 2300 yards rushing and more TDs.

The Heisman is crap. QBs should actually stand a chance. Same with WRs. Kick returns should not count that much.

twharry · 01-13-2004, 10:35 PM

Suddenly, the guy just stopped leading and Cecil Campbell took over. It was right around the time Campbell set the school record for rushing yards and tied the NCAA record for rushing TDs in a season.

He should win it now. Interestingly enough, the two prior attempts I made at creating Cecil are 3rd and 4th in the Heisman voting right now.

01-09-2004, 07:01 PM	#17
EnemySkillz Rookie OVR: 0 Join Date: Jul 2003	Re: WTF??? Tony Sands played for Kansas, but I get your point.

01-10-2004, 04:41 PM	#18
twharry Banned OVR: 2 Join Date: Dec 2003	Re: WTF??? Quote: *badpoet said:* I missed the part where you said you were playing Toledo until just now. You have a good running back in a weaker conference, going against a versitile running back in a fairly strong conference. There's no contest. The SC running back should get the Heisman if he continues his strong play, in a strong conference. If they are a passing team he will have also accrued passing yardage, adding to his versility and worth to the team. Also, if I remember correctly, Tony (?) Sands had fabulous numbers for a Iowa State team back in the early/mid 90's and wasn't seriously considered for the award because of the prestige of the program and the conference they reside in. Granted, I assume that Toledo is somehow a national powerhouse given your previous posts, but I wholeheartedly doubt the rest of the conference is that strong. I am in the Big Ten. Thus, your whole argument is moot.

01-11-2004, 04:24 AM	#19
CNLJ1981 Pro OVR: 6 Join Date: Mar 2003	Re: WTF??? You should also consider receptions...how many does the CPU player have vs. your HB. That could play a large part in the voting.

01-12-2004, 11:45 AM	#20
badpoet Rookie OVR: 5 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Minneapolis, MN (CST)	Re: WTF??? I was thinking of Troy Davis, by the way. He finished 2nd in the Heisman voting to Danny Wuerffel, even though he had a stellar season (Wuerffel did as well, but he played for an elite team).

01-12-2004, 12:02 PM	#21
hobbes4 Rookie OVR: 0 Join Date: Jul 2003	Re: WTF??? and amazingly were both drafted by Ditka nd the Saints... Has 1-2 in heisman been drafted on same team in your dynasty?

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01-12-2004, 12:48 PM	#22
badpoet Rookie OVR: 5 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Minneapolis, MN (CST)	Re: WTF??? Honestly, I don't play Madden and I usually am looking more at whom I'm recruiting than where my players went. I'll be a little sad when my all-purpose back/kick returner goes pro, but I doubt he'll be drafted (don't feel the need to make a bunch of 90's overall rated players). I'm also only in the third year of this dynasty.

01-13-2004, 04:57 PM	#23
PooterDawg88 Rookie OVR: 1 Join Date: Jan 2004	Re: WTF??? The Heisman voting is crap. There are always 5 QBs in the Heisman balloting. I've had a QB throw for over 5000 yards and 60 touchdowns and not win the Heisman before. And yes, if a runningback or even a wide receiver returns kicks, then he gets a huge boost in the Heisman running. I've seen a running back that also returns kicks with only 1500 yards rushing win the Heisman over some guy with 2300 yards rushing and more TDs. The Heisman is crap. QBs should actually stand a chance. Same with WRs. Kick returns should not count that much.

01-13-2004, 10:35 PM	#24
twharry Banned OVR: 2 Join Date: Dec 2003	Re: WTF??? Suddenly, the guy just stopped leading and Cecil Campbell took over. It was right around the time Campbell set the school record for rushing yards and tied the NCAA record for rushing TDs in a season. He should win it now. Interestingly enough, the two prior attempts I made at creating Cecil are 3rd and 4th in the Heisman voting right now.

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